Agree; even though PSU is putting out national champs at 174 and 184, both matches should be closely contested. Martin of tOSU at 184 is always dangerous, and is said to be improved this year.
Will be a great match if everyone wrestles. I'm guessing for us no worse than 5-5 and with a bonus point advantage Penn State keeps the win streak going. Lee win at 141 would be a big plus. I'd give them 125, 133, and heavyweight and PSU 149, 157, 165. The other 4 could go either way but I'd never pick against Bo or Hall especially at home......Penn State 20 Ohio State 19
Nobody(besides PSU obviously) had a team last year that comes close to Ohio State this year though.
A reasonable point, but perhaps tongue in cheek? Look at the thread titles overall on this page:
Pletcher hugely overrated. Even if Keener just scores 2-3 points, Pletcher isn’t getting 17+.I hope not - because, even as solid as those guys are, that will be incredibly unlikely (5 champs).
Long way until NCAAs.... but just some off the top of the head "could be"s (IMO)
125 OSU outpoints PSU by 25 (although Tomasello's last match made it look like he could get knocked off again at nationals. How hard will Penn Stater's be rooting for Suriano? Keeping Tom asello from the top spot would be huge)
OSU up 25
133 OSU gains another 15 points (not sure if PSU will even get a guy to nationals)
OSU up 40
141 Critical weight. If Lee keeps wrestling like this, could project to a ~10 point pick up for PSU.
OSU up 30
149 Hard to imagine Zain losing, and KeShawn Hayes seems very "up and down". Could be a gain of 5-6 points for PSU....or a gain of 20 or more. I'll go with a 15 point PSU edge.
OSU up 15
157 Jordan is tough (though I think he just lost to Kemmerer, who will likely be Nolf's toughest competition). If Nolf keeps rolling, a 10-15 point pick up for PSU.
OSU up 5
165 Would be really nice to see Vincenzo beat IMar again. I'll hedge my bets a little and say a 15 point pick up for PSU
PSU up 10
174 Outstanding wrestlers for both squads - could very well meet head to head at some point in the champions bracket. I'll give Hall the nod, PSU gains 5 points.
PSU up 15
184 Martin is tough, but Nickal is better. Scary weight - with Nickal's proclivity to wrestle on the edge of chaos. But I'll go PSU by 5 points.
PSU up 20
197 and Heavy Its all about how close the PSU guys can stay to Moore and Snyder (who are beasts). If Rasheed and Nevills can each get to the "middle of the podium" (4-5-6 ish) they can limit OSU's advantage at each weight - - - but that is a tough task.
Heart says Rasheed and Nevills keep it close enough, Head says OSU puts up big numbers at 197 and Heavy and pulls out a close win.
Either way, every point, every match is going to be huge.
Yes, I think Norm was a little pessimistic with 125 and 133.
Given my professional background - it is critical to find every potential obstacle, and address it, in order to stay alive (or, now, to stay "well").....
so pessimism, as you call it (though I refer to it as "cynical optimism") is a natural state of being.
Obviously - lots and lots of variables..... but there is a reason INTERMAT (and others) have OSU as the favorite at nationals, and the #1 ranked tourney team (and why some are talking about the possibility of 10 AAs in the OSU lineup).
There are also reasons why PSU has won 6 of the last 7 titles - and has 5 returning champs on the roster. And those reasons are compelling as well.
Put it all together, and it could be one of the most intense two-team races in NCAA history (or not
Given my professional background - it is critical to find every potential obstacle, and address it, in order to stay alive (or, now, to stay "well").....
so pessimism, as you call it (though I refer to it as "cynical optimism") is a natural state of being.
Obviously - lots and lots of variables..... but there is a reason INTERMAT (and others) have OSU as the favorite at nationals, and the #1 ranked tourney team (and why some are talking about the possibility of 10 AAs in the OSU lineup).
There are also reasons why PSU has won 6 of the last 7 titles - and has 5 returning champs on the roster. And those reasons are compelling as well.
Put it all together, and it could be one of the most intense two-team races in NCAA history (or not
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