So...no talk of the Oregon players hospitalized after a workout?

[Obliviax]

Willie Taggart, hired from S. Florida, had some of his first workouts and at least three guys got admitted to the hospital. Several people, including some pros, speaking out and wondering where the heck the NCAA is in providing guidelines to protect players.

SIAP

 

[ChiTownLion]

 

[ram2020]

I played a sport at the D1 level. Very common for new coaches to come into programs and "set the tone." It is highly archaic and unnecessary, but it is meant to signal to the players that there is a new Sheriff in town and it establishes the pecking order, immediately. Very old school.

 

[Colorado Man]

What type of supervised workouts are allowed now? Saw supervised workouts being conducted on the Rutger's board.

 

[Diego Badman]

See Iowa football early 2011. Rhabdomyolysis.
I think that when Iowa experienced it, they did not know what it was.
It puts a big strain on the kidneys.

 

[BobPSU92]

Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.

 

[LafayetteBear]

This story (like the recruiting fiasco involving Randy Edsall), is getting a lot of attention. Not good for Willie Taggart. Pushups and up-downs for a solid hour. Ouch.

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/01/oregon_ducks_workouts_hospital.html

 

[Nitt1300]

Chip Kelly is available

 

[demlion]

Willie Taggart, hired from S. Florida, had some of his first workouts and at least three guys got admitted to the hospital. Several people, including some pros, speaking out and wondering where the heck the NCAA is in providing guidelines to protect players.

SIAP

Where is the NCAA in protecting MSU female athletes sexually abused by the team doctor?

 

[Obliviax]

Where is the NCAA in protecting MSU female athletes sexually abused by the team doctor?

 

[Nitt1300]

seriously, this sounds like early Bear Bryant at A&M- coaches are supposed to know better today

 

[LafayetteBear]

Well, hard workouts can have some pretty bad, if unintended, consequences.

Cal had a football player DIE during offseason workouts a couple of years ago. The kid (Ted Agu) had sickle cell trait, and the workout was fairly rugged, but he apparently went very quickly from being out of breath and flagging to collapsing. Then being transported to the hospital and dying. It became a rather large black mark on Sonny Dykes and the Cal football program. (Just what we needed.)

I don't know what happened in this case beyond what I read in the Oregon Live report that I linked. I don't think any of these players had sickle cell trait or some other dangerous condition that needed to be watched during conditioning. But the article suggests that someone with medical training needs to be overseeing their conditioning program, if that is not already the case.

Stuff like this can get someone fired pretty quick. Maybe even prosecuted if the consequences are dire enough.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

More importantly, where is the nurturing?

 

[medixman]

I can't imagine what our country will be like in 2037???

 

[PSU Mike]

Willie Taggart, hired from S. Florida, had some of his first workouts and at least three guys got admitted to the hospital. Several people, including some pros, speaking out and wondering where the heck the NCAA is in providing guidelines to protect players.

SIAP

 

[PSU_Nut]

What type of supervised workouts are allowed now? Saw supervised workouts being conducted on the Rutger's board.

just strength, speed and conditioning type of work outs. No football drills are allowed.

Football—Out-Of-Season
Student-athletes and members of the coaching staff shall not engage in countable athleti- cally related activities outside the playing season, except for the following:
Conditioning Activities—Conditioning drills per Bylaw 17.1.5.2 that may simulate game activities are permissible, provided no offensive or defensive alignments are set up and no equipment related to the sport is used.
Football Spring Practice
In the sport of football, it is permissible for the team to practice in the spring season, pro- vided the following conditions apply:
* The spring practice time period will include 15 postseason practices (including in- trasquad scrimmages) and the spring game. 

* If ONLY conditioning activities or review of game film occur on a given day, that day does not count as one of its 15 designated days. 

* All spring practices must occur within a period of 29 consecutive calendar days. 

* Only 12 of the 15 may involve contact, and such contact shall not occur before the third 
practice session. 

* The only equipment permitted during the non-contact practice sessions are helmets. 

* Of the 12 contact sessions, 8 sessions may involve tackling, and no more than 3 of the 8 tackling sessions may be devoted primarily to 11 on11 scrimmages. 

* Tackling shall be prohibited in 4 of the 12 contact sessions. 

* A spring game shall be counted as one of the three sessions that can be devoted primarily to 11 on 11 scrimmages. 

* The in season countable athletically related activity requirements will be in effect dur- ing the designated spring practice time period.
* No more than 4 hours per day of countable athletically related activity.
* No more than 20 hours per week of countable athletically related activity

 

[Nitt1300]

Oregon began offseason workouts on Jan. 10. (Getty)

Oregon has suspended strength coach Irele Oderinde for a month without pay after three players were hospitalized following offseason conditioning workouts.

The Oregonian reported Monday night that offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick were in fair condition following the commencement of winter workouts.

According to the school, players began workouts on Jan. 10. On Jan. 12, the third day of workouts, a player “complained of muscle soreness and displayed other symptoms of potential exercise-related injury.” Two other players were then found to have similar symptoms.

Poutasi’s mother told the Oregonian that her son had complained of extreme soreness and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, which can be caused by excessively intense workouts. When someone is suffering from rhabdo, a protein, myoglobin, is released into the bloodstream and can severely damage the kidneys.

New Oregon head coach Willie Taggart, hired to replace Mark Helfrich in December, issued an apology in the school’s statement announcing Oderinde’s suspension.

“I have visited with the three young men involved in the incidents in the past few days and I have been in constant contact with their families, offering my sincere apologies,” Taggart said in the statement. “As the head football coach I hold myself responsible for all of our football-related activities and the safety of our students must come first. I have addressed the issue with our strength and conditioning staff and I fully support the actions taken today by the university. I want to thank our medical staff and doctors for caring for all of our young men and I want to apologize to the university, our students alumni and fans.”

In addition to suspending Oderinde, the school has also shifted oversight of the football strength and conditioning program from Taggart to the school’s director of performance and sports science. It’s an appropriate reaction to the hospitalization of three players and it’s imperative to note rhabdomyolysis — a potentially fatal affliction in severe cases — is not and should never be a normal occurrence as the result of hard workouts.

Oderinde came to Oregon with Taggart from South Florida. Before spending three years at South Florida, he was the strength coach at West Virginia for a season.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/o...ing-hospitalization-of-players-025951467.html

 

[demlion]

Oregon began offseason workouts on Jan. 10. (Getty)

Oregon has suspended strength coach Irele Oderinde for a month without pay after three players were hospitalized following offseason conditioning workouts.

The Oregonian reported Monday night that offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick were in fair condition following the commencement of winter workouts.

According to the school, players began workouts on Jan. 10. On Jan. 12, the third day of workouts, a player “complained of muscle soreness and displayed other symptoms of potential exercise-related injury.” Two other players were then found to have similar symptoms.

Poutasi’s mother told the Oregonian that her son had complained of extreme soreness and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, which can be caused by excessively intense workouts. When someone is suffering from rhabdo, a protein, myoglobin, is released into the bloodstream and can severely damage the kidneys.

New Oregon head coach Willie Taggart, hired to replace Mark Helfrich in December, issued an apology in the school’s statement announcing Oderinde’s suspension.

“I have visited with the three young men involved in the incidents in the past few days and I have been in constant contact with their families, offering my sincere apologies,” Taggart said in the statement. “As the head football coach I hold myself responsible for all of our football-related activities and the safety of our students must come first. I have addressed the issue with our strength and conditioning staff and I fully support the actions taken today by the university. I want to thank our medical staff and doctors for caring for all of our young men and I want to apologize to the university, our students alumni and fans.”

In addition to suspending Oderinde, the school has also shifted oversight of the football strength and conditioning program from Taggart to the school’s director of performance and sports science. It’s an appropriate reaction to the hospitalization of three players and it’s imperative to note rhabdomyolysis — a potentially fatal affliction in severe cases — is not and should never be a normal occurrence as the result of hard workouts.

Oderinde came to Oregon with Taggart from South Florida. Before spending three years at South Florida, he was the strength coach at West Virginia for a season.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/o...ing-hospitalization-of-players-025951467.html

I thought I read that the players were admitted and hospitalized for a number of DAYS as a result of the workouts. Is that right?

 

[Nitt1300]

I thought I read that the players were admitted and hospitalized for a number of DAYS as a result of the workouts. Is that right?

I haven't seen info on how long they were hospitalized

 

[demlion]

I haven't seen info on how long they were hospitalized

Story from the Oregonian on Monday:
At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/01/oregon_ducks_workouts_hospital.html

So we're not talking about boo-boo on your arm, treated and released. We are talking several days in the hospital. Yikes.

 

[Obliviax]

Story from the Oregonian on Monday:
At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2017/01/oregon_ducks_workouts_hospital.html

So we're not talking about boo-boo on your arm, treated and released. We are talking several days in the hospital. Yikes.

They suspended their strength and conditioning coach for a month, without pay, yesterday. He was brought to O with the new coach from S FL.

 

[Nitt1300]

I can't imagine what our country will be like in 2037???

meaning what?

 

[Woodpecker]

Dock that lineman a day's scholarship for laying down on the job

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

Well, hard workouts can have some pretty bad, if unintended, consequences.

Cal had a football player DIE during offseason workouts a couple of years ago. The kid (Ted Agu) had sickle cell trait, and the workout was fairly rugged, but he apparently went very quickly from being out of breath and flagging to collapsing. Then being transported to the hospital and dying. It became a rather large black mark on Sonny Dykes and the Cal football program. (Just what we needed.)

I don't know what happened in this case beyond what I read in the Oregon Live report that I linked. I don't think any of these players had sickle cell trait or some other dangerous condition that needed to be watched during conditioning. But the article suggests that someone with medical training needs to be overseeing their conditioning program, if that is not already the case.

Stuff like this can get someone fired pretty quick. Maybe even prosecuted if the consequences are dire enough.

But practicing in 60 mph winds leads to no repercussions at Notre Dame. Go figure.