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So where do you think Suriano fits in?

I realize this doesn't mean much now, but a very impressive super 32 by Suriano in 2012 over some big names in wrestling now.

106 Lbs: 1st: Nick Suriano NJ 2nd: Spencer Lee PA 3rd: Luke Pletcher PA 4th: Jose Rodriguez OH 5th: Brandon Olsen VA 6th: Eli Stickley OH 7th: Chad Red IN 8th: Hayden Lee IN
 
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I realize this doesn't mean much now, but a very impressive super 32 by Suriano in 2012 over some big names in wrestling now.

106 Lbs: 1st: Nick Suriano NJ 2nd: Spencer Lee PA 3rd: Luke Pletcher PA 4th: Jose Rodriguez OH 5th: Brandon Olsen VA 6th: Eli Stickley OH 7th: Chad Red IN 8th: Hayden Lee IN
 
That was a great bracket and that bracket was almost the same the following year just up a weight class. Nick once again did a great job in what I consider the toughest folkstyle tournament in the nation.

Cut from FLO archives:

113 Final: #2-Fr. Spencer Lee (PA) dec. #1-So. Nick Suriano (NJ), 3-1, OT
Finals Notes: In a rematch from the 106 finals from last year, there was a a lot of hand fighting as both tried to pick their opening. That didn’t come until overtime when Lee was able to find and angle and score on a low shot.

Placings:
1. #2-Spencer Lee, PA
2. #1-Nick Suriano, NJ
3. #6-Jose Rodriguez, OH
4. #7-Kyle Norstrem, FL
5. Dustin Warner, OH
6. #18-Christian Moody, OK
7. HM-Eli Stickley, OH
8. #8-Eric Hong, PA
 
125??? Bael will probably do something stupid like plug him in at HWT next year.....wouldn't surprise me because at the end of the day, it is quite clear that Bael can't coach. Carry on....
 
Fine with me, good luck at 33 then next year against Clark, Richards, Cortez, and everyone else, with whoever you guys want to throw out there, including your incoming kid. You'll need it.
You say this as if a sure fire All American is left waiting in the wings with NaTo staying put... And would be unleashed if Tomasello moved up??

Since there isn't, what you're implying is pretty redundant considering there would be just as much uncertainty, if not more, left behind at 125 with NaTo hypothetically bumping up to 133 vs the 133 weight class opening that as you said....I'll "need luck with". ( if Nate stays put).

So what's your point?? I also don't understand your logic in saying without question 'that kid OSU is bringing in at 133' will struggle and need all the luck as you surmised , but somehow , the top names in the class you threw out included Cortez!??

Your crystal ball has Cortez as a lock to produce, but foresees an inevitable struggle seemingly for what OSU would be left to produce at 133 without Nate!?

That kid OSU is bringing in (Luke Pletcher) is a top 10 recruit in the country, not some lineup filler. Cortez has the EXACT same amount of wins as Pletcher.. ZERO. For you to dismiss Pletcher's potential contribution and assume your own is simply comical.

I'm assuming your basing this on Cortez beating Conoway, but automatically assume a top 10 recruit in the country and top at his weight couldn't feasibly do the same in beating a top 6 guy at his weight!?

NO ONE is a sure thing, everyone knows this. But I can promise you this, Luke Pletcher has as good a shot as anyone in doing so. Cortez hasn't proven anything, yet.

Arguing what he did unattached under the dim lights is foolish. Cortez's name belongs just as far as Pletcher's does when mentioning the top kids at 133 next year, nowhere near, and that will remain the same until one or both prove it on the mat....when it counts.
 
You say this as if a sure fire All American is left waiting in the wings with NaTo staying put... And would be unleashed if Tomasello moved up??

Since there isn't, what you're implying is pretty redundant considering there would be just as much uncertainty, if not more, left behind at 125 with NaTo hypothetically bumping up to 133 vs the 133 weight class opening that as you said....I'll "need luck with". ( if Nate stays put).

So what's your point?? I also don't understand your logic in saying without question 'that kid OSU is bringing in at 133' will struggle and need all the luck as you surmised , but somehow , the top names in the class you threw out included Cortez!??

Your crystal ball has Cortez as a lock to produce, but foresees an inevitable struggle seemingly for what OSU would be left to produce at 133 without Nate!?

That kid OSU is bringing in (Luke Pletcher) is a top 10 recruit in the country, not some lineup filler. Cortez has the EXACT same amount of wins as Pletcher.. ZERO. For you to dismiss Pletcher's potential contribution and assume your own is simply comical.

I'm assuming your basing this on Cortez beating Conoway, but automatically assume a top 10 recruit in the country and top at his weight couldn't feasibly do the same in beating a top 6 guy at his weight!?

NO ONE is a sure thing, everyone knows this. But I can promise you this, Luke Pletcher has as good a shot as anyone in doing so. Cortez hasn't proven anything, yet.

Arguing what he did unattached under the dim lights is foolish. Cortez's name belongs just as far as Pletcher's does when mentioning the top kids at 133 next year, nowhere near, and that will remain the same until one or both prove it on the mat....when it counts.
I guarantee you Cortez will be higher ranked than Pletcher.
 
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Cortez may not have proven anything yet, but he was a top 12 recruit and has 2 years (1 at Penn State) in a college wrestling room. He also has 3 wins versus NCAA qualifiers one of which is a two time All American. I think that gives him a clear edge over Pletcher going in.

I also think Tomo stays 125 unless he has weight issues.
 
Anyone know why Cortez left? He had a great coach in Mark Perry and lost a year of eligibility, plus he must have paying in-state tuition at Illinois
 
Anyone know why Cortez left? He had a great coach in Mark Perry and lost a year of eligibility, plus he must have paying in-state tuition at Illinois

Dunno for sure. The common reason thrown out there is that Cortez could no longer make 125 and wanted to go at 133, but Zane Richards was there, leaving Cortez without a weight. I suspect there was more to it than that, but who knows?
 
Cortez may not have proven anything yet, but he was a top 12 recruit and has 2 years (1 at Penn State) in a college wrestling room. He also has 3 wins versus NCAA qualifiers one of which is a two time All American. I think that gives him a clear edge over Pletcher going in.

I also think Tomo stays 125 unless he has weight issues.

He is moving up to 133. Gassed badly against Gilman in the final, and had trouble holding the weight all year long.
 
People may have 21 Guns on ignore but I'm assuming he brought it back because he was 100% correct on Suriano (so was I I am happy to say) and also 100% correct on Nato

I realize 21 and Spyker may rub some people the wrong way but personally I like positive fans that wear their hearts on there sleeves.
 
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People may have 21 Guns on ignore but I'm assuming he brought it back because he was 100% correct on Suriano (so was I I am happy to say) and also 100% correct on Nato

I realize 21 and Spyker may rub some people the wrong way but personally I like positive fans that wear their hearts on there sleeves.

Thank you amigo. Well said.
 
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Somebody you guys have on ignore posted.
Notice how Diggerplop seldom posts anymore, other than agreeing with certain posters, and just hits the "like" button?

KWoodHawk outed him over on HR, tore him a new one. It was beautiful.
 
People may have 21 Guns on ignore but I'm assuming he brought it back because he was 100% correct on Suriano (so was I I am happy to say) and also 100% correct on Nato

I realize 21 and Spyker may rub some people the wrong way but personally I like positive fans that wear their hearts on there sleeves.
So, he revived a year-old thread to pat himself on the back? Well, that's about perfect.
 
"Haters gonna hate"
- 21Duds

<eyeroll>

Hey lame, remember this?

  1. Just lurk and read........Oh please.
  2. You've spent plenty of time this past week on several different threads being a snarky, obnoxious, mean spirited antagonist. On the thread "Only 3 teams make up next years pre-season #1" you have 8 posts directed at 21 guns where you are making garbage posts with absolutely no purpose other than harrasment. You did the same in the thread "Why are so many PSU fans posting negatively on this forum?" You couldn't keep your mouth shut. Continually made harrassing posts that had nothing of value to anyone here except your ego. You were just as guilty as 21 guns for the crap that went on. And acutally you were more annoying because you had to have the last word and continued the inane drivel between the two of you.
  3. I have no one on ignore. I read what anyone posts. I have never reported anyone's posts. Several nights ago I clicked on the report icon and was going to complain about you and 21 guns and then decided agains it. Next morning 21 is gone anyway. I have re-evaluated my position and will not hesitate to report you or anyone else who tries to make this board their personal garbage dump in the future. Posting on a board is a privilege, not a right. Treat the people that read here with respect or be gone.
  4. Maybe you will be better behaved since he's gone......but I'm suprised that you're not gone too. Actually I'm rather disappointed you're not gone. You and others that post crap like you did don't deserve to be allowed to stay here.
  5. Oh yeah......my wife says to tell you "have a nice day"

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So, he revived a year-old thread to pat himself on the back? Well, that's about perfect.

I can't speak for him but I enjoy when people bring up old threads. See what people were saying about different wrestlers, predictions, etc.

Then go back and revisit and see who was right, wrong, etc. isn't this what message boards are for?

If I don't like what someone is posting I move on and don't read any further. But it's not my place to tell anyone else here what's interesting to others.

And I'm not here to kiss 21's ass. But I feel a lot of times people are piling on just to pile on. Personally I hated when he kept saying we can't win without 8 scoring wrestlers. I thought it was overkill and I didn't agree. That being said I'm not gonna rip him for having an opinion.

Only time I'm going to rip someone here is if it's an opppsosing teams fan trolling. Not going to attack a like minded fan of the team we all love
 
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I can't speak for him but I enjoy when people bring up old threads. See what people were saying about different wrestlers, predictions, etc.

Then go back and revisit and see who was right, wrong, etc. isn't this what message boards are for?

If I don't like what someone is posting I move on and don't read any further. But it's not my place to tell anyone else here what's interesting to others.
Wouldn't you be able to go back and re-read old threads all by yourself?

And, actually I've never seen someone bring a year-old thread back to life, just to feel better about themselves. But, I guess some people need that.
 
Wouldn't you be able to go back and re-read old threads all by yourself?

And, actually I've never seen someone bring a year-old thread back to life, just to feel better about themselves. But, I guess some people need that.

No. I don't go back and read year old threads. I read what's on the 1st page. So if people didn't do it, I wouldn't have found it
 
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So, you like it so much you don't do it. Okay. Got it.

What don't you understand? I come to forum on my phone usually. I see what's new on first page and log off. If there is something new I read it. Very simple actually.

I don't go looking for old threads but when they make the first page I read them
 
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People may have 21 Guns on ignore but I'm assuming he brought it back because he was 100% correct on Suriano (so was I I am happy to say) and also 100% correct on Nato

I realize 21 and Spyker may rub some people the wrong way but personally I like positive fans that wear their hearts on there sleeves.

21 is positive? You mean the guy ranting about 8 scoring wrestlers on 30+ threads? The same guy who said 4th place was going to be a good result? The same guy who went to HR and told them that Iowa was going to finish ahead of Penn State? He deserved the "piling on" he got.

As for Spyker, he is indeed always positive and never jumped ship. (His problem is credibility, but I'll give him a pass on that compared to the above.)
 
21 is positive? You mean the guy ranting about 8 scoring wrestlers on 30+ threads? The same guy who said 4th place was going to be a good result? The same guy who went to HR and told them that Iowa was going to finish ahead of Penn State? He deserved the "piling on" he got.

As for Spyker, he is indeed always positive and never jumped ship. (His problem is credibility, but I'll give him a pass on that compared to the above.)

The next actual post you make will be your first: All I ever see from you, is humping on other posts and Piling on. It's no surprise you're on here defending "piling on", since that's ALL you ever do. I doubt you know the first thing about the actual sport of wrestling.
 
People may have 21 Guns on ignore but I'm assuming he brought it back because he was 100% correct on Suriano (so was I I am happy to say) and also 100% correct on Nato

I realize 21 and Spyker may rub some people the wrong way but personally I like positive fans that wear their hearts on there sleeves.

So, he revived a year-old thread to pat himself on the back? Well, that's about perfect.

Nothing wrong with patting yourself on the back when you were right!
 
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And the piling on continues SMH.....I don't get it and probably never will. We are all here because we all love PSU wrestling..
 
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