Spanier has a book coming out in 09/22

[PSU2UNC]

Doesn't matter. Jerry remains a convict regardless.

So justice and truth don't matter? The only thing that matters to you is what a jury of people who just want to go home for the weekend thinks?

This is the argument some makes ("He's guilty because he is guilty") when they don't actually have any argument to make.

 

[WHCANole]

So justice and truth don't matter? The only thing that matters to you is what a jury of people who just want to go home for the weekend thinks?

This is the argument some makes ("He's guilty because he is guilty") when they don't actually have any argument to make.

Justice and truth do matter and in this case was done correctly. The argument you make must be proven and you haven’t done that.

 

[crm114psu]

So justice and truth don't matter? The only thing that matters to you is what a jury of people who just want to go home for the weekend thinks?

This is the argument some makes ("He's guilty because he is guilty") when they don't actually have any argument to make.

No need to argue - courts got it right. Up to the other side to prove they didn't. They don't seem to be too credible when it comes to convincing those that matter.

 

[WHCANole]

No need to argue - courts got it right. Up to the other side to prove they didn't. They don't seem to be too credible when it comes to convincing those that matter.

Right you are. Like those who believe the CIA killed JFK. Fringe folk believe it but no one else will.

 

[PSU2UNC]

No need to argue - courts got it right. Up to the other side to prove they didn't. They don't seem to be too credible when it comes to convincing those that matter.

So your position is "the courts got it right because the courts got it right"? Socrates is floored by your level of discourse.

If there is no need to argue, stop posting on these threads. Seems pretty simple.

 

[marshall23]

BS. You need to get out more. Lol you really are a boob https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/protect-yourself/charitable-giving/

 

[marshall23]

All eight who testified were credible

How many have extensive criminal records?

 

[crm114psu]

So your position is "the courts got it right because the courts got it right"? Socrates is floored by your level of discourse.

If there is no need to argue, stop posting on these threads. Seems pretty simple.

Why would I stop posting on these threads? You "free Jerry" folk provide endless dependable entertainment. 10 more years!

 

[PSU2UNC]

Why would I stop posting on these threads? You "free Jerry" folk provide endless dependable entertainment. 10 more years!

You are a weird, sad man if you think people being wrongly convicted of crimes is "dependable entertainment."

 

[crm114psu]

Right you are. Like those who believe the CIA killed JFK. Fringe folk believe it but no one else will.

"My name, I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something. And now it's gone."

Joe Paterno upon being presented with the bill he paid for "409"

 

[crm114psu]

You are a weird, sad man if you think people being wrongly convicted of crimes is "dependable entertainment."

The tears you cultist cry are treasures beyond value.

 

[PSU2UNC]

How many have extensive criminal records?

And how many testified to things that, while on their own could seem plausible, when considered with all of the other allegations, cannot possibly have happened (e.g. overlapping "schedules", Jerry supposedly committing crimes when he was clearly at practice or out recruiting, etc)?

How many were mislead by police into giving false statements? (we know of at least one; hard to believe that was an isolate incident -- just the only one caught on tape)

How many initially said nothing occurred and then higher Andrew Shubin who convinced them otherwise?

 

[PSU2UNC]

The tears you cultist cry are treasures beyond value.

I've shed zero tears except of joy when you get intellectually abused by my fellow board mates.

 

[crm114psu]

I've shed zero tears except of joy when you get intellectually abused by my fellow board mates.

Cool, we are all happy then.

 

[marshall23]

CSS and Paterno all knew Jerry had molested a child but didn’t want it made public. So, they told Jerry to knock it off (at least on their property) and gambled that if he did it again it would not be tied to them. Had it become known in 2001 then the public would have learned of 1998 and they all would have been fired.

1. No forensic evidence
2. one contemporaneous complaint. Investigated by police and CYS and no charges were filed
3. Evidence of bribes or other methods to silence "victims".....none
4. Porn on the accused computers....none...... Plenty however on the government issued computers of prosecutors
5. reports of a "silver convertible".....still searching LOL LOL LOL
6. God only knows....but it should make a custodian cry.

 

[marshall23]

And how many testified to things that, while on their own could seem plausible, when considered with all of the other allegations, cannot possibly have happened (e.g. overlapping "schedules", Jerry supposedly committing crimes when he was clearly at practice or out recruiting, etc)?

How many were mislead by police into giving false statements? (we know of at least one; hard to believe that was an isolate incident -- just the only one caught on tape)

How many initially said nothing occurred and then higher Andrew Shubin who convinced them otherwise?

I have no idea if Sandusky is innocent or not. I do know that many of the "claimants" are lying and Sandusky did not get a fair trial (and that is not an excited utterance LOL).
The fact that these scumbags only surface when scrutiny is warranted should tell any curious individual that they are scared shitless and they are hiding something.
Bring on a new trial. If JS is indeed guilty he'll be convicted once again.
I never saw the section of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that denies accused pedophiles the right to a fair trial.
I also know that the PSU 3 were convicted under a statute that did not exist when the alleged crime occurred.
So, EX POST FACTO protection doesn't exist in Pa.? Let the "little boy in the shower" come forth to claim his millions. Why didn't he? Only God and anyone who has followed this case knows why.

 

[marshall23]

I've shed zero tears except of joy when you get intellectually abused by my fellow board mates.

It's not sport to abuse a window licker.

 

[marshall23]

And how many testified to things that, while on their own could seem plausible, when considered with all of the other allegations, cannot possibly have happened (e.g. overlapping "schedules", Jerry supposedly committing crimes when he was clearly at practice or out recruiting, etc)?

How many were mislead by police into giving false statements? (we know of at least one; hard to believe that was an isolate incident -- just the only one caught on tape)

How many initially said nothing occurred and then higher Andrew Shubin who convinced them otherwise?

but....but....they started to remember when everything got green.

Recovered-memory therapy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[marshall23]

Justice and truth do matter and in this case was done correctly. The argument you make must be proven and you haven’t done that.

Which truth? The first statement....second.....third....after receiving help from an attorney?
Which statement is "the truth."
Tell me which claimant has a track record of being truthful, law abiding and honest?

 

[WHCANole]

So your position is "the courts got it right because the courts got it right"? Socrates is floored by your level of discourse.

No, the position is YOU must prove that the courts got it wrong and you can't/haven't.

If there is no need to argue, stop posting on these threads. Seems pretty simple.

But we need to refute the lies and conspiracy theories.

 

[marshall23]

No, the position is YOU must prove that the courts got it wrong and you can't/haven't.

But we need to refute the lies and conspiracy theories.

You need to protect your secret.

 

[WHCANole]

Quite a difference between general oversight and supervision sparky. TSM was investigated by the Feds. what was the result?

 

[WHCANole]

How many have extensive criminal records?

Irrelevant. Jerry picked troubled kids to abuse so fools like you would not believe them,

 

[WHCANole]

And how many testified to things that, while on their own could seem plausible, when considered with all of the other allegations, cannot possibly have happened (e.g. overlapping "schedules", Jerry supposedly committing crimes when he was clearly at practice or out recruiting, etc)?

How many were mislead by police into giving false statements? (we know of at least one; hard to believe that was an isolate incident -- just the only one caught on tape)

How many initially said nothing occurred and then higher Andrew Shubin who convinced them otherwise?

It's all a conspiracy I tell ya!

 

[crm114psu]

Right you are. Like those who believe the CIA killed JFK. Fringe folk believe it but no one else will.

Hilarious that all these BWI armchair lawyers know more than the professionals.

"That Wick Sollers with the Paternos is going to make those people pay......."
"We will just boycott ESPN, that will show them ......"
"Zig knows more than anyone about this case, his info will set Jerry free ..."
"Special (real estate) Agent John Snedden proclaims Jerry is innocent ..."
"Can't wait for CSS to go to trial so the truth will come out ..."
"Spainer wrote a book ..."


After more than 10 years the needle has yet to move. Jerry has lost every appeal and is still a convict. CSS are and will remain ex-cons. And Joe Paterno is just a set of numbers in the record books with his reputation in the outhouse.

10 more years!

 

[AWS1022]

Irrelevant. Jerry picked troubled kids to abuse so fools like you would not believe them,

So you use a conspiracy theory to argue against conspiracy theories….interesting.

 

[WHCANole]

1. No forensic evidence

Never is with these cases

2. one contemporaneous complaint.

Often the case in CSA where the victims were groomed. Joe got a complaint from MM and others in the 1970s.

Investigated by police and CYS and no charges were filed

A licensed psychologist submitted report that said Sandusky was a pedophile. No charges filed in this case means they didn't have enough to convict a pillar of the community.

3. Evidence of bribes or other methods to silence "victims".....none

PSU didn't know who the victims were because they didn't care. Until it was exposed.

4. Porn on the accused computers....none...... Plenty however on the government issued computers of prosecutors

Irrelevant. Not all pedophiles have porn on their computers. I doubt Jerry even knew much about how to even use one. How much porn is on YOUR computer?

5. reports of a "silver convertible".....still searching LOL LOL LOL

Lame

6. God only knows....but it should make a custodian cry.

Stupid

 

[PSU2UNC]

Cool, we are all happy then.

So you just admitted to getting the intellectual smack down on this topic? Huh...well, at least you are self aware.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Hilarious that all these BWI armchair lawyers know more than the professionals.

"That Wick Sollers with the Paternos is going to make those people pay......."
"We will just boycott ESPN, that will show them ......"
"Zig knows more than anyone about this case, his info will set Jerry free ..."
"Special (real estate) Agent John Snedden proclaims Jerry is innocent ..."
"Can't wait for CSS to go to trial so the truth will come out ..."
"Spainer wrote a book ..."


After more than 10 years the needle has yet to move. Jerry has lost every appeal and is still a convict. CSS are and will remain ex-cons. And Joe Paterno is just a set of numbers in the record books with his reputation in the outhouse.

10 more years!

The needle has moved in that we know WAY more about the truth than we did 10 years ago. Most people have either chosen to ignore this, are not away of it or have been actively fighting against the truth coming out.

I understand this is not a popular topic to discuss. It makes many people feel uncomfortable, which is why many (most?) people choose to ignore it. That doesn't make the truth any less important.

You also seem to think that "knowing the truth" (which we do) will always result in a fair and just outcome. This is not the case.

 

[WHCANole]

I have no idea if Sandusky is innocent or not.

Sure seems like you think he is innocent

I do know that many of the "claimants" are lying and Sandusky did not get a fair trial (and that is not an excited utterance LOL).

It is an idiotic utterance and Sandusky did get a fair trial and will die in prison.

The fact that these scumbags only surface when scrutiny is warranted should tell any curious individual that they are scared shitless and they are hiding something.

Tell us more!

Bring on a new trial. If JS is indeed guilty he'll be convicted once again.

He would be but it wouldn't make you sane.

I never saw the section of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that denies accused pedophiles the right to a fair trial.

dumb comment

I also know that the PSU 3 were convicted under a statute that did not exist when the alleged crime occurred.

Supreme Court disagreed

So, EX POST FACTO protection doesn't exist in Pa.?

It does but didn't apply to CSS

Let the "little boy in the shower" come forth to claim his millions. Why didn't he? Only God and anyone who has followed this case knows why.

Maybe he did?

 

[WHCANole]

Which truth? The first statement....second.....third....after receiving help from an attorney?
Which statement is "the truth."
Tell me which claimant has a track record of being truthful, law abiding and honest?

The truth they testified to in court that convicted Jerry.

 

[WHCANole]

Hilarious that all these BWI armchair lawyers know more than the professionals.

"That Wick Sollers with the Paternos is going to make those people pay......."
"We will just boycott ESPN, that will show them ......"
"Zig knows more than anyone about this case, his info will set Jerry free ..."
"Special (real estate) Agent John Snedden proclaims Jerry is innocent ..."
"Can't wait for CSS to go to trial so the truth will come out ..."
"Spainer wrote a book ..."


After more than 10 years the needle has yet to move. Jerry has lost every appeal and is still a convict. CSS are and will remain ex-cons. And Joe Paterno is just a set of numbers in the record books with his reputation in the outhouse.

10 more years!

Here is an extensive crow list for JoeBots. Enjoy!

The Crow List:



03/11 Sandusky will never be charged

11/11 Sandusky will never be convicted.

06/12 The Freeh Report will exonerate everyone at Penn State.

07/12 The NCAA will never sanction Penn State.

07/12 Spanier will never be indicted.

01/13 Kane will drop the charges against the Paterno 3

07/13 The charges will be dismissed at the preliminary hearing.

03/14 Moulton will show a massive conspiracy

07/14 PSU will fight the sanctions.

09/14 Corbett, Emmert, Erickson, and the BoT will be arrested.

10/14 PSU/NCAA do not want to be deposed; they will fold

12/14 The Paterno 3 want the trial, but the state is delaying it.

01/15 Corman's going to get everything back. It is a big victory.

03/15 Kane isn't in any trouble.

12/15 Kane will drop some bombs on Williams, Fina, etc.

12/15 Kane will not be removed from office by the Senate

12/15 Kane will win the federal lawsuits

03/16 Reese will not serve jail time.

06/16 Kane will never be convicted

10/16 Kane will never serve a day in jail.

10/16 McQueary will not win his Whistleblower lawsuit.

10/16 The conspiracy charge against the Paterno 3 will not be reinstated

10/16 The Paterno 3 case will never go to trial

02/17 The Paterno 3 will be found not guilty.

02/17 All the e-mails are faked.

03/17 Spanier will win on appeal

03/17 Spanier won’t serve any jail time

 

[crm114psu]

So you just admitted to getting the intellectual smack down on this topic? Huh...well, at least you are self aware.

We are still waiting on that page and paragraph from Snedden's official report that exonerates Sandusky, like you were adamant about. The one that Jimmy had to point out to you didn't exist.

Found it yet?

 

[WHCANole]

So you use a conspiracy theory to argue against conspiracy theories….interesting.

It's not a conspiracy theory but documented predator activity common in these cases. You should read up more on CSA.

 

[WHCANole]

You need to protect your secret.

What is my secret sparky? 😱

 

[WHCANole]

So you just admitted to getting the intellectual smack down on this topic? Huh...well, at least you are self aware.

NO he didn't but you are a fool.

 

[AWS1022]

It's not a conspiracy theory but documented predator activity common in these cases. You should read up more on CSA.

And you should let your obsession with this go. Get a hobby or something….you’re not going to change anyone’s mind and no one is going to change yours, so let it go dude. Good lord.

 

[WHCANole]

We are still waiting on that page and paragraph from Snedden's official report that exonerates Sandusky, like you were adamant about. The one that Jimmy had to point out to you didn't exist.

Found it yet?

He also said Spanier would never serve any jail time. But then he's got quite a record of failure here.

 

[PSU2UNC]

We are still waiting on that page and paragraph from Snedden's official report that exonerates Sandusky, like you were adamant about. The one that Jimmy had to point out to you didn't exist.

Found it yet?

You move the goalposts. What did Snedden say he found in his investigation? I don't care what is in the report. What were his findings?

Was Spanier's security clearance renewed? Would they do that for someone about to be possibly convicted on felony charges?

I'll wait...

 

[WHCANole]

And you should let your obsession with this go. Get a hobby or something….you’re not going to change anyone’s mind and no one is going to change yours, so let it go dude. Good lord.

Why are you here then?