State College McDonalds closed?

[Cowbell Man]

Wut? No.

What happens is that, if you go grocery shopping, you see things that appeal to you, and you decide to buy them on impulse, and you end up with more food than you planned on having. There's an entire industry based on trying to convince you to buy things (positioning, packaging, etc.) ... it's how these places have flourished.

If you, instead, just select the things you want online, you aren't randomly walking past things not on your list, and you aren't tempted to buy them.

Now, one could say, hey, just stick to your list when you go to the store ... and that's fine ... but I'm not sure what you're failing to see with her argument, nor am I sure what you're trying to say about the 2 trips and her cabinets

Just saying she fills her cart with half things that weren’t on her list. After about 2 trips, apparently she has bought things she’s not going to eat. So her cabinets are full of stuff she doesn’t want

That’s largely not true, she just buys more than she wanted at the time. She, like others, is mostly making excuses for paying for convenience rather than doing something themselves. My kids try the same stuff on me.

That is, Until they started paying for it themselves.

 

[PurposePitch]

Just saying she fills her cart with half things that weren’t on her list. After about 2 trips, apparently she has bought things she’s not going to eat. So her cabinets are full of stuff she doesn’t want

That’s largely not true, she just buys more than she wanted at the time. She, like others, is mostly making excuses for paying for convenience rather than doing something themselves. My kids try the same stuff on me.

That is, Until they started paying for it themselves.

Yeah, I still don't understand what you're trying to convey, but it's largely irrelevant. If you're trying to say that, after 2 trips of buying more than she had planned on buying, she's now out of room in her cabinets, that's just silly. It's not like she'd be buying hundreds of dollars of extra stuff every trip, and most people don't buy so much, or have such limited cabinet space, that they can't fit a few more items into them.

Yes, people buy stuff they weren't planning on buying when they go grocery shopping. Some of that goes unused. Some of it gets eaten (eating more than you planned on eating). Some of it gets tossed out when it goes bad.

This isn't a difficult concept. It's how grocery stores make a living. It's how almost all sales driven businesses make a living. They set up their stores to drive more sales ... why? I mean, if folks just bought what they "needed," it'd have no effect. But, of course, it does. The milk is all the way in the back, in the corner away from the entrance because it's a staple product ... and folks are going to walk past all the goodies and high margin stuff that they want you to buy while you go get it. They position things they want you to buy on the ends of aisles, or in other ways to attract attention. Produce is on one side of the store while bread, milk and frozen goods are on the other, so you have to travel the entire store just to "pick up a few things." Then you end up with 8 items instead of 5. Because "oh, those look good. Oh, I haven't had those in awhile! Oh, that's a new flavor, have to try it! I can eat those while I watch a movie tonight!" And so on. It's basic marketing and sales. Car salesman want you on the lot so they can point you to a more expensive option, or convince you to buy extras. Tech sales want you to see the latest, most expensive thing so you upgrade over what you planned to buy, or they put the accessories right next to the big thing that goes with it, so you throw this thing and that thing into your basket, and they rack up extra sales.

"I can't buy more food because my cabinets are full" is not a thing. Even with people overbuying on a regular basis.

 

[PSUeng]

In the Wendy's app you can get a $5 meal that has a burger, 4 nuggs, fries and a drink. It's about the only fast food I order anymore.

We do Mission BBQ, 2 meat sample is 12.99. Taste way better than Mcdonnold's

 

[gamblepsu]

Yeah, I still don't understand what you're trying to convey, but it's largely irrelevant. If you're trying to say that, after 2 trips of buying more than she had planned on buying, she's now out of room in her cabinets, that's just silly. It's not like she'd be buying hundreds of dollars of extra stuff every trip, and most people don't buy so much, or have such limited cabinet space, that they can't fit a few more items into them.

Yes, people buy stuff they weren't planning on buying when they go grocery shopping. Some of that goes unused. Some of it gets eaten (eating more than you planned on eating). Some of it gets tossed out when it goes bad.

This isn't a difficult concept. It's how grocery stores make a living. It's how almost all sales driven businesses make a living. They set up their stores to drive more sales ... why? I mean, if folks just bought what they "needed," it'd have no effect. But, of course, it does. The milk is all the way in the back, in the corner away from the entrance because it's a staple product ... and folks are going to walk past all the goodies and high margin stuff that they want you to buy while you go get it. They position things they want you to buy on the ends of aisles, or in other ways to attract attention. Produce is on one side of the store while bread, milk and frozen goods are on the other, so you have to travel the entire store just to "pick up a few things." Then you end up with 8 items instead of 5. Because "oh, those look good. Oh, I haven't had those in awhile! Oh, that's a new flavor, have to try it! I can eat those while I watch a movie tonight!" And so on. It's basic marketing and sales. Car salesman want you on the lot so they can point you to a more expensive option, or convince you to buy extras. Tech sales want you to see the latest, most expensive thing so you upgrade over what you planned to buy, or they put the accessories right next to the big thing that goes with it, so you throw this thing and that thing into your basket, and they rack up extra sales.

"I can't buy more food because my cabinets are full" is not a thing. Even with people overbuying on a regular basis.

And not to mention you don’t think the grocery/delivery App is trying to up upsell as well? (And is probably just as successful since they have all the data on what is working)

 

[LMTLION]

I often went to McDonalds after partying on a Friday night. Fond memories. We often took a stack of napkins back to the apartment replenish our stock. My late 40s body could not hang with my college body. 😀. It’s a light weight with beer and too often has acid reflux!

 

[Cowbell Man]

Yeah, I still don't understand what you're trying to convey, but it's largely irrelevant. If you're trying to say that, after 2 trips of buying more than she had planned on buying, she's now out of room in her cabinets, that's just silly. It's not like she'd be buying hundreds of dollars of extra stuff every trip, and most people don't buy so much, or have such limited cabinet space, that they can't fit a few more items into them.

Yes, people buy stuff they weren't planning on buying when they go grocery shopping. Some of that goes unused. Some of it gets eaten (eating more than you planned on eating). Some of it gets tossed out when it goes bad.

This isn't a difficult concept. It's how grocery stores make a living. It's how almost all sales driven businesses make a living. They set up their stores to drive more sales ... why? I mean, if folks just bought what they "needed," it'd have no effect. But, of course, it does. The milk is all the way in the back, in the corner away from the entrance because it's a staple product ... and folks are going to walk past all the goodies and high margin stuff that they want you to buy while you go get it. They position things they want you to buy on the ends of aisles, or in other ways to attract attention. Produce is on one side of the store while bread, milk and frozen goods are on the other, so you have to travel the entire store just to "pick up a few things." Then you end up with 8 items instead of 5. Because "oh, those look good. Oh, I haven't had those in awhile! Oh, that's a new flavor, have to try it! I can eat those while I watch a movie tonight!" And so on. It's basic marketing and sales. Car salesman want you on the lot so they can point you to a more expensive option, or convince you to buy extras. Tech sales want you to see the latest, most expensive thing so you upgrade over what you planned to buy, or they put the accessories right next to the big thing that goes with it, so you throw this thing and that thing into your basket, and they rack up extra sales.

"I can't buy more food because my cabinets are full" is not a thing. Even with people overbuying on a regular basis.

lol. A lot of time spent on that. She over spends on food using delivery. She over spends going to get it. Mine too. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Ski]

Every time I see UBER EATS on my credit card, I am half tempted to take it away from my kids. It's f'ing double. I've taken to going out and picking up any take out we order. Panera has a half decent system.

When I saw this thread that is the first thing that I thought about. Are the kids paying for Door Dash or are the parents paying for their kids to do something that they would not do for themselves? If the parents are paying these extra fees for their kids' convenience, why? It isn't a kid issue or a generational issue in my mind -- it is a parenting issue. But hey, it is your money so spend it however you want and more power to you all.

 

[The Spin Meister]

It was different back in the day...back when I was a college kid and after I got out of the military but before dating and marrying my future wife.

Back then fast food was dirt-cheap. You could practically live on it which for a period of years I pretty much did: hamburgers, fries, an occasional Whaler -- that's what Burger King called their fish entree -- and soda or a milk shake to drink. Dunkin Donuts sprinkled in. Truly a balanced diet.

Funny sidenote: I did a lot of drive-through in those days and tossed the bags, wrappings, cups, and food remnants in the back seat. I literally had garbage from the floor to the level of the back window behind me. It was pretty impressive.

My grandmother was duly horrified when she got in my car once. So was my future wife years later but at some level I think she found it endearing. Like, yeah, this guy really needs a woman's help. It might have been my most persuasive argument for closing the deal: an appeal to her Christian sensibilities based on the appearance of my back seat.

The point being, I owe my marriage, children, and grandchildren to McDonalds. So I won't talk shit about them even 40 years later...

So you were like the starving, abandoned puppy soaking wet covered with fleas that she just couldn’t resist.

What a strategy, you sly fox !

 

[PurposePitch]

lol. A lot of time spent on that. She over spends on food using delivery. She over spends going to get it. Mine too. 🤷🏻‍♂️

lol. No effort or time spent on that. Teaching fiscal responsibility starts at the home. Sorry that yours is/are overspending, but that doesn't mean others are.

 

[Lion84]

lol. No effort or time spent on that. Teaching fiscal responsibility starts at the home. Sorry that yours is/are overspending, but that doesn't mean others are.

When my kids got their first real paycheck they were shocked how much in taxes were taken out - I said get used to it and remember it when you vote not that it ever really changes no matter who is in power - bureaucracy lives to sustain itself.

 

[Obliviax]

lol. No effort or time spent on that. Teaching fiscal responsibility starts at the home. Sorry that yours is/are overspending, but that doesn't mean others are.

it is all relative. I recall a TV star sending her personal jet to Phoenix to prove to her friends that the best Chile was from a place there. Or, Jeff Bezos tearing down a bridge so his yacht can go downstream (he paid for a new one).

You are correct, fiscal responsibility is taught at home. Sadley, many don't get it until THEY are the one working for the money. My daughter didn't "get" the problems with doordash until she started to work and realized DD was costing her about half of her working day. (she rather get a mani pedi).

 

[Obliviax]

When my kids got their first real paycheck they were shocked how much in taxes were taken out - I said get used to it and remember it when you vote not that it ever really changes no matter who is in power - bureaucracy lives to sustain itself.

I am always amazed that a proposal to lower taxes is considered controversial.

 

[PurposePitch]

When my kids got their first real paycheck they were shocked how much in taxes were taken out - I said get used to it and remember it when you vote not that it ever really changes no matter who is in power - bureaucracy lives to sustain itself.

My kids knew how much would be taken out of their paychecks before they ever worked. They also understand tax policy, and aren't going to be shocked or frightened into making bad political decisions based on a lack of information or ability to analyze real world decisions. They're in high school. One just started this year. If you need tax policy beyond "don't take my monay!!!" explained to you, I could have him teach you.

 

[PurposePitch]

it is all relative. I recall a TV star sending her personal jet to Phoenix to prove to her friends that the best Chile was from a place there. Or, Jeff Bezos tearing down a bridge so his yacht can go downstream (he paid for a new one).

You are correct, fiscal responsibility is taught at home. Sadley, many don't get it until THEY are the one working for the money. My daughter didn't "get" the problems with doordash until she started to work and realized DD was costing her about half of her working day. (she rather get a mani pedi).

I'm not sure how she couldn't understand basic math. You don't need to be "working for the money" to understand basic math. Oh well, we all have our problems, I guess.

 

[Lion84]

As long as you cam explain to them the concept of compounding interest and what a 401K match means and why you need to max it out as soon as you get a job that provides it they will be good. Google average retirement saving in your age group and it is scary how many people at retirement age have no money saved and I understand circumstances that are beyond your control have an effect but I think keeping up with the Jones is a major factor.

 

[PurposePitch]

As long as you cam explain to them the concept of compounding interest and what a 401K match means and why you need to max it out as soon as you get a job that provides it they will be good. Google average retirement saving in your age group and it is scary how many people at retirement age have no money saved and I understand circumstances that are beyond your control have an effect but I think keeping up with the Jones is a major factor.

If you need some help structuring your investment portfolio for the highest returns, considering your particular needs (timing, taxation schemata concerns, etc.), my kids can be of service to you. Free of charge. They like volunteer work.

It pains me to see financially illiterate youth ... it pains me even more to see financially illiterate adults who think they figured it all out.

 

[Lion84]

If you need some help structuring your investment portfolio for the highest returns, considering your particular needs (timing, taxation schemata concerns, etc.), my kids can be of service to you. Free of charge. They like volunteer work.

It pains me to see financially illiterate youth ... it pains me even more to see financially illiterate adults who think they figured it all out.

it pains me to see sanctimonious a-holes who are deluded into thinking they are smart.

 

[PurposePitch]

it pains me to see sanctimonious a-holes who are deluded into thinking they are smart.

Tell us more about compounding interest and progeny not finding out until they get a paycheck that taxes are a thing, and a mentor that blames it on bureaucracy ...

 

[Lion84]

Tell us more about compounding interest and progeny not finding out until they get a paycheck that taxes are a thing, and a mentor that blames it on bureaucracy ...

How about I tell you about how you are a douche bag POS - seems more apropos to this discussion. You will probable have to look up what apropos means though considering what I have seen about your intellect quotient.

 

[PurposePitch]

How about I tell you about how you are a douche bag POS - seems more apropos to this discussion. You will probable have to look up what apropos means though considering what I have seen about your intellect quotient.

"You will probable" and "intellect quotient" ... relax, emotionally unstable guy. You're getting all flustered and I'm just trying to help you. Blame it on the bureaucracy. Oh, and I'm quite comfortable with the fact that compounding interest and your progeny being shocked at taxes is more apropos to the discussion of compounding interest and your progeny being shocked at taxes than your childish name-calling.

Have yourself a McDonald's chocolate shake ... nobody can be angry whilst downing a McDonald's shake ... just don't get freaked out if there is a sales tax on the shake. It's the bureaucracy that causes it.

 

[Obliviax]

 

[Lion84]

"You will probable" and "intellect quotient" ... relax, emotionally unstable guy. You're getting all flustered and I'm just trying to help you. Blame it on the bureaucracy. Oh, and I'm quite comfortable with the fact that compounding interest and your progeny being shocked at taxes is more apropos to the discussion of compounding interest and your progeny being shocked at taxes than your childish name-calling.

Have yourself a McDonald's chocolate shake ... nobody can be angry whilst downing a McDonald's shake ... just don't get freaked out if there is a sales tax on the shake. It's the bureaucracy that causes it.

FU asshole - life is too short to deal with miserable people like you who are under the impression that literally anyone give a shit about what you think - and you are one of those assholes. Have a nice life which I doubt you will be I have and I will.

 

[Marylovesthelions]

I don't understand this obsession with Uber eats and other delivery services. You take a $9 McD meal and make it $15. And walking to the McD's and eating there is a great way to get out, exercise and have a social moment.

It is truly crazy.

paying another $6 to add on a $100,000+ student loan may seem inconsequential at the time. The days of working class kids attending PSU ended 40 years ago.

 

[PurposePitch]

FU asshole - life is too short to deal with miserable people like you who are under the impression that literally anyone give a shit about what you think - and you are one of those assholes. Have a nice life which I doubt you will be I have and I will.

Just don't forget about compounding interest. I doubt you will be I have and I will.

 

[PSU4U]

WTF is wrong with people.

Kangaroo meat?

 

[Lion84]

Just don't forget about compounding interest. I doubt you will be I have and I will.

WTF does that even mean - you sound illiterate.

 

[PurposePitch]

WTF does that even mean - you sound illiterate.

LOL!

Awesome.

I was quoting you.

FU asshole - life is too short to deal with miserable people like you who are under the impression that literally anyone give a shit about what you think - and you are one of those assholes. Have a nice life which I doubt you will be I have and I will.