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[wensilver]

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[OldTiredLion]

With all due respect Wendy, what has Kane done for PSU?

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

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I'm fatigued by the partisan corruption within Pennsylvania. It's now almost impossible to discern the scum from the semi-scum.

 

[fairgambit]

I'm fatigued by the partisan corruption within Pennsylvania. It's now almost impossible to discern the scum from the semi-scum.

You're right on the money. I have no idea where justice falls in the Kane matters.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Thank you, Wendy. Kane is going after Fina. That tells me pretty much alI I need to know.

 

[fairgambit]

Thank you, Wendy. Kane is going after Fina. That tells me pretty much alI I need to know.

That helps, but it's not enough for me. I hope you are right but there is too much that I don't know for me to give her my full support.

 

[bmw199]

Thank you, Wendy. Kane is going after Fina. That tells me pretty much alI I need to know.

That helps, but it's not enough for me. I hope you are right but there is too much that I don't know for me to give her my full support.

I'm young but from what I have learned that sounds a lot like 80s foreign policy. The enemy of my enemy type nonsense. That's not how you pick your horse.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

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[Ten Thousan Marbles]

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In just the past week, she has caused a stake to be driven into the heart of Frank Fina's career, among others.

Significantly, I think it is now safe to say that Seth Williams is never, ever going to realize his stated ambition of one day being the President of PSU.

Not a bad week at all. And, all this came just a few days after we were being told she was toast.

And, despite what I just wrote above, we are going to see over and over again how people keep moving the goal posts as to "what has Kane ever done for PSU." LOL

 

[WeR0206]

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"And then came an opportunity to claim Kane broke the law by releasing impounded material from a six year old grand jury report to the Philadelphia Daily News (a’Man bites dog’ event of a newspaper exposing its alleged source!)

Suppose the indictment charged murder, grand theft, rape, or corruption? There might be good reason to force the party out of office.

For giving information for a news article, which Kane denies having done, should such an indictment for such a penny ante offense be an automatic ticket to oblivion?

And what sort of power does this give to accusers? They don’t have to prove a damn thing. “New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that ‘a grand jury would “indict a ham sandwich,” if that’s what you wanted.’

In this case we have Republicans accusers, a Republican prosecutor, Republican District Attorney and Republican judge.
What sort of precedent would forcing Kane out of office over such small change set? What invitation for future abuse by members of either party… or just malcontents?"

 

[therod]

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"And then came an opportunity to claim Kane broke the law by releasing impounded material from a six year old grand jury report to the Philadelphia Daily News (a’Man bites dog’ event of a newspaper exposing its alleged source!)

Suppose the indictment charged murder, grand theft, rape, or corruption? There might be good reason to force the party out of office.

For giving information for a news article, which Kane denies having done, should such an indictment for such a penny ante offense be an automatic ticket to oblivion?

And what sort of power does this give to accusers? They don’t have to prove a damn thing. “New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler was famously quoted by Tom Wolfe in The Bonfire of the Vanities that ‘a grand jury would “indict a ham sandwich,” if that’s what you wanted.’

In this case we have Republicans accusers, a Republican prosecutor, Republican District Attorney and Republican judge.
What sort of precedent would forcing Kane out of office over such small change set? What invitation for future abuse by members of either party… or just malcontents?"

Don't forget that her own party is throwing her under the bus as well

 

[bjf1984]

A lot of folks will never view this - or any other issue - with any more depth than the first layer of an onion.

Such is the nature of contemporary society.....Alas.

And we wonder how the "Sandusky Affair" could have evolved into the scumbag-catalyzed, media-fed idiot orgy that it became.



Time to watch the Kardashians

 

[Thus Spoke Mainer]

F off. Kane's a crook, pure and simple. Her only defence? "I'm a WOMAN!!!"

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

F off. Kane's a crook, pure and simple. Her only defence? "I'm a WOMAN!!!"

LOL. Sore?

 

[step.eng69]

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Thanks Wendy. Wonder what the emergency is to pull her law license? Too many politicals with dirt?

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[WeR0206]

Kane's a crook

Based on what? Allegations by the very people she is exposing via porngate? HA!! I must have missed the part where she got convicted of anything....

 

[PennStateNate]

F off. Kane's a crook, pure and simple. Her only defence? "I'm a WOMAN!!!"

LOL

 

[LafayetteBear]

I'm young but from what I have learned that sounds a lot like 80s foreign policy. The enemy of my enemy type nonsense. That's not how you pick your horse.

That's just it. You're young. Obviously, that has zero to do with your IQ or competence, but your perspective on Joe is entirely different than the perspective of many here who have YEARS of positive memories where Joe is concerned. Those folks are invested in Joe and his legacy in a way someone your age can never be. It is what it is.

I realize that Kane is far from perfect. She has, IMO, been a disappointment in terms of her failure to do much of anything regarding the BoT cabal, the Second Mile folks, etc. But Fina is such an asshole, and so richly deserves to be booted out of public "service" and prosecuted, that her going after him gives me considerable satisfaction.

 

[bmw199]

That's just it. You're young. Obviously, that has zero to do with your IQ or competence, but your perspective on Joe is entirely different than the perspective of many here who have YEARS of positive memories where Joe is concerned. Those folks are invested in Joe and his legacy in a way someone your age can never be. It is what it is.

I realize that Kane is far from perfect. She has, IMO, been a disappointment in terms of her failure to do much of anything regarding the BoT cabal, the Second Mile folks, etc. But Fina is such an asshole, and so richly deserves to be booted out of public "service" and prosecuted, that her going after him gives me considerable satisfaction.

I take issue with that. Other than my own father that man is one of few heroes I had growing up. I care deeply about his legacy. I just don't think this stuff has much to do with it or repairing it. Agree to disagree.

 

[fairgambit]

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I realize that Kane is far from perfect. She has, IMO, been a disappointment in terms of her failure to do much of anything regarding the BoT cabal, the Second Mile folks, etc. But Fina is such an asshole, and so richly deserves to be booted out of public "service" and prosecuted, that her going after him gives me considerable satisfaction.

While I don't know enough to give Kane my full support, I totally agree with your statement shown above.

 

[LafayetteBear]

I take issue with that. Other than my own father that man is one of few heroes I had growing up. I care deeply about his legacy. I just don't think this stuff has much to do with it or repairing it. Agree to disagree.

OK, if that is the case, you would be an exception to the rule. Younger members of the PSU community just do not feel as strongly about Joe and his legacy as their elders. BTW, I could have sworn that some of your prior posts indicated you were inclined toward the view of many students and younger alums (i.e.,, let's move on, etc.) If I was mistaken in my recollection of your position, I stand corrected.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

OK, if that is the case, you would be an exception to the rule. Younger members of the PSU community just do not feel as strongly about Joe and his legacy as their elders. BTW, I could have sworn that some of your prior posts indicated you were inclined toward the view of many students and younger alums (i.e.,, let's move on, etc.) If I was mistaken in my recollection of your position, I stand corrected.

And precisely what do you base your "rule" on? I think BMW is the "rule".

 

[Aoshiro]

OK, if that is the case, you would be an exception to the rule. Younger members of the PSU community just do not feel as strongly about Joe and his legacy as their elders. BTW, I could have sworn that some of your prior posts indicated you were inclined toward the view of many students and younger alums (i.e.,, let's move on, etc.) If I was mistaken in my recollection of your position, I stand corrected.

I don't know that that's really true. The BOT-admin trots out student suck-ups to sell that story, but if you see the amount of 409 and Paterno swag sold to current Penn State students, and the number of tweets on Paterno's birthday, it seems like there's a disconnect. There are clearly many many current Penn State students who still look up to Paterno.

 

[Marshall30]

Those who hate Kane are the same vipers that support the BoT.

 

[bjf1984]

Those who hate Kane are the same vipers that support the BoT.

^^^^ Largely true, though there are exceptions ^^^^

But, by and large, the folks with true CONTEMPT AND HATRED of Kane (as opposed to some who just "may not like" her) are - indeed - the Bot-bots. Which - knowing NOTHING ELSE - would be plenty of reason to AT LEAST give her a large "benefit of the doubt".

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

Those who hate Kane are the same vipers that support the BoT.

True to some extent. But, a good number of these posters who just plain hate Kane, just plain hate her because of politics. Many of those posters are anti-BOT as well.

It might be more accurate to say that the same people who hate Kane have not yet completely come to terms with who did us all wrong. (To be fair, if it was the guys I traditionally vote for, I probably would be having the same difficulty as them.)

 

[bmw199]

Those who hate Kane are the same vipers that support the BoT.

^^^^ Largely true, though there are exceptions ^^^^

But, by and large, the folks with true CONTEMPT AND HATRED of Kane (as opposed to some who just "may not like" her) are - indeed - the Bot-bots. Which - knowing NOTHING ELSE - would be plenty of reason to AT LEAST give her a large "benefit of the doubt".

I will reply to LafayetteBear in a second but this is NOT TRUE. Don't stuff words in my mouth or interrupt my opinion on what I view is a non related issue to Kane. She is an opportunist pure and simple. If she survives I fully expect her to challenge Wolf for the Democratic nomination in 2018. he is an opportunist too and so is Corman (the only person to actually accomplished something, no matter if it was enough or not).

If any of them really cared about PSU they would set their sights on the BOT and reforming it so there is not the Power Bloc that is the old guard. Wolf could replace the gov appointees to tell them how to vote. Corman is working on legislation with Yudiachek(sp?) but not that fast and Kane seems to have no interest in putting Curley, Spanier, or Schultz on the stand. That's why the obsession with her is overrated and why I made the joke poll I did the other day.

 

[LafayetteBear]

And precisely what do you base your "rule" on? I think BMW is the "rule".

Ziggy: Look, I would prefer it if students and younger alums were uniformly as concerned about repairing and protecting Joe's legacy as people like you or me (and, apparently, BMW), but my perception is that, as a general rule, they are not. Joe's tenure did not end all that many years ago, so perhaps I should qualify that general rule to exclude young alums since they also had some overlap with Joe, but haven't you noticed that there have been more than a few young alums who have submitted posts here to the effect that "Joe stayed too long," "The game had passed Joe by," etc?

I don't enjoy reading posts like those because I happen to disagree with them, but I also recognize the effect of "time and tide." Today's students have largely had zero personal experience with or exposure to Joe, and therefore tend to be - understandably - less invested in or concerned with his legacy. .

 

[bjf1984]

I will reply to LafayetteBear in a second but this is NOT TRUE. Don't stuff words in my mouth or interrupt my opinion on what I view is a non related issue to Kane. She is an opportunist pure and simple. If she survives I fully expect her to challenge Wolf for the Democratic nomination in 2018. he is an opportunist too and so is Corman (the only person to actually accomplished something, no matter if it was enough or not).

If any of them really cared about PSU they would set their sights on the BOT and reforming it so there is not the Power Bloc that is the old guard. Wolf could replace the gov appointees to tell them how to vote. Corman is working on legislation with Yudiachek(sp?) but not that fast and Kane seems to have no interest in putting Curley, Spanier, or Schultz on the stand. That's why the obsession with her is overrated and why I made the joke poll I did the other day.

I agree with a lot of what you said BMW....but there are a few points on which you are misinformed (not being overly critical, because there is a LOT of misinformation out there, intended to generate just the type of confusion we have been dealing with - just as there has been for the last 4 + years).

The most egregious error is that :

"Corman is working on legislation with Yudiachek (sic)":

Corman, as the Senate Majority Leader, and Fulmer (sp), as the committee chair, have the power to bring the Yudichak proposal to a vote (Corman also has - in the screwed up world of PA Politics - the ability to single-handedly, regardless of the feelings of the other 49 Senators, prevent any vote from taking place - FOREVER - by just "doing nothing"). The proposal has co-sponsorship from the majority of the PA Senators (60+ % IIRC)....and yet it sits un-voted upon.....in the same sort of everlasting purgatory as the CSS trial.

Corman is the - IMHO - single largest obstacle to be OVERCOME is passing meaningful BOT reform legislation.....certainly, he is, without doubt, an obstacle of some magnitude.
The idea that he is a PROPONENT of meaningful BOT reform (ie, neutering the unaccountable power-bloc) is ludicrous.

Perhaps the scariest thing is that you are certainly not alone. In fact, I suppose the majority of folks would say that Corman is a positive force for the "reform of PSU"....or some such thing.
It just illustrates the power of misinformation (and unmitigated gall) in an era of the woefully un-engaged and under-informed voter.
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The idea that Kane is primarily (or even significantly) to blame for the cluster-**** that is the CSS trial (that was dumped onto her lap).....would be about as logical as blaming McQueary - who's involvement stems from an ill-timed walk into a locker room one evening - as being the primary "guilty party" in the whole Jerry Sandusky fiasco.

 

[bmw199]

OK, if that is the case, you would be an exception to the rule. Younger members of the PSU community just do not feel as strongly about Joe and his legacy as their elders. BTW, I could have sworn that some of your prior posts indicated you were inclined toward the view of many students and younger alums (i.e.,, let's move on, etc.) If I was mistaken in my recollection of your position, I stand corrected.

And precisely what do you base your "rule" on? I think BMW is the "rule".

This will be long but I will try to certify my position on most things in here since there seems to be interest because of my age (28).

• I was a Mullally (name drop, hoping he checks in bc I did) supporter and he even came by our tailgate for Blue White in 2012(?) and he gave me a number of cards and I tried to hand them out to the rest of the crew but as was stated above not many of the other younger grads cared enough to pay attention.
• That is not to say they don't care about Joe. All of my friends love Joe (05 was a Fr year!) and don't think he did anything wrong and if you were in the same room as them and the conversation came up they would defend him and his legacy. All of them, like most students, own apparel that references him and cheer loudly when his picture comes on the big screens (next to all those great ads I must say).
• They may have some knowledge of the BOT but overall they are not fully aware of it's structure nor do they have a vested interest in fighting to change it. I would say they are all mostly aware that we got screwed, but most believe it was solely the NCAA and not an in house back stabbing. Even if they did know, think about your life from 23-35, did you have time or energy to put into fighting "the man" while starting a career and family. They just want to enjoy Penn State Football 12-15* times a year, as unfortunate as it is to hear.
• The biggest thing I wanted to happen (the biggest reason why I wanted to fight and the reason I voted for Kane to send a message), and I know some people will not like me saying this, is that I wanted all of the sanctions gone. I wanted the wins back and I wanted the football program out from under them. This has technically happened.
  
• I still want the BOT structure to change but the reality is; only the Gov or PA Legislature is going to make it happen. (Or violent conventional warfare). This Gov hasn't made it a priority. Legislature hasn't either (whether that's Corman's fault or not is another story).
• Speaking of Corman, I still view him as a sort of hero in this. (This isn't a right-left thing either, my Cruz supporting good friend who is the only one of my friends that follows this as closely as I, and all of you, do shares the sentiment that Corman snatched defeat from the jaws of victory). His actions, whether he intended or he MaGoo'd his way into it, achieved the thing I wanted most. (Side note: that friend is actually 3 years younger than me too, I've tried to get him to join the site bc he would provide good commentary as well, but he doesn't seem to interested at this point)
  
• I'm not saying we can "move on". I certainly don't consider myself in CR's camp, but what I wanted most happened. Do I want more, yes. Am I realistic about the nature of all of these politicians, yes. As I said above they are all opportunist. Everyone of them.
  
• Celebrating Kane for going after others to further her career doesn't suit me. Give me someone who does something for Penn State bc it is FOR PENN STATE. For you it may be vengeance, for her it is a stepping stone.

If I missed anything I will be happy to clarify. My take on Joe has been well documented on this site in other threads. He stayed too long but I wouldn't have had it any other way (if that makes sense). I wish so badly he would have ended his career with a Big Ten Championship raising the PATERNO-Stagg trophy.

 

[bmw199]

"Corman is working on legislation with Yudiachek (sic)":

Corman, as the Senate Majority Leader, and Fulmer (sp), as the committee chair, have the power to bring the Yudichak proposal to a vote (Corman also has - in the screwed up world of PA Politics - the ability to single-handedly, regardless of the feelings of the other 49 Senators, prevent any vote from taking place - FOREVER - by just "doing nothing"). The proposal has co-sponsorship from the majority of the PA Senators (60+ % IIRC)....and yet it sits un-voted upon.....in the same sort of everlasting purgatory as the CSS trial.

Corman is the - IMHO - single largest obstacle to be OVERCOME is passing meaningful BOT reform legislation.....certainly, he is, without doubt, an obstacle of some magnitude.
The idea that he is a PROPONENT of meaningful BOT reform (ie, neutering the unaccountable power-bloc) is ludicrous.

Perhaps the scariest thing is that you are certainly not alone. In fact, I suppose the majority of folks would say that Corman is a positive force for the "reform of PSU"....or some such thing.
It just illustrates the power of misinformation (and unmitigated gall) in an era of the woefully un-engaged and under-informed voter.

I believe deep down he wants to "fix" his university, but he also wants to be Governor of this state. He may not be able to attack the old guard until his already in the Gov mansion. And you may think I'm crazy for saying that; but then it is no less crazy then believe Wolf was going be this great thing for Penn State.

The idea that Kane is primarily (or even significantly) to blame for the cluster-**** that is the CSS trial (that was dumped onto her lap).....would be about as logical as blaming McQueary - who's involvement stems from an ill-timed walk into a locker room one evening - as being the primary "guilty party" in the whole Jerry Sandusky fiasco.

While both suffer from wrong place-wrong time. Both could handle/have handled their respective situations better for the university.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Ziggy: Look, I would prefer it if students and younger alums were uniformly as concerned about repairing and protecting Joe's legacy as people like you or me (and, apparently, BMW), but my perception is that, as a general rule, they are not. Joe's tenure did not end all that many years ago, so perhaps I should qualify that general rule to exclude young alums since they also had some overlap with Joe, but haven't you noticed that there have been more than a few young alums who have submitted posts here to the effect that "Joe stayed too long," "The game had passed Joe by," etc?

I don't enjoy reading posts like those because I happen to disagree with them, but I also recognize the effect of "time and tide." Today's students have largely had zero personal experience with or exposure to Joe, and therefore tend to be - understandably - less invested in or concerned with his legacy. .

Sort of like the way these coeds don't care about "The Bear's" legacy...

 

[LafayetteBear]

Well, I can't argue with those two coeds, dude.

 

[bjf1984]

I believe deep down he wants to "fix" his university, but he also wants to be Governor of this state. He may not be able to attack the old guard until his already in the Gov mansion. And you may think I'm crazy for saying that; but then it is no less crazy then believe Wolf was going be this great thing for Penn State.

While both suffer from wrong place-wrong time. Both could handle/have handled their respective situations better for the university.

"I believe deep down he wants to "fix" his university, but he also wants to be Governor of this state. He may not be able to attack the old guard until his already in the Gov mansion. And you may think I'm crazy for saying that; but then it is no less crazy then believe Wolf was going be this great thing for Penn State."

Well....it is crazy (aside from the fact that he would probably sell his soul to buy the Governor's Mansion). And one (Corman/Wolf) has absoloutely NOTHING to do with the other....but so be it.

I hope you don't take it the wrong way....because I don't proclaim that ANYONE should be required to care about anything more than skin-deep....and NONE of us have the time or energy top engage deeply in EVERY subject.
But all the stuff you laid out in your previous post....the stuff about the "important things", for most folks - being the "unraveling of the FOOTBALL sanctions"...and that the NCAA was the "bad guy"....:

That is - sorry to say - the reason we are in the spot we are in....and the reason it is still a long shot that things will ever be made right.

And it is certainly not a structure unique to the situation at PSU. As an example, people will piss and moan about stuff like "gas prices"....blame some convenient target (R's or Ds?)....and then move on to having a beer and watching the game......without taking five minutes of thought or research into what is really going on (how many people know what fraction of what they pay "at the pump" is due to government regulation and taxes? Or which state has the HIGHEST governmental tax on gasoline prices? I would bet not one person in 100).
We are - truly - an incredibly lazy electorate. An incredibly intellectually lazy society....truth be told.

Again...no one can "force" folks to engage and invoke critical thinking:
BUT, the scoundrels out there use that fact (that the large majority of folks are truly "non-thinking") to their advantage every day. Non-thinking folks are easy to manipulate through propaganda and emotional ploys. Much to the detriment of the rest of us.
And it's no one's fault but our own.


And with that....time to check out.
I smell the onslaught of a team of circle-jerkers.

 

[LafayetteBear]

They may have some knowledge of the BOT but overall they are not fully aware of it's structure nor do they have a vested interest in fighting to change it. I would say they are all mostly aware that we got screwed, but most believe it was solely the NCAA and not an in house back stabbing.

BMW: Enjoyed your post. Understand where you are coming from. But the above quoted portion, especially the part I bolded and italicized, leaves me curious. How is it even possible that most of your contemporaries believe "it was solely the NCAA and not an in house back stabbing?"

 

[bmw199]

That is - sorry to say - the reason we are in the spot we are in....and the reason it is still a long shot that things will ever be made right.

I do not disagree with this. I think I even said above for right or wrong. It is just the truth.

 

[bmw199]

BMW: Enjoyed your post. Understand where you are coming from. But the above quoted portion, especially the part I bolded and italicized, leaves me curious. How is it even possible that most of your contemporaries believe "it was solely the NCAA and not an in house back stabbing?"

They haven't followed it for crap. Too many players, too complicated a script. Eventually you just throw your hands up and say what time does the tailgate start. I understand it.

 

[towny87]

an incredibly lazy electorate[/B]. An incredibly intellectually lazy society....truth be told.
And with that....time to check out.
I smell the onslaught of a team of circle-jerkers.

You are correct

Let's review who PSU has elected to various positions just solely because of Joe Paterno

Ryan McCombie - best friends with Bruce Heim (leader of The Second Mile) ooops

Adam Taliaferro - As an elected BOT I can't think of anything he did other than abstain on every vote - did he even finish out his term

Anthony Lubrano - well that is just a big oooops

Kathlene Kane - She was voted in specifically to drop the charges against the admins and stick it Corbett - ooops

Tom Wolfe - well at least Corbett is gone

Now Penn Staters will be calling for voting out Kevin Steele as President of the PSU Alumni Association just because he his prosecuting Kane even though Kane hasn't done what Penn Stater's elected her to do to begin with.

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

I'm young but from what I have learned that sounds a lot like 80s foreign policy. The enemy of my enemy type nonsense. That's not how you pick your horse.

Your absolutely right. The one and only reason to support Kane unless you are related to her is if you believe she is innocent.

 

[Bushwood CC]

I believe deep down he wants to "fix" his university, but he also wants to be Governor of this state. He may not be able to attack the old guard until his already in the Gov mansion. And you may think I'm crazy for saying that; but then it is no less crazy then believe Wolf was going be this great thing for Penn State.

While both suffer from wrong place-wrong time. Both could handle/have handled their respective situations better for the university.

Ummmm, yea......all except for the fact that Corman is part of the political hunta you now claim he is trying to "build power" to bring down (e.g., they are the very king-makers who made Corman in the first place!!). Beyond all those tiny facts.....Corman already showed his colors by betraying the Alumni Elected PSU Trustees and deceiving them in regards to what he was doing on the Consent Decree NCAA Case and stabbed them all in the back making them look like fools....all the while protecting his political benefactors and essentially shielding them from their gross malfeasance in regards to their LEGAL FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS to PSU.