Stink...First time I've ever seen this. PATHETIC.
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Great find by Linda...thanks for sharing PSUEng.
So, according to dick bag Rod Erickson, at a town hall meeting on 11/30/2011 when asked if JoePa had reported the 2001 incident to PSU's chief of police, he claims that "I don't think any of us here have any knowledge about the particulars of that..."
These people truly are astounding. So, either Rod and all the other corrupt aholes on the stage with him did ZERO due diligence in the WEEKS following the crap hitting the fan in early November, or they are liars.
Either one makes them look incredibly bad.
Never seen the video, but can not imagine it plays well in the Paterno house. You fired the one true good thing we had and three weeks later can not answer that question. Erickson and the rest will be absolutely raked over the coals by Sollers and Co in due time, but until then crap like that makes me so same angry I'd knock his teeth out if I ever come across him. Will always be sick over what they did to Joe.
I don't feel shame. I felt awkward for a few years, discussing my love for all things Penn State, but I realize now the good came from JVP, and because he invested his life in making it good, I stand with him upholding the mark he set. Success with honor, either get it or get the heck out.
I don't feel shame. I felt awkward for a few years, discussing my love for all things Penn State, but I realize now the good came from JVP, and because he invested his life in making it good, I stand with him upholding the mark he set. Success with honor, either get it or get the heck out.
Howcum every time I see or think about Rodney Erickson I want to burn down the Food Science Building? 
I saw that that video is recirculating......Good!
What a freaking panel......bunch of hypocrites with their mouths full of crap and "phony-sycophant-bootlicker" written all over their faces.
About half of that panel has "moved on"
The guy on the far right - Terry Jones - died a year or so ago
The guy wiping his nose in the middle of the panel moved on to some other University
Pangborn (I think) is the guy immediately to Rodney's left.....he was named Provost - IIRC - replacing Rodney when Rodney was "elevated"......I think he is gone now, but I could be wrong.
Some of the folks who remain......Damon Simms is second man to the left of Rodney.....he is VP of student affairs, or some such thing....
Rod Kirsh - the head fundraiser guy - is on the far right of the screen, second from last on the end....he's still here
And Mady Hayes (something like that) she is in charge of the Branch Campuses to some degree. She is the hag who rides around attached to Barron's hip at all the BOT meetings.
One of the folks on the panel is the head (Provost?) in charge of World Campus (the on-line stuff)
I have said before, as have others, that in the time of her greatest need, Penn State got the worst possible leadership. When we needed a Churchill, we got Garban, Surma, Alexander, Broadhurst, Dambly, Erickson, Frazier, Hintz, Lubert, Masser, Myers, Peetz, Riley, Silvis, Suhey, and their cronies. They were a despicable lot that rushed to judgment and threw out a decent and honorable man. In a crisis, mistakes can be made. Had this loathsome group acknowledged their mistakes and tried to remedy the damage they caused, I think many of us would have been willing to accept it and offer them an olive branch. For the most part, however, they never have and they never will. As a result, I intend to remind people, as appropriate, who they were and what they did, so that their shameful actions will not be forgotten.
Everything you say is true.
I will just add: You underestimate just how vile and loathsome some of these folks were/are.
The ringleaders will never "acknowledge their mistakes"....they don't think they made any MISTAKES. In their minds, they have produced a rousing success.....they have accomplished exactly what they set out to accomplish from amidst this carnage.
4 1/2 years in.....and still they have maintained their smokescreen. They are patting one another on the back.
I couldn't agree more. Except that Surma, Joyner, Suhey didn't make a mistake......what they did initially was well coordinated. Others like Frazier, saw opportunities for looting in the chaos. When JVP died and the BOT truly became lepers, they got even more vindictive, hence the Freeh second draft. I like the word despicable, just don't think it goes far enough to describe this human trash. Even, Judas regretted his treachery.
Here's the thing though....those people you mentioned weren't making mistakes (maybe some of the sheep who rubber stamped everything made a mistake but the exec comm didn't)....everything the BOT exec comm did was a calculated move to shift the focus from TSM (and it's PSU BOT connections)/CC CYS to Joe/PSU Football. They brought in lying louie to solidify that narrative and the media bought it hook line and sinker.
This was a calculated dismantling of the PSU football program and Joe's reputation....just as Vic Surma mentioned in one of his emails to the lettermen years before the crap hit the fan....IMO this email is as good of a smoking gun as you'll see... since he blamed his son's struggles, etc. on Joe he promised he would take down "the rat" (as he affectionately called Joe) sooner or later....and that's exactly what the surma's did. Despicable pieces of shit.
I like to recall the BOT meeting when Franco had the microphone and challenged the turds. As I recall he asked them if firing and humiliating an 84 year old man made them seem powerful.
Every one of those cowards looked at their shoes and their fear was palpable........bullies publicly humbled, if only for a second. Just for that instant, I wished Franco had stepped up and grabbed one by the collar.
Linda is also a big Jim Clemente supporter (as are most on this forum). Turns out Jim Clemente has aligned himself with matt sandusky.
Sorry, but if JC believes (and supports) matt, he has proven that he will believe anyone or anything as long as someone screams child sex abuse and as long as the check clears.
Here's a link to the book on Amazon. It's billed as:
"Undaunted: The True Story Behind the Biggest Scandal in College Football History"
Sorry, but if JC believes (and supports) matt, he has proven that he will believe anyone or anything as long as someone screams child sex abuse and as long as the check clears.
Here's a link to the book on Amazon. It's billed as:
"Undaunted: The True Story Behind the Biggest Scandal in College Football History"
How much would you pay or could be raised to pull his name off the building with his tractor?Howcum every time I see or think about Rodney Erickson I want to burn down the Food Science Building?
I would donate
I can't take credit. I saw this posted earlier by Bob Daman, but I was absolutely disgusted by the way they left this poor woman hang out to dry. When faced with the true pain they had caused for members of our community, they had nothing to offer. Disgusting.
To say that I am a "big supporter" of Jim Clemente would be inaccurate. All I have ever said is that he is a child abuse survivor and a known expert in the field, which I am not. So it would be hugely arrogant for me to suggest that I know more than he does.
"bigLinda is also a big Jim Clemente supporter (as are most on this forum). Turns out Jim Clemente has aligned himself with matt sandusky.
Sorry, but if JC believes (and supports) matt, he has proven that he will believe anyone or anything as long as someone screams child sex abuse and as long as the check clears.
Here's a link to the book on Amazon. It's billed as:
"Undaunted: The True Story Behind the Biggest Scandal in College Football History"
The alternatives are not mutually exclusive.
Interesting how people interpret the speaker's feelings of "shame." Unsurprisingly, most here assume she feels shame about how the BoT handled JoePa's dismissal. A non-PSU Football fan would assume that the shame she expressed related to how the University had failed to stop Sandusky when it had a chance.
And when was that? When MM filed a written statement/report with UPPD so a criminal investigation could get started?? Oh wait.....that NEVER happened!
Since the one and only witness in 2001 refused to make an actual written statement, the next best thing C/S could do (after consulting outside council) was confront JS about his inappropriate late night showering behavior, revoke his guest privileges, and inform his employer and folks with DIRECT control over his access to kids, JR at TSM (since, you know, JS wasn't even working for PSU at the time).
In 1998 PSU had NOTHING to do with CC CYS/DPW/CC DA/TSM dropping the ball on not at least restricting JS's 1:1 access to kids let alone failure to prosecute.
So, again, how exactly did PSU fail to stop JS?
I don't think anyone here is "interpreting the speaker's feelings of shame".....
But whether they are or not, the key point here - which I think EVERYONE is focused on (except for you, perhaps) - is the reaction of the esteemed panelists.
Reactions that, at the time, were SHAMEFUL.....and actions that now - now that we have had a glimpse of what Dickless Erickson knew at that time - are even more SHAMEFUL.
So, aside from being completely off-base.....you're right on target.
Kinda' like being lectured in "Ethics" by the Bloviator.
Why is there no way to remove members of the BOT who fail in their fiduciary responsibilities?
I disagree with one point in your post. I don't think they "rushed to judgement" -- assuming you're referring to a "judgement" with regards to Paterno's involvement and/or guilt. I don't think they made a judgement at all regarding Paterno's involvement and/or guilt. I think they just decided it was the best short-term strategy for themselves to throw him under the bus ASAP, and then deal with the mess that creates later.
And sadly, unless Paterno's lawyers get them, in a way, their strategy worked about as well as it could have been expected by them.
I understood her sentiment to mean that she felt shame that children had been hurt by a PSU community member.
There is.....remember the Lubrano rule?
Interesting because in 1998 when the mother of V6 called Detective Schreffler directly and Schreffler conducted an "internal investigation" that clearly believed Sandusky was guilty of CSA (as evidenced by his referring the case to the Centre County DA and asking for prosecution!), it was the "Friends of Jerry" on the Executive Committee of the BOT and the Academic Executives such as Fraudney Erickson himself (who was "Provost" at the time) who squelched Schreffler's attempts at prosecuting Sandusky via the DA (and Schreffler's boss Harmon, the Chief of Police who had Sandusky's case file reclassified from "criminal" to "administrative" before having it "sealed" to cover-up for Sandusky -- it had to be "criminal" at some point otherwise how could it have been referred to the Centre County DA with a request for prosecution???). Then only 6 months after Schrefflers' "internal investigation" that believed Sandusky guilty of CSA, the EC of the BOT and senior executive ENABLERS of Sandusky then gave him a sweetheart retirement deal that gave him "Emeritus Status" for distinguished service despite not qualifying for it (Fraudney Erickson signed off on the exception so that Sandusky received it. The Emeritus Status is what guaranteed him a LIFETIME OFFICE AND USE OF PSU FACILITIES). The sweetheart retirement deal in 1999 also gave Sandusky's Charity UNLIMITED ACCESS to the campus thereby creating the conditions that led to 2001!!! Not only that, but Paterno had filed written notice telling all the PSU Executives that he was AGAINST the provisions in the sweetheart retirement deal that would give Sandusky and his personal charity, The Second Mile, unlimited access to the Athletic Department's and Football Programs' facilities!!!!
You are such a shill for the very people who clearly covered for and enabled Sandusky and based on being these people's shill you want people to think it was Paterno's fault??? You really are a disgusting human being.
LOL I think we need a "Dandrea Rule"........maybe I'll write up a draft tonight!
According to the evidence we have seen, JVP was the only official at PSU who opposed (in writing) giving Jerry unfettered access to the football facilities.
I think we are in basic agreement. By "rush to judgment", I primarily mean their action in firing Joe, not necessarily the reason for it. I believe those with an anti-Paterno bias fanned the flames and led the lynch mob. I think a lot of the Board members were spineless and were incapable of standing up to the mob leaders so they went along, seeking anonymity in numbers.
Could you also explain why the ACADEMICS in the "College of Health and Human Services" gave Sandusky "honorary degrees" and then even invited him to be the Commencement Speaker in 2010 I believe it was!!! Fraudney Erickson also signed the papers that gave Sandusky "Emeritus Status" in 1999 despite the fact that he DID NOT QUALIFY for the honor!!! This is the "honor" that guaranteed him a "lifetime on campus office" and lifetime access to campus facilities such as the one he was using via the rights gained via "Emeritus Status" on the night MM saw him in February 2001 - go figure that you hypocrite scumbag academics are blaming Paterno when he made it clear that he was against giving Sandusky and his personal charity, TSM, unlimited, UNCONTROLLED and UNMONITORED access to the Football Facilities!?!?
My understanding is that it was Dr. Spanier who recommended emeritus status for Sandusky; Fraudney just signed the papers. My opinion is that all of this happened because no one had any suspicions about his behavior. They were all human.
Coming from you, I consider this a badge of honor.
I agree but also believe that Rod's signature is a MAJOR reason why he was named President after Spanier. He was COMPROMISED and was a marionette of the BOT. Regardless of his personal views, he could be manipulated like one of Jeff Dunham's dummies. Funny that the original choice to succeed Rodney (the "grifter" from SUNY), had the same problem. He was COMPROMISED. That is no coincidence.
I think you are intellectually dishonest with your opinions on Joe's actions regarding Sandusky. Your hollow arguments are those of someone with an agenda or something much worse. You don't own a badge of honor.
This is really edging over into tin foil helmet conspiracy stuff. Erickson got the job after Spanier because he was by far the most obvious candidate. Second in command. Decades at Penn State in positions of progressive responsibility. Liked and respected by the faculty and staff. Who would you have hired in that situation? In a crisis you want someone who knows how the University operates, what buttons to push, not some outsider. Did you want Tom Ridge? Can you name me someone who was a more logical candidate in that time and circumstance than Erickson? I wish Erickson had a stronger voice and made some different decisions, but to suggest that signing Sandusky's emeritus papers at Spanier's behest compromised Erickson to the BoT Cabal seems a helluva stretch.
Are you further suggesting that the BoT knew well in advance that SUNY Upstate Medical University president David Smith was padding his paycheck? Evidence, please. If they wanted a compromised Smith that bad, why didn't the Exec Committee just bury the Isaacson Miller (search firm) 11th hour discovery that Smith was dirty? According to what I'm taught here, the Executive Committee owns total power to shape any narrative of its choosing.
Really? That explains why Sandusky was invited BY THE UNIVERSITY to deliver the Commencement Speech to the "College of Health and Human Services" in 2010? Don't think "they're only human" explains that in the least - this is more than a full year after Sandusky was found guilty by the PA DPW and "indicated" by their judicial process in early 2009 relative to V1 (also a year after the OAG initiated a SWIGJ in mid-2009). I also find this excuse being applied to the EC of the BOT and senior executives of the University, but then this same standard not being applied to the football coach is rather telling -- especially when the football coach was dead against the EC of the BOT and senior executives giving access to the Athletic and Football Facilities to Sandusky and his private children's charity....very telling.
You kick up lots of dust. I will stick to a SINGULAR point. The search firm learned that Smith's paycheck padding was inevitably going to become public and could not be covered up like the transgressions of so many "upstanding" PA citizens. They aborted the mission to make him president because they could not control the media and political shitstorm that was about to occur.
Regarding the SUNY crook, even without his financial shenanigans it would have been an embarrassing hire. His CV did not merit being president of a top tier flagship public university. That search was a complete disaster. There is no defending him even being a finalist.
I know Barron is not liked by many here but he was at least qualified for the position.
It was a farce because they wanted a marionette who could be controlled.
The crook might have been a better hire.
I think Evan is referring to how Rodney signed Sandusky's emeritus status over the objections of Joe Paterno, and then how the bot lied about being informed about Sandusky and not asking a single question.
Well....for what they paid him, they could have gotten an entire school of his relatives.
As for this question that you posed:
"Can you name me someone who was a more logical candidate in that time and circumstance than Erickson"
This guy would have been a better choice....AND he was available....AND he works cheaper:
