As far as the "blowing a golden opportunity"...as long as they're being given it I don't know why anyone cares what they do with it. That's for them to either regret or take advantage of.
Talent Fee at Tennessee
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Well, I was correct to assume you were all about some insane political nonsense. The laborer/non-laborer distinction had NOTHING to do with the "wet market" discussion. And I've never uttered the words "wet market" on this board before this post, so whatever conversations and comments you dreamt up, leave them for the Current Events board where you can spread your crazy all over the place. Now, go enjoy your dinner (bat, I presume?) and then get back to work.
Some college teams are even hiring what amounts to GMs to handle the talent recruiting and allowing the coaches to focus on coaching more.
You’re so ignorant you’ve already demonstrated that you don’t even understand an appeal to authority fallacy. I’m not about to waste my time giving you an education in logic. You say your wife, I believe you affectionately call her Gasbagtits, is a lawyer. Ask her if putting an expert on the stand in a legal case is an appeal to authority fallacy. Dope!
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So you failed at logical fallacies yet again. Hey, Gasbagtits, I was a lawyer, too. Took classes specifically dedicated to the construction and dissection of logical syllogisms even before law school. So, ironically, if you wanted to consult an expert on logical arguments, that'd be me. You poor thing. You're caught in your web of stupidity and logical fallacies.
Maybe they should take that talent fee and put it toward developing legislative practices that bring the many people here lives above the poverty line, lower the need for multi-million dollar jails that they call justice centers, cleaning up abandoned meth houses and lowering the infant mortality rate. Such efforts seem way beyond the reach of the legislative talent here. Volunteers that never show up! Go figure.
Credentialism. i have no idea what you and that guy are arguing about it because I didn't read it but the fact that you're an "expert" doesn't make you right.
Okay, forget the wet market, but the purpose of universities it completely unrelated to running a pro sport. They should just stop. And whoever does run the pro sports should pay the players whatever the market bears.
Well, no wonder you flunked out and now are apparently unemployed since you spend all day running your mouth on a football message board. Having NFL football players rank the ability of their peers is the direct opposite of an appeal to authority fallacy. A third grader would recognize that. Dummy.
Gasbagtits nails it ... I flunked out and became a lawyer. And that all happened just about the same time that Bill O'Brien sunk the Titanic by driving it into the Hindenberg. Speaking of Gasbagtits' literacy issues ...
Relying on the opinion of an "expert" or "authority figure," such as a professional football player, on the topic of football, solely because they are an "expert" or "authority figure," is exactly an example of an appeal to authority fallacy.
In order for this to NOT be the case, you would have had to have provided evidence to support whatever your claim is (or their - the football players - claim is).
But, yes, saying "well, football players say it's true, so it must be" is, 100%, an appeal to authority logical fallacy. It need not be an "expert" or "authority figure" speaking on a topic in which he or she is not considered an "expert" or "authority figure." This was explained to you once before, and you're still not getting it.
This is when you cry about a thesis because words are HARD!
Just because you call a dog a horse doesn’t make it so. There is absolutely nothing fallacious about NFL players rating their peers. Either you are too stupid to understand this basic concept, too embarrassed to admit you’re wrong or just a di@khead who likes to argue. Based on the jackassery you spread on this board nearly every day and the fact that you’re on your tenth user name, I’m going with all three.
I've asked you repeatedly to lay out the relevant logical syllogisms, and you've been unable to do so. There's a reason for this. You don't understand logical fallacies, or logical syllogisms. In other words, you're talking out of your ass, and you're unwilling to admit that you're over your skis.
You are, however, unknowingly correct - there's absolutely nothing fallacious about NFL players rating their peers. No one suggested there was. You don't even seem to understand what's going on. What's logically fallacious is assuming, without more, that this rating is authoritative or even persuasive (i.e. meaningful).
Good lord ... this is basic stuff. Stop posting, and wasting folks' time when you have no friggin clue what you're saying. Take that time, instead, to learn. Learn the basics of logic ... it's an actual thing ... it's not just some series of buzzwords trolls like you throw out on the internet ("logical fallacy! logical fallacy!")
I’m confused how the talent fee is even legal and how it goes directly to the players. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought NIL was was supposed to be separate from the university and that players couldn’t be paid directly from the universities. I get the recruit would be given the contact information for the NIL collective from staff, but from that point forward the any payments come from NIL collectives, donors, or companies. Coaches are obviously involved in the distribution of the money and how much a certain recruit or current player is paid to commit or stay. I think the real spirit of NIL was letting players do commercials or appearances and getting paid as well as making sure they get paid for when someone uses their name, image, or likeness. I believe it goes back to Ed O’Bannon’s image used by the NCAA and him suing to receive compensation. I’m all for players being able to benefit financially from becoming celebrities and signing contracts with Nike, Burger King, or a local car dealership, but forcing fans to pay many of which who can barely afford the tickets is out of control.
Yes, you thought because players rating their peers wasn’t fallacious (i.e. it happened), it meant you didn’t present a logical fallacy. So you were unknowingly correct about something meaningless that was never challenged … but entirely incorrect that you didn’t present a logical fallacy. Pretty simple. Even you should be able to understand (but likely not, sadly).
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First, the "talent fee" is just the Vols raising ticket prices. That's it. You can obviously do that whenever you want, for whatever reason.
Second, the reason for this increased ticket price is to help pay for the impending revenue sharing with athletes ... and that revenue sharing is the result of a settlement which the NCAA hopes to reign in NIL payments. It's an evolving situation. The NCAA is hoping to get more regulation and structure around the NIL payments and collectives that currently fund most of those payments, and then compensate the players directly through NCAA/school revenue, so it's more of a traditional employer/employee structure.
The end result of this will likely be some kind of collective bargaining situation between the NCAA and a player's union to determine just what is everyone's rights and obligations here.
40 Acres and a mule, right? The good people of Tennessee are soooooooo happy you can offer them a solution to all of their problems. You clearly love your neighbors.
Exactly. You were correct about the wrong thing, because you didn't even understand the underlying topic.
The players voted him the best QB ... that is true. That is not a fallacy. You totes nailed that.
But the topic was you using that vote as proof that he was, in fact, the best QB. That is the logical fallacy.
So you were unknowingly correct about a fact that wasn't at issue and incorrect about the topic at hand - the logical fallacy that resulted from your attempted application of that fact.
You poor thing.
I do, it's not the people it's the ass whips in Nashville that are the problem. My wife and I over the past 24 years have given around $700,000 in cash to nonprofits that are helping the people that the dick heads in state government have left behind in a blind effort to load their own pockets with $$$$.
We just wrote a $70,000 check last month in support of the return of music and art to the school district here. I have just been named to the Board of a major nonprofit group tackling many of the gaping social holes left by a government for profit here. I am only one of two non local Tennesseans on the board. I was invited by unanimous approval to sit on this board.
Don't try to put me in some category that do dislikes or looks down on the vast majority of Tennesseans and their circumstances perpetrated by the current garbage in state power here. The members of our nonprofit board hold the state powers that fail their constituents with more disdain than even I do.
Schools are going to be playing players per the settlement
Also see the recent Georgia law. Soon enough programs will pay players for NIL. Commercials, advertising about football tickets, etc
In your pretzel logic I’m unknowingly correct. You should work at Auntie Ann’s. They need pretzel counter boys and you need a job. Win win.
It was only a matter of time. Tennessee to add a 10% “talent fee” to ticket prices next year.
So, instead of “the system” figuring out how to share the billions in revenue, they are just adding more expense to the fans to cover the costs. Got it. 🙄
Vols up ticket costs by 10% to help pay athletes
Tennessee is increasing the cost of tickets for all sports by 10%, with the "talent fee" being used to help pay athletes as part of the revenue-sharing plan.www.espn.com
It’s a smart move. My bet is that it will be the norm for most universities sooner than people think.
we know prices will only go up...what each university calls it...talent fee, student athlete contribution, seat license or some other more imaginative term, will be the modified term
Other things you were correct about: pretzel is spelled with a "z," and that's not a logical fallacy.
And, yet, you still committed an appeal to authority logical fallacy when presenting the player vote for best QB as proof that Lamar Chokeson is the best QB. Poor Gasbagtits. Hey, Bushwood, remember when General Bill O'Brien led the Union troops in the battle at Little BigHorn?
PeePee the multiple bans disbarred Whale shark of the small mind is in a lot of pain right now.
He is one of the 'sharks', his word, that bet against Musk/Twitter/Tesla.
Poor dude is not only a douche, but also a terrible investor.
LdN
You think Chokeson is going to choke for the 3rd weekend in a row? Or will he finally not suck at football this week?
Which will happen first ... Chokeson won't choke, or you'll finally get a logical fallacy determination correct?
Did I just hear Tom Brady say and I quote, “Lamar Jackson is the most productive player in the league?” He must be #unknowinglycorrect.
It’s early, but with the putrid Cowgirls’ defense, it looks like Chokeson will break his choking streak before you have a chance to learn the basics of logical fallacies.
Now Brady says Lamar is “super human.” But you and Lando. Two ants furiously trying to carry that potato chip up the hill. Keep trying, little guy.
You're a walking, talking logical fallacy. Maybe you can dig up Johnny Unitas's skeleton and move his mouth to say "Lamar Chokeson is the bestest!" while you're at it.
Makes perfect sense. Your way past the Best By date on your 10th user name, little guy.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. 269 total yards, 80% completion percentage. As Tom Brady said, the most productive player in the league did it again. But maybe if you close your eyes and click your heels together your wishes might come true.
Hey, be happy - Chokeson narrowly avoided pulling off a Kasparaitis. He could have blown that huge lead and been as embarrassed as you, when you claimed the result of a PSU game meant Bill O'Brien should have never coached again, despite the fact that he wasn't even the coach of PSU during that game.
