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The jury is made up of average joes who probably just heard the headlines and fell for the lawyerspeak. McQueary couldn't coach, we all knew that, college football knew that, but the jury (8 women, 2 psu employees, come on...) just went for it.

"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the world is dumber than them."
 
Look, anyone who doesn't recognize the bot has made it open season on the university is utterly nuts. You commission the Freeh report and you're literally screwed from all sides. You compound that with further decisions by the bot and its not like the university can argue against itself and hope to win.
 
The jury is made up of average joes who probably just heard the headlines and fell for the lawyerspeak. McQueary couldn't coach, we all knew that, college football knew that, but the jury (8 women, 2 psu employees, come on...) just went for it.

"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the world is dumber than them."
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The jury is made up of average joes who probably just heard the headlines and fell for the lawyerspeak. McQueary couldn't coach, we all knew that, college football knew that, but the jury (8 women, 2 psu employees, come on...) just went for it.

"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the world is dumber than them."
Mike wasn't gonna have a job with Joe's successor anyway. I don't think either Bradley or LJ would've gotten the job. I think they were gonna go outside the PSU family.
 
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The problems with civil trial juries is that it ain't their money and if they get a wiff that the defendant has "cash reserves", ......

When it became public that PSU was paying out $100m to victims, it was over for PSU.

In full disclosure I thought MM would get $1.2 or nothing. When the verdict came out I was not shocked and just said to my wife, "we're in Pennsylvania...."
 
Penn State University has endless resources. What they're going to pay McQueary is the rough equivalent of 20 in-state undergrads studying full time here for four years. It amounts to half a busload of kids. When we were told by one of our forum members here that all this money is chump change, he was exactly right. Just this year we had 1,000 more undergrads enroll at PSU Main than last year.

The damage rests solely in reading and hearing about it--endlessly. I'm finished worrying about it because it is inconsequential. Our reputation is trash but it is not effecting the bottom line. This is a business.

I just watched a series on YT about the Brooklyn Dodgers. It was a business decision. The old timers who loved the Dodgers are still angry about it. They loved the Dodgers like we loved PSU, but what they didn't know was that nothing was within their control, and so it is here. Time heals all wounds but there won't be enough time for most of us.
 
Penn State University has endless resources. What they're going to pay McQueary is the rough equivalent of 20 in-state undergrads studying full time here for four years. It amounts to half a busload of kids. When we were told by one of our forum members here that all this money is chump change, he was exactly right. Just this year we had 1,000 more undergrads enroll at PSU Main than last year.

The damage rests solely in reading and hearing about it--endlessly. I'm finished worrying about it because it is inconsequential. Our reputation is trash but it is not effecting the bottom line. This is a business.

I just watched a series on YT about the Brooklyn Dodgers. It was a business decision. The old timers who loved the Dodgers are still angry about it. They loved the Dodgers like we loved PSU, but what they didn't know was that nothing was within their control, and so it is here. Time heals all wounds but there won't be enough time for most of us.
I think your math is off or the cost of education doubled overnight.
 
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Just this year we had 1,000 more undergrads enroll at PSU Main than last year.
Interesting. I know tuition varies but let's say it's $18,000 per year. That's $18 million in extra revenue from the higher enrollment. That'll cover a lot of court settlements.
 
I'm still bothered that he's referred to as a "whistleblower" which, in my mind, holds some status/regard/honor.

Mike is a (you choose): rat bastard, turd, punk, coward, big baby.... and at best, a lousy witness. None of which matches up with my def of a whistleblower. Whistleblowers get bf'd for doing the right thing. This douche is getting PAID for being a lame mfer.

and psu probably won't bother appealing.. just want it over.

This whistleblower thing.. where do I sign u? I need $7 Mil
 
Reserve your judgement till the Judge finalizes the damages! Decision to appeal or settle will be made thereafter. Then you can throw Penn State under the bus, which I am sure some you will continue to do.

Every organization, country, city, corporation ... faces adversity, it takes courage to stick to the basic principles to survive and thrive through tough times.

"We are Penn State, we were, and we always will be."
 
Reserve your judgement till the Judge finalizes the damages! Decision to appeal or settle will be made thereafter. Then you can throw Penn State under the bus, which I am sure some you will continue to do.

Every organization, country, city, corporation ... faces adversity, it takes courage to stick to the basic principles to survive and thrive through tough times.

"We are Penn State, we were, and we always will be."

and the rest of you can continue to throw Mike McQueary under the bus - one of the very few people in this case who actually tried to do something.
 
Never lose sight that the real criminal is JS, and virtually everyone else is simply just trying to keep the media storm off their porch. And honestly, I do have some sympathy for those players who ended up being knowledgeable of what transpired with Sandusky.

It is, no doubt, a tough situation.

But when it comes to dealing with tough situations, the leaders are expected to do better than the underlings (why would they be considered leaders otherwise?). So, BOT is expected to perform better than Joe P, Joe P is expected to perform better than MM, MM is expected to perform better than...and so forth.
 
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and the rest of you can continue to throw Mike McQueary under the bus - one of the very few people in this case who actually tried to do something.[/QUOTE
Yeah, he did something. He left a kid in a shower with a monster. But like you said, he actually tried to do something. He covered his own ass.
 
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The jury is made up of average joes who probably just heard the headlines and fell for the lawyerspeak. McQueary couldn't coach, we all knew that, college football knew that, but the jury (8 women, 2 psu employees, come on...) just went for it.

"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the world is dumber than them."
You may be right. I believe the MM verdict is more a indication of how much the rest of centre county hates PSU An would stick to PSU anyway they can. Most think PSU is the home of lazy wasteful nuts
 
and the rest of you can continue to throw Mike McQueary under the bus - one of the very few people in this case who actually tried to do something.

He did one of two things: (1) he saw something awful but told a watered down version of it to everyone he told, or (2) he didn't see something awful but acted like he did a decade later. You pick. In either instance he belongs firmly under said bus.
 
Reserve your judgement till the Judge finalizes the damages! Decision to appeal or settle will be made thereafter. Then you can throw Penn State under the bus, which I am sure some you will continue to do.

Every organization, country, city, corporation ... faces adversity, it takes courage to stick to the basic principles to survive and thrive through tough times.

"We are Penn State, we were, and we always will be."

Appeal? I thought there are no do-overs.
 
Look at the current election...

Hillary should be in prison, but is allowed to run for president.. that's where our society is!
 
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He did one of two things: (1) he saw something awful but told a watered down version of it to everyone he told, or (2) he didn't see something awful but acted like he did a decade later. You pick. In either instance he belongs firmly under said bus.
3) He imagined something sexual because of course the slapping sounds could only mean sex. Interesting that Mike didn't notice the stool the boy must have been standing on.
 
The jury is made up of average joes who probably just heard the headlines and fell for the lawyerspeak. McQueary couldn't coach, we all knew that, college football knew that, but the jury (8 women, 2 psu employees, come on...) just went for it.

"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the world is dumber than them."

Common sense is not common...neither is common courtesy...
 
Look at the current election...

Hillary should be in prison, but is allowed to run for president.. that's where our society is!
Yeah, and her opponent brags about he commits sexual assault. He's a guy who should be in jail.
 
You may be right. I believe the MM verdict is more a indication of how much the rest of centre county hates PSU An would stick to PSU anyway they can. Most think PSU is the home of lazy wasteful nuts

They hate PSU, they hate the students, they hate. BUT, they love the paycheck, the reduced tuition (PSU employees), they love their nice homes, they love their benefits: hospitalization, vacations, retirement, etc.
 
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and the rest of you can continue to throw Mike McQueary under the bus - one of the very few people in this case who actually tried to do something.

Huh. "... one of the few to do anything". WHAT. He supposedly saw a child being sexually assaulted. What did he do? Ran home to tell Daddy. Told his boss a watered down story. Told his boss's boss a ???? (fill in the blank) story. He changed his story how many times. He came forward when the OAG had him for gambling on football games and sending pornograpy. He did something all right; he RAN when he should have fought. In the military, believe this called (fill in the blank) and he would be branded for life; wait: he has been justly branded. But the PSU haters in Centre County gives him 7+ million dollars, should have been lashes.
 
If Mike wasn't happy with how it was being handled why didn't he call the police at some point later!?

Because when your dad follows up with Gary Schultz, who says that it's being handled and is confidential, you trust what you're being told. When Paterno asks you if you're satisfied, you've been told it's being taken care of, so that's what you repeat.

All of us definitely suffer from a hero complex about what we would do in crises. But time and time again, people do not act rationally in crises because your brain doesn't process it normally.
 
The jury ruled in favor of what we knew all along...the university administration mishandled the information they were given and then scapegoated the football program to deflect blame. McQueary is viewed unfavorably by a lot of people because of the narrative the university helped write...and the jury found that narrative to be WRONG. He deserves money ($7.3 million seems like a lot, but hey).
 
Mike wasn't gonna have a job with Joe's successor anyway. I don't think either Bradley or LJ would've gotten the job. I think they were gonna go outside the PSU family.
Concur--if you look at what Curley had been doing in the five or so years prior--almost all of the new hires had either no connection to PSU or a tentative connection (such as a year as a grad assistant). To his credit, he saw the problem (when most of us, myself included, did not realize that there was a problem and that new blood was a good idea) and addressed it.
 
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