Ha -- they tried to send Armbar, Hoyt, and WeH8 over with me, but that got nixed pretty early in the negotiations.
This year's team ... does it have a focus?
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Ha -- they tried to send Armbar, Hoyt, and WeH8 over with me, but that got nixed pretty early in the negotiations.
If you tell a recruit-- forget about you life long dream of being in the Olympics---your telling them to go elsewhere to wrestle.
If you tell a recruit-- forget about you life long dream of being in the Olympics---your telling them to go elsewhere to wrestle.
Big ten tourney line up
Meredith 125
Roman bravo young 133
N.lee 141
Jared verclearen 149
J.lee 157
Cenzo Joseph 165
Mark hall 174
Aaron Brooks 184
Mike beard 197
Seth nevils hwy
Berge concussion seems more serious and may need to rest until next year, and going with as of jan. 12 the 197 lb who has looked the best . Now I don't know if Lee can make the cut ,but he is the best pedigree option.
Meredith 125
Roman bravo young 133
N.lee 141
Jared verclearen 149
J.lee 157
Cenzo Joseph 165
Mark hall 174
Aaron Brooks 184
Mike beard 197
Seth nevils hwy
Berge concussion seems more serious and may need to rest until next year, and going with as of jan. 12 the 197 lb who has looked the best . Now I don't know if Lee can make the cut ,but he is the best pedigree option.
Joe seem to show some gas tank issues at the S.S., a tough cut may not be in the cards
I hear what you’re saying. You have your opinion, I have mine and we all know the saying about opinions. I’m a fan of NCAA wrestling, not so much for freestyle. I do understand that the kids have aspirations of representing the USA in the Olympics, but I simply don’t like how it can adversely affect the team dynamic. I think most if not all wrestlers who come to PSU is because they want to be on a NCAA Championship contending team. Yes, for some the RTC is also a big factor. Unfortunately, injures such as we suffered could very well jeopardize those kids dreams. I don’t know the answers. It is what it is, but I don’t like it.
No shak because of one match where he didn’t dominate, but found a way to win? Dude has been a grinder for our team for years. I’d like to give him every chance to succeed in his final year.
This is a public forum for discussions related to wrestling. I see no harm in a poster bringing up a topic he/she would like to discus. People should not be afraid to post what is on their minds due to the backlash that may ensue. If all in the room are thinking alike, then......... It is a little odd that the OP has not chimed in since the 1st post.
Correct. It is important to understand that there are different levels of severity of concussions. Brady took a nasty blow, and, quite honestly, if someone told me he’s experiencing things like Sidney Crosby did a few years ago, I would not be surprised. I’d hope to see him ramp up for the postseason in February, but his health is paramount.
Plus, I don't think he is certified at 157 so Joe Lee can't wrestle there no matter what.
Yeah. That’s a seriously quick hook for a guy who has already AA’d at the weight and is coming off a major injury. Patience!
IS THERE A MARRIAGE PROBLEM AT PSU or ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THE OTHER GUYS GETTING MARRIED?!? Seems like all the olympic hopefuls are 'boo'd up.'
Maybe there's a girl feeding Cenzo too much or there's not a girl being passive aggressive each time he walks towards the kitchen?
Based on like the 4 instagrams I've seen of Nick Lee, he's married to the game and Seth Nevills so he can be trusted. For now.
I hear you, but regular season duals are essentially meaningless. The goal, and it's the ONLY goal, is to try and get all our guys as healthy as possible and wrestling their best at NCAAs. Duals are only important in their role in supporting this goal.
FWIW, I don't believe Cael would tolerate the team losing focus; it's just not in his DNA. The team has been brutally hit by injuries. I don't think we'll see Berge again this year, we lost Conel and most importantly Cassar. Shak has just returned from injuries. So I give the coaches great credit for doing as much as possible to keep the team as positive as possible. Hall has definitely stepped up as the team leader and I'm glad to see it.
If it was possible to have a re-do, I'd have sent the team (all those who were available) to the Scuffle. At a minimum it would have provided more clarity to who should start at 125 and 149. The only tournament where we had most of the 125 wrestlers was the Black Knights Tournament and Teske had the best PSU performance (3rd). A repeat at the Scuffle may have prevented his portal decision. Verk and Gardner are very close and the Scuffle tournament could have provided more clarity (Verk did beat Gardner at the Black Knights Tournament 3-2 - again, very close).
We've gone from a consensus pre-season lineup of Teske, RBY, Lee, Verk, Berge, Joseph, Hall, Rasheed, Conel, Cassar, to Meredith, RBY, Lee, Verk, Pipher, Joseph, Hall, Brooks, Rasheed, S. Nevills. That is a lot of change. Don't think today we'll bring home the gold in March, but I'm confident the team has not lost focus and is doing a damn good job of handling the challenges.
If it was possible to have a re-do, I'd have sent the team (all those who were available) to the Scuffle. At a minimum it would have provided more clarity to who should start at 125 and 149. The only tournament where we had most of the 125 wrestlers was the Black Knights Tournament and Teske had the best PSU performance (3rd). A repeat at the Scuffle may have prevented his portal decision. Verk and Gardner are very close and the Scuffle tournament could have provided more clarity (Verk did beat Gardner at the Black Knights Tournament 3-2 - again, very close).
We've gone from a consensus pre-season lineup of Teske, RBY, Lee, Verk, Berge, Joseph, Hall, Rasheed, Conel, Cassar, to Meredith, RBY, Lee, Verk, Pipher, Joseph, Hall, Brooks, Rasheed, S. Nevills. That is a lot of change. Don't think today we'll bring home the gold in March, but I'm confident the team has not lost focus and is doing a damn good job of handling the challenges.
Please define "team dynamic."
Because I've seen zero evidence of any impact to team chemistry. This team appears completely united -- just like the PSU teams that were not in Olympic years.
And the injuries suffered at freestyle events just as easily could've happened in folk matches or in practice. Except in cases of deliberate attempts to injure (cough cough Campolattano vs. McIntosh), they're random.
Also, "most who come to PSU want to be on a NCAA Championship contending team" is a false choice. Mark Hall wanted both. If Cael had said no, Hall would've gone to Ohio State, where Tan Tom had already said yes to Snyder. We would have lost in 2018, and would not be contenders this year. And Hall is hardly alone. All of our AAs and finalist contenders want both.
Facts and logic screw with desired opinions. Stop doing that.
There is no loss of focus. Never will be with this program as long as Cael is running it. But, it’s been a weird year with no big tournament like the SS and trying to accommodate guys who are trying to qualify for the Olympics.
He said we would see a lot of guys and we have.
After 6 duals, they have used 19 wrestlers which ties for the most in the CS era. In 10-11 he used 19 guys in 19 duals! He is down 40% of his preseason starting lineup. Plenty of time to tighten things up but this has been the most adversity CS has faced in his 11 years at PSU.
And they will still finish #1 or #2 in the country which speaks volumes for the level at which this program operates.
He said we would see a lot of guys and we have.
After 6 duals, they have used 19 wrestlers which ties for the most in the CS era. In 10-11 he used 19 guys in 19 duals! He is down 40% of his preseason starting lineup. Plenty of time to tighten things up but this has been the most adversity CS has faced in his 11 years at PSU.
And they will still finish #1 or #2 in the country which speaks volumes for the level at which this program operates.
I would like to see more of Gardner personally, but it hasn't happened yet. I thought Verk and Gardner might each wrestler one of the matches this weekend. Didn't happen, so I listed Verk. Pipher is certified at 149, I'd like to see him get a shot as well.
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