Tiebreaking procedures?
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No reference that I could find in the rulebook. It was discussed a couple years ago, and I remember "# of Bout Victories" as #1. There's some flaws in that measure...anyway, that's what I remember.
Here is what I thought it was: 1. Number of takedowns 2. Number of bonus points 3. Number of pinfalls
Is this correct?
...as I remember there were 10 items used to decide dual meets early on..
... the FIRST one was least number of penalty points...!
...about 30 years ago Penn State and Oklahoma State wrestled to a draw in the Virginia Duals championship match... they went through ALL TEN tiebreakers and were still tied!!!...
... how did they settle it?...
... that's another story...
... the FIRST one was least number of penalty points...!
...about 30 years ago Penn State and Oklahoma State wrestled to a draw in the Virginia Duals championship match... they went through ALL TEN tiebreakers and were still tied!!!...
... how did they settle it?...
... that's another story...
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21 i don't know...But i don't think we need to worry about it !!!! I think with a GREAT fan section in front our wrestlers will take control and win another National Championship !!!!
...as I remember there were 10 items used to decide dual meets early on..
... the FIRST one was least number of penalty points...!
...about 30 years ago Penn State and Oklahoma State wrestled to a draw in the Virginia Duals championship match... they went through ALL TEN tiebreakers and were still tied!!!...
... how did they settle it?...
... that's another story...
I know how they settled it: Thomas Gilman challenged the Oklahoma State wrestling team to a one on one basketball game on the hardwood at Iba Gallagher.
THAT'S how you settle things.
... I believe these are now in order...
...least team flagrant misconduct points...
...least coach misconduct points...
...least team match points for unsportsmanlike conduct...
...most bouts won...
...most falls, forfeits or disqualifications won...
...most tech falls...
...most major decisions...
...most total team points...
...most near fall points...
...most takedown points...
...most reversal points...
...most escape points...
...most stalling call points...
...most RT points...
...least stalling warnings...
...least team flagrant misconduct points...
...least coach misconduct points...
...least team match points for unsportsmanlike conduct...
...most bouts won...
...most falls, forfeits or disqualifications won...
...most tech falls...
...most major decisions...
...most total team points...
...most near fall points...
...most takedown points...
...most reversal points...
...most escape points...
...most stalling call points...
...most RT points...
...least stalling warnings...
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Huge flaws in making bout victories #1 if true. Makes sense in a dual format, but not in a tournament format. That would reward more guys dropping into wrestlebacks
Which is criteria 1, 2, 3, etc? In the event of a flat out points tie?
I'm about 60 % sure the first tiebreaker is number of bonus points.
Agree completely. It's not a complete memory anymore...but what I can tell everyone is that I made contact with the NCAA Wrestling Committee, and bout victories was a criteria...may be wrong, but honestly think he said it was #1. Doesn't matter much...it's never happened before, and won't happen this year...
So, total bout victories is criteria one? Could have sworn I heard Byers say it was takedowns?
...I am sure the team penalty point for flagrant unsportsmanlike conduct (unnecessary roughness, fighting, etc) was the first item on the list...
...and I also think the list changed over the years a few times...
....Oldlion57 would be a good source since he was on the tournament rules appeal committee for a gazillion years...
...and I also think the list changed over the years a few times...
....Oldlion57 would be a good source since he was on the tournament rules appeal committee for a gazillion years...
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I can recall Byers, about 4 years ago, during the tournament, saying that in the event of a tie, PSU would win due to more takedowns. Does anyone have a pdf of the rule book?
What I remember about pinfall is there was
That deaf, dumb and blind kid ...
suplays a mean pinfall
I'm really sure you're a great guy but sometimes you come off as being creepy. There's nothing wrong with being an excited fan and I for one appreciate your enthusiasm for the program but sometimes I don't know about you. It seems you're trying to put yourself right in the middle of what Cael is building here. Like in your mind, when they win you fantasize that you're a big part of that success.
I'm only saying that because of the things you tell us. You're hanging around the wrestling room all the time? Stalking the place to get inside information and get your eyes on the boys away from matches and tournsments. What grown man does that? I'm willing to bet none of the parents of these kids do that let alone a fan. I'm sorry but it just all seems so weird. Take what you said above...."I think with a GREAT fan section in front our wrestlers will take control and win another National"...see what I mean? It's as if you crave to be recognized as a huge part of the teams success.
If what you say is true and you are indeed this involved I'd really hate to see what would happen if you were ever told you weren't allowed around the place anymore. The persona you have here leads me to believe you'd hurt yourself. Or he'll even worse youd show up at practice and go ballistic.
Hey, you and spyker seem to be on the same page a lot of times. I was curious, do you know him? I mean have you met him outside of this board? Actually, that question goes out to anyone reading this. As tight as he is with Cael and the program surely a few of you have met and talked to him. I'm just curious what he's like out in the real world.... lol
Not sure what you mean about "on the same page". If by "on the same page" you actually mean WILL NOT PILE ON HIM LIKE SOME OF THE SHEEP on this board, then sure, I suppose I am "on the same page".
I don't pile on. I defend myself, and I have a bunch of haters, but I don't pile on anyone else just because a few others on here pile on. For reference, check out Dunkej's thoughts on Spyker: He also does not pile on Spyker, and that can be proven by checking his posts on the matter.
Ok, here is what I gathered so far...
Tiebreaker criteria:
1. Greater number of victories. Crap, this favors Oklahoma State.
2. Total falls and tech falls. This goes in our favor.
3. Total match points. Also, us.
4. First takedown.
So, in the event of a tie, whoever wins the most bouts gets it, unless that is a tie, then it goes to us, basically, for total falls and tech falls.
Tiebreaker criteria:
1. Greater number of victories. Crap, this favors Oklahoma State.
2. Total falls and tech falls. This goes in our favor.
3. Total match points. Also, us.
4. First takedown.
So, in the event of a tie, whoever wins the most bouts gets it, unless that is a tie, then it goes to us, basically, for total falls and tech falls.
In terms of a tie in a tournament? Saw the trophy in half, and declare both teams champs. Just like Big Ten's two years ago.
My post doesn't say that with absolute certainty. Read it again.
I will try to find out, though...so give me time.
This is for breaking ties in a Dual Meet or Team Advancement Tournament. There is nothing in the current rule book on breaking a tie score at the NCAA championship.
You have 14 posts in a 32 post thread about ties. At least you haven't challenged anyone to a fistfight in this thread.
Who F cares ? There won't be a tie.
Quit killing bandwidth.
