arms race just got really lit
https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...er-rule-eliminates-permission-contact-process
https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...er-rule-eliminates-permission-contact-process
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This is one of those things that should be a positive for the student-athlete. To keep it clean coaches caught tampering should be hit hard. Like a year suspension.While my gut reaction says this is probably a net positive for the students, coaches will find a way to circumvent the 2 day waiting period. Athletes will get poached, then notify their coaches of desire to transfer, and then be contacted on the record.
Tim Beckman wonders why the NCAA took so long to pass this.
Unintended consequences on the way.
Good for the kids clearly, very bad for marginal programs with breakout atheletes that might want a piece if the big time. I suspect the mid-teir programs will get poached or at least the best kids will actively seek better offers. Can you imagine a wrestling program like PSU with a gap at any weight class and no recruits in the funnel? I can see where kids from all over may want to be a part of such a great program. Surriano pulls his shenanigans, no problem someone ok nnthe depth chart from Iowa, OSU, tOSU, Michigan,... Might see the grass is greener with no penalty for doing so.
On balance as the dust settles I feel quite confident you will see more kids moving upward to top tier programs than the other direction.
arms race just got really lit
https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...er-rule-eliminates-permission-contact-process
Suddenly we have free agency in college sports.
Uh, the piece of the bigtime comes after college. Plenty of mid tier program kids get those chances across all revenue sports.Don't understand this point of view at all. Why would you want to stop a breakout athlete who wants a piece of the big time? Just like in life, prove yourself and step up in class. If a kid wants something else, he should be free to pursue it. Just as the coaches are.
The payoff for small or marginal programs that "discover" these kids is the benefit they receive when the kids are there. Do it enough times and the program itself raises it's level. Not everyone is going to transfer - there is often much more to it than just level of competition.
This rule change is tremendous because it also raises the level of misconduct for tampering. The impetus is on the athlete and if the athlete really wants more, why keep him against his will.
Cool. Two questions:arms race just got really lit
https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...er-rule-eliminates-permission-contact-process
PD3 was ahead of his time.10 transfers in 5 years?
The NCAA release specifies football only. It is possible that this is in the works for other sports but that just addresses football.New redshirt rule apply to wrestling? Like maybe Berge could have wrestled against tOSU last year and kept his redshirt?
Call Rutgers' athletic department. Oh wait never mind. They just visit others' wrestling rooms.How does the public get access to the national transfer database?
If a student-athlete should sit a year then so should an under contract coach.i'm all for letting kids transfer to their hearts content, but sit a year. if they're transferring for scholastic reasons then they shouldn't mind sitting. if they're transferring for sports reasons, make there be some penalty for not honoring a commitment. i'm for penalizing coaches for leaving before their contracts are up too, but that should be written into the contract when they sign it.
If a student-athlete should sit a year then so should an under contract coach.
If a coach is not required to sit, then the student-athlete should not be.
This is an NCAA Rule change, so it affects far more than the 1.4% of ALL Division 1 athletes that wrestle. Frankly, I wonder how it will affect other sports too.
There's several good points above already, so they're not worth repeating. My thoughts, while it's way early, are;
1) We will likely see more transfers short term, then it will level out, and the "system" will settle into some transfer level that is lower than most think.
2) Many student-athlete's still select a school based on location, and going further away, where Mom and Dad can't see competitions as often, or it's a hardship in other ways, is a factor.
3) Barring an "event" at a school where the transfer departures or arrivals are high, such as a coaching change, NCAA violations, etc., it will level out. A significant event may cause a mass transfer situation.
4) We could see a school's fortunes change overnight. Imagine friends (be they same school, different schools, whatever) get together and decide to transfer together, to a common school. The one element that may minimize this is the scholarship monies available.
5) Level II Violations can be significant, and should curb all (most?) impropriety. The Mitigation Violation Level doesn't carry much of a penalty, but more serious, or repeat offenses do, especially when willful. Aggravation and Standard Violation Levels can affect a school's competition schedule, # of scholarships, restrict recruiting, or get coaches/administrators suspended, not to mention there's normally a financial penalty. Those are unlikely, but do carry more weight than previous tampering violations.
This would eliminate the typical partial release -- we'll release you only out of conference and if they're not on our schedule next year.Does this really change anything in D1 wrestling? I was under the impression most programs granted transfer requests in recent years. Are there examples of kids in the last 2-3 years who were denied a release?
New redshirt rule apply to wrestling? Like maybe Berge could have wrestled against tOSU last year and kept his redshirt?
Why exactly is that?I feel dumber for having read that
If a student-athlete should sit a year then so should an under contract coach.
If a coach is not required to sit, then the student-athlete should not be.
except for a coach it's literally a job. for the student athlete, there's at least the pretense that they are in school primarily to learn.
But aren't students allowed to change schools if they want to. Why are student athletes restricted when the rest of the student body is not?
That's true up to a point. But good luck with a transfer once you've accumulated too many credits -- the new school will accept only some of the credits, and you'll wind up repeating at least a full year, maybe more.But aren't students allowed to change schools if they want to. Why are student athletes restricted when the rest of the student body is not?
It's a job is nothing more than a rationalization to justify unequal treatment. The rules for adults are always different than rules for either kids or people transitioning from kid to adult.except for a coach it's literally a job. for the student athlete, there's at least the pretense that they are in school primarily to learn.