Tom Ryan discusses recruiting ...
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Good find. Ryan's philosophy seems very similar to Cael's -- though their applications are a little different. They are drawn to several common recruits (Taylor, Jordan, Snyder, Hayes, Hall, Lee, etc.).
I got a kick out of Ryan not explicitly saying he's after Spencer Lee, but saying a 2017 lightweight (to shirt and then backfill 125 for Tomasello after 2018) is his ideal scenario. Not foolin' us, coach.
I got a kick out of Ryan not explicitly saying he's after Spencer Lee, but saying a 2017 lightweight (to shirt and then backfill 125 for Tomasello after 2018) is his ideal scenario. Not foolin' us, coach.
That was a good read. Nice to have a head coach talk about recruiting, even in general terms, without treating the topic like a state secret.
Hilarious. Can't talk about their ability but mentions two specific highly rated recruits, and oh by the way some others too.
Cool that he mentions Hall before the kid that has already committed too. Priorities I guess?
Actually, I was amused by his choice of discussing but not discussing Spencer Lee, instead of the concrete example on his current roster: Kenny Courts graduating this year, and Myles Martin shirting as a true FR with the intent of stepping in next year.
Many college coaches, including other sports, won't even say a kid's name for fear that doing so could be construed as a comment on their talent. As in they are so good, we are recruiting them. Over the years I've heard our basketball coaches on their radio show when asked about a specific player, all they would say is something along the lines of "We are aware of that player." Not even saying if they are recruiting them.
One time a guy called into to Jerry Dunn's show and said that he heard that Jerry was at Germantown Academy to talk to Ryan Ayers. (Randy Ayers; son, who went to Notre Dame) All Jerry would say was that he was in Southeast Pennsylvania recently.
I'm guessing that Since Ryan went into specifics about their situation at 125 earlier in the interview (The ideal situation is we get a 125 in the class of 2017, he’ll redshirt under Nathan. Nathan graduates and the guy will step into the lineup with a year of college wrestling experience.) he felt that mentioning Spencer Lee by name might be considered to be commenting on his talent. As in Spencer Lee is good enough to start after a red shirt year.
The NCAA rules have become so absurdly complex. They really should be scrapped and rewritten from scratch.
One time a guy called into to Jerry Dunn's show and said that he heard that Jerry was at Germantown Academy to talk to Ryan Ayers. (Randy Ayers; son, who went to Notre Dame) All Jerry would say was that he was in Southeast Pennsylvania recently.
I'm guessing that Since Ryan went into specifics about their situation at 125 earlier in the interview (The ideal situation is we get a 125 in the class of 2017, he’ll redshirt under Nathan. Nathan graduates and the guy will step into the lineup with a year of college wrestling experience.) he felt that mentioning Spencer Lee by name might be considered to be commenting on his talent. As in Spencer Lee is good enough to start after a red shirt year.
The NCAA rules have become so absurdly complex. They really should be scrapped and rewritten from scratch.
I'm guessing that you guys are looking too far into his comments. Although I'm sure he's recruiting Lee I'm not so sure his comments were specific to Lee. As he said ideally he would get a 125 from the class of 2017 because of the reasons he stated regarding redshirting/graduating. If he doesn't get Lee he would still like a 125 from that class to step in for NaTo.
Here's the rule...
13.10.2.1 Comments Before Commitment. Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National Letter of Intent or an institution’s written offer of admission and/or financial aid or before the institution receives his or her financial deposit in response to its offer of admission, a member institution may comment publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete. The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete’s ability or the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution’s team; further, the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete committing to or signing with that institution.
13.10.2.1 Comments Before Commitment. Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National Letter of Intent or an institution’s written offer of admission and/or financial aid or before the institution receives his or her financial deposit in response to its offer of admission, a member institution may comment publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete. The institution may not comment generally about the prospective student-athlete’s ability or the contribution that the prospective student-athlete might make to the institution’s team; further, the institution is precluded from commenting in any manner as to the likelihood of the prospective student-athlete committing to or signing with that institution.
manatree, back when Roy Williams was coaching at Kansas, JaRon Rush had committed during the summer, but his mother did not let him sign in the fall signing period. At one point, on a radio show, Williams said (surprisingly to just about everybody) something along the lines of "we are only allowed to comment on whether or not we are recruiting this player. I'm denying. We are not recruiting JaRon Rush." (It was rumored that Williams had committed violations minor enough that the only punishment was that he was required to stop recruiting Rush, but frankly, the only person who knows that answer, in all likelihood, is Roy Williams. I only remember this because, in high school, I did a paper on the circus known as high school basketball, and this scenario was specifically mentioned in "Sole Influence" by Dan Wetzel.)
Basketball has its perks...http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/13/article-2362665-1ACC5BB9000005DC-290_306x841.jpg
