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tOSU commit Maddox Shaw

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What’s your guys opinion on this P.A kid the Bucks just landed along with Bouzakis?

I know he’s a JR and #2 nationally at 138, just curious if anyone knows where he projects etc at the next level.

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Probably 149, but don't rule out growth since his brother wrestles 197 for North Carolina. (Though Max was always much bigger, IIRC was 170-195 his last 3 years of HS.)

He's very good. Super 32 champ, Fargo AA. Finished 3-2-1 at Hershey, losses to Perry 3-1 SV and Simcox 1-0. His only loss this year was again 1-0 to Simcox (who won states over Manville 1 weight up from Shaw).

He does get into lower-scoring matches against better opponents -- he has several 1-0 and 1-takedown matches vs. state placers (besides Simcox). He wins more than his share of those, so he's battle tested. But he'll need to find more offense in college. That's not uncommon.

Bottom line, great pickup, Ohio State should be very happy with this.
 
Thank you Jefe, that was fantastic.
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Probably 149, but don't rule out growth since his brother wrestles 197 for North Carolina. (Though Max was always much bigger, IIRC was 170-195 his last 3 years of HS.)

He's very good. Super 32 champ, Fargo AA. Finished 3-2-1 at Hershey, losses to Perry 3-1 SV and Simcox 1-0. His only loss this year was again 1-0 to Simcox (who won states over Manville 1 weight up from Shaw).

He does get into lower-scoring matches against better opponents -- he has several 1-0 and 1-takedown matches vs. state placers (besides Simcox). He wins more than his share of those, so he's battle tested. But he'll need to find more offense in college. That's not uncommon.

Bottom line, great pickup, Ohio State should be very happy with this.
Great break down, Shaw is a winner. I watched him at PIAA and Powerade this year. We need to keep tan Tom out of PA. He is getting too many pa wrestlers. He must be trying to mimic Iowa a few years ago with the pa pipeline. That seemed to work for them. They want second place bad
 
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Great break down, Shaw is a winner. I watched him at PIAA and Powerade this year. We need to keep tan Tom out of PA. He is getting too many pa wrestlers. He must be trying to mimic Iowa a few years ago with the pa pipeline. That seemed to work for them. They want second place bad
PSU is doing its share. The other PA programs need to step up to keep Ryan out.

Honestly, after we landed Duke, we could've gotten nobody from PA 2025 and been OK. Still got Desmond and Perry and Cunningham.

In the meantime, Flynn is doing a better job of recruiting PA than Pitt and Lehigh are. So are a bunch of other schools.
 
Great break down, Shaw is a winner. I watched him at PIAA and Powerade this year. We need to keep tan Tom out of PA. He is getting too many pa wrestlers. He must be trying to mimic Iowa a few years ago with the pa pipeline. That seemed to work for them. They want second place bad
Nothing we can do to keep Tom out of PA since we take a national approach with filling our lineup and creating a jam at their weights. If Iowa seemingly doesn't want to recruit PA anymore then hard to argue Ohio State isn't the best option (VT, Rutgers, NC State obviously frequently get kids as well)

I know Cael tries to pitch PA hammers to take a chance (especially with In State tuition and NIL being allowed) at joining PSU but hard to see that pitch working with some kids like Lawrence, Harer and Shaw.
 
Pitt in the WPIAL and Lehigh in the Lehigh Valley should be top ten every year. But they do a terrible job keeping kids home
 
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Pitt in the WPIAL and Lehigh in the Lehigh Valley should be top ten every year. But they do a terrible job keeping kids home
This is a much better answer. While it would be nice for Lock Havens and Clarions and Edinboros of the world to bring in the top PA recruits, Pitt, Lehigh, and Penn are schools with a little more in the way of resources who are not taking advantage of the riches in their back yard.
 
It's somewhat mindblowing to me that Pitt isn't better than they are. They're a fully funded, good academic school in PA (and the WPIAL) and they wrestlers also have the luxury of earning a high seed from wrestling in the ACC instead of Big Ten or even EIWA or Big 12. They also just had a national champion.
 
Nothing we can do to keep Tom out of PA since we take a national approach with filling our lineup and creating a jam at their weights. If Iowa seemingly doesn't want to recruit PA anymore then hard to argue Ohio State isn't the best option (VT, Rutgers, NC State obviously frequently get kids as well)

I know Cael tries to pitch PA hammers to take a chance (especially with In State tuition and NIL being allowed) at joining PSU but hard to see that pitch working with some kids like Lawrence, Harer and Shaw.
Ohio State recruits nationally too, which means they're gonna get some PA kids. More than Iowa or OKST simply due to proximity.

Most of their PA commits have been where we had equivalent or better options with multiple years remaining at the same weight.

For example: we got Duke 2025 and Sealey 2024, not concerned about Bouzakis 2025.

Sasso and Nic Bouzakis are offhand the only exceptions to that in the past 10 years.

That's gonna be the norm until other programs do a better job.
 
It's somewhat mindblowing to me that Pitt isn't better than they are. They're a fully funded, good academic school in PA (and the WPIAL) and they wrestlers also have the luxury of earning a high seed from wrestling in the ACC instead of Big Ten or even EIWA or Big 12. They also just had a national champion.
Pitt was the epitome of schools that for decades thought they were competing yet had no idea how far behind they were falling.

When Gavin was hired, the Pitt Wrestling Club was not an RTC (maybe by name but not functionally). No resident athletes. It was a youth program.

Its wrestling room was worse still. And the donor base was smaller, less engaged, and fragmented with no clear unifying vision.

Then there was the Midlands hooker episode, and the coaching search fiasco where they got lucky with Gavin, but only after repeatedly beclowning themselves even worse than the hooker incident.

Gavin has worked hard to improve that, but he has to overcome a lot of inertia while other programs like Ohio State got serious sooner.
 
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Not to mention lock haven. I would love to see them pick up some.studs and return to the good all days. So much potential right in the middle of the state
How much of their (Clarion, Edinboro, Lock Haven, etc) struggles are due to disinterest from school admin. That, plus overall struggles of the PA state schools.
 
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How much of their (Clarion, Edinboro, Lock Haven, etc) struggles are due to disinterest from school admin. That, plus overall struggles of the PA state schools.
Lock Haven would've benefited from school admin disinterest back in the Sharon Taylor days.

But today, the schools have to worry about surviving and less about athletics.

Also, the PSAC schools generally don't have big-hitter donors that B10 and Ivy schools do.
 
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