Football Tyler Bowen to Ohio State as Buckeyes new O-Line coach
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So he goes from coordinator to position coach. Isn't that supposed to work the other way?
Yes, but he is also going from VT to OSU. Isn't that supposed to work the other way?
I just don't understand stepping away from a position that is one step away from being a head coach to become a position coach; he most likely isn't going to be hired as a head coach from an offensive line coach, but maybe he has no desire to become a head coach. I guess that tells you how far VT has fallen in the college football world; they've basically become another mediocre to below average ACC program similar to Pitt and Wake.
It depends on what OSU is willing to pay him to become their OL coach..
According to USA Today, Bowen was making $875,000 as the OC for VT.
VT fans have wanted to fire him for about 2.5 years.
The whole staff has one foot out the door.
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tOSU is a much more visible position than OC of a struggling VT team. Two years at tOSU and he'll get a DC job at a mid-major (OK State or Wash St. class team). From there is is MAC. From there a major position.
He may make more money at tOSU as a position coach than DC at VT, too.
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They had double digit wins in 14 of 121 seasons, so I don't think they were ever a "powerhouse". And if Pry doesn't do something in the next year or 2, they will probably go in a different direction. Just because you don't like Ohio State that doesn't mean that being their position coach, potentially for more pay than a coordinator at other schools, isn't career advancement.
That's just another indication about how this sport really is becoming the haves and the have nots; it just seems that programs like VT aren't that much more relevant anymore in the national picture than a good MAC school.
My opinion about this move has nothing to do with my feelings towards OSU; in fact, I have a very grudging respect for how successful their program has been since Mayer took over. Obviously, they were able to lure a head coach at what was to be a Big 10 school to become their offensive co-ordinator last season, so this type of move isn't unpredecented. I think this move says more about how irrelevant the majority of ACC schools now are, and how this sport is going to be dominated almost solely by Big 10 and SEC schools, which I don't know iis great for the sport in general; it's going to create a lot of apathyfor people who support the have nots.
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For OSU, it appears to be a good hire. A young guy with a wealth of recruiting, and coaching experience. He also played OL. It is hard to coach something if one has not done it themselves.
I dont feel like this is complicated if you follow football coaching at all. Nobody is banging Tyler Bowen's door down to be their OC much less a head coach, so what does he do.....he takes a step back in title(probably not money) and becomes a position coach at the top program in the country. Give it 2 years, he'll get another shot at OC or HC. In college football, sometimes you step back to then step up again, see Alabama recent string of OC's to include BoB and Sark. Pry is almost assuredly out on his ass next year and let's not act like their offense has been any good. So unemployed OC is way worse than position coach for the national championship program. Plus he's 35, he isn't starting over in the twilight of his career.
If the name sounds familiar, Bowen coached at Penn State.
- Tight ends coach
- Penn State (2014)
Graduate assistant - Fordham (2015)
Offensive line coach - Fordham (2016)
Offensive coordinator & offensive line coach - Maryland (2017)
Offensive line coach - Penn State (2018–2019)
Tight ends coach & offensive recruiting coordinator - Penn State (2019)
Interim offensive coordinator - Penn State (2020)
Co-offensive coordinator, offensive recruiting coordinator & tight ends coach
So, first you had the college he left incorrect (UVA instead of VT), then you called non mid-majors mid-majors (MAC is mid-major), then you said he's going to be a DC ... even though he was an OC and is now an O-Line coach, then you said he's going to go from OkSt-level to MAC (so a demotion, essentially).
I'd just delete this mess if I were you.
So while I agree with the title demotion concerns- the few times I've watched Red Neck Tech they have struggled offensively. They had picked up a Rutgers RB from Coatesville in the Portal who was stuck behind Monangai and their qb play is subpar. Maybe the Jimmies and Joe's just are not there to coach up?
It is likely that Pry and his whole staff is on the plank- but at least give Brett credit for sticking with his guys rather than firing them to buy himself more time.
It would be interesting to know if Bowen was the one looking or if OSU was the one poaching- but the result is it takes two.
Hartline's promotion probably set Bowen's star rising in that he is an experienced and versatile mind on offense who will likely help Hartline's growth curve whilst Day still has control of the playcalling.
I'd assume that the pay is at least equivalent or more- so the title means little if he is still building his brand- and he may be getting out of Dodge just ahead of the reaper.
For us- a bright young former PSU coach with regional recruiting ties going to tOSU cannot help us- but good for the young man. I'll take Knowles thank you.
BTW- before anyone takes faux offense to the Red Neck comment- I was born in Western Virginia and have been a closeted Hokies and Hoos fan my whole life. Kevin Jones' antics killed the Gobblers for me for awhile- but I have been rooting for our former staff.
My dad worked for a company that had dozens of factories across the country including maybe 8 in the Commonwealth of VA. I had no family ties there at all. We moved when I was 3 and then got transferred a few more times in Ohio/Pa until we ended up in SEPA and my pops got a North American director post.
Near his death my Dad said that if he had it to do over again he would've taken a promotion to manage The Radford Aresenal and stayed down South. The quality of life and stability coupled with no corporate travel would've been a better family lifestyle as he missed a lot of time at home.
So yes- I was born a Rebel to Yankee parents- but use the term Red Neck lovingly! ❤️
It is likely that Pry and his whole staff is on the plank- but at least give Brett credit for sticking with his guys rather than firing them to buy himself more time.
It would be interesting to know if Bowen was the one looking or if OSU was the one poaching- but the result is it takes two.
Hartline's promotion probably set Bowen's star rising in that he is an experienced and versatile mind on offense who will likely help Hartline's growth curve whilst Day still has control of the playcalling.
I'd assume that the pay is at least equivalent or more- so the title means little if he is still building his brand- and he may be getting out of Dodge just ahead of the reaper.
For us- a bright young former PSU coach with regional recruiting ties going to tOSU cannot help us- but good for the young man. I'll take Knowles thank you.
BTW- before anyone takes faux offense to the Red Neck comment- I was born in Western Virginia and have been a closeted Hokies and Hoos fan my whole life. Kevin Jones' antics killed the Gobblers for me for awhile- but I have been rooting for our former staff.
My dad worked for a company that had dozens of factories across the country including maybe 8 in the Commonwealth of VA. I had no family ties there at all. We moved when I was 3 and then got transferred a few more times in Ohio/Pa until we ended up in SEPA and my pops got a North American director post.
Near his death my Dad said that if he had it to do over again he would've taken a promotion to manage The Radford Aresenal and stayed down South. The quality of life and stability coupled with no corporate travel would've been a better family lifestyle as he missed a lot of time at home.
So yes- I was born a Rebel to Yankee parents- but use the term Red Neck lovingly! ❤️
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