Typical NCAA Nonsense. We're Not Cancelling, But We Might.
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Wouldn't that just be the Hawk's luck. They finally get the perfect storm to a team title and it get's cancelled. I sure hope it does not come to that.
Just like my White Sox in 1994 when they cancelled the World Series.
It almost makes no sense to allow these events to happen with fans in attendance.. several states are banning any events with more than 1000 people from happening.. not sure how the NCAA justifies allowing a national event to occur bringing fans from around the country, including higher hit areas... all to be thrown together in tight seating indoors..
If everybody stays home all the time, is there going to be a baby boom?
As long as wrestlers wash their hands and don't touch their face they should be ok.
And don’t touch other people.As long as wrestlers wash their hands and don't touch their face they should be ok.
I am almost resigned to nationals happening without fans.
I just saw on Craigslist that the NCAA is recruiting Dungeons and Dragon dungeon masters. They are planning to wrestle the matches virtually, online, using many-sided dice to determine whether a shot results in a takedown etc.
Nerd Alert!I just saw on Craigslist that the NCAA is recruiting Dungeons and Dragon dungeon masters. They are planning to wrestle the matches virtually, online, using many-sided dice to determine whether a shot results in a takedown etc.
Haha Me and my wife talked about this same thing this morning. If we ended up on a 14 day quarantine together we probably wouldn't make it.Or a divorce boom?
To be honest, I never would have guessed you were married since your profile picture is "Up" based lmao. Good stuff.
Getting ready for the 125 lb finals.
I just saw on Craigslist that the NCAA is recruiting Dungeons and Dragon dungeon masters. They are planning to wrestle the matches virtually, online, using many-sided dice to determine whether a shot results in a takedown etc.
If the tournament is converted to some kind of online gaming, our guys have got this. I swear that's mostly what they do in their free time.
Yeah, it makes sense. My immaturity is why we couldn't make it 2 weeks haha
While it is an attempt to slow the progression of the virus, there is little to no science in the parameters of the decisions. That’s why the NCAA is waiting.
What some of the decisions are, however, is action to look good politically and also avoid lawsuits for, perhaps, inaction
Along the lines of the random 1000 (cause no virus gives a rats ass about a gathering of 500. not worth the effort) consider these scenarios.
Coumo has a hotspot in New Rochelle. He calls in the National Guard and shuts down gatherings, schools etc....but you are free to come and go from the zone as you please. (Well....unless you are suspected of having the virus and need to be tested) but if you could tell by looking at someone....we wouldn’t be in this situation.
Or.....Governors declaring states of emergency and restricting.....get this...intrastate travel. Lol. Now the virus is conscious of state borders??
I’m not advocating action, in just saying if you are taking it....Just freaking do it, cause halfway containment of a virus is no containment at all.
What would it mean if she left her shoes on the middle of the bed on the fifteenth day.
There is no containing the virus. There is however, slowing the spread. If the virus unchecked, spreads X per hour and you can somehow slow that to X per 6 hours you have given yourself 6 times as much time to treat those infected and 6 times as much time to find a pharmacologic response.
So if you draw the line at a gathering of 1000 or more, it isn't because a gathering of 500 is necessarily safer. If someone in the 500 or 1000 have the virus, then when that crowd disperses more are going to have it and the spread is accelerated. The group of 500 is half as likely as the 1000 to have a carrier though.
Slow the spread, give yourself longer to respond appropriately. All everything is, is an effort to drag it out until eventually a solution presents itself.
All the talk of political this or that diminishes the real threat currently presented. Besides all that, I would much rather over react to the threat and then heave a relief sigh when the all clear whistle blows versus suffering through the regret of under reaction.
I keep thinking about the movie Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman. The time to stop large events is now, months from now it will be to late and be deemed necessary. Now it seems silly to some but it is meant to buy us some time to prepare and figure this out.
I don't know what the NCAA should have said that would satisfy the OP given how tenuous event planning suddenly is across the country. It's definitely not "typical nonsense" though, because little about this is typical.
In New Rochelle 100 people who've contracted it can trace their contracting it to a single person over a few days. At an event with 45k people a single carrier has the potential to cause a ton of damage.
My guess is that, given how things are trending with respect to discouragements of large gatherings by state health bodies, the closures of colleges (many who are NCAA members), and the sharp uptick in cases (which numbers should rise as testing increases), they'll either cancel it entirely or hold it in the stadium (because where else would they hold it on such short notice) without crowds. That's just speculation on my part though. But given how many moving pieces are involved, they're going to have to decide soon.
In New Rochelle 100 people who've contracted it can trace their contracting it to a single person over a few days. At an event with 45k people a single carrier has the potential to cause a ton of damage.
My guess is that, given how things are trending with respect to discouragements of large gatherings by state health bodies, the closures of colleges (many who are NCAA members), and the sharp uptick in cases (which numbers should rise as testing increases), they'll either cancel it entirely or hold it in the stadium (because where else would they hold it on such short notice) without crowds. That's just speculation on my part though. But given how many moving pieces are involved, they're going to have to decide soon.
Basketball may be their breadwinner this time of year, but doesn't most of the revenue come from the TV contract and not the fans?
Since ESPN is already set up to broadcast the entire tournament, there should be a way to let everyone see it without risking a big crowd spreading the virus.
78% of revenue (all sports) in fiscal 2019 is from "television and marketing rights fees". 16% is from "championships and NIT tournaments". So championships is much less, but still significant.
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ncaa/finance/2018-19NCAAFin_NCAAFinancials.pdf
Yes, but the ticket revenue is still a huge number. Just wresting is 40K times $300+ so $12M+ and bball is MANY times that number. Overall something in excess of a billion dollars lost.
I think the wrestling tournament is actually more of a serious threat than basketball because you have fans and college athletes (totally uneducated guess is that 50 colleges are represented) coming from every corner of the country in a massive number (more than any of the first round of bball games) AND everyone is going to be in the same building for 3 days straight and around 18 hours. That's a lot different than a 2hr basketball game with 15,000 people rooting for two teams.
I think they need to at least make a definitive decision by tomorrow and give people at least a week to react, cancel hotels, straighten out flights, etc. and also to provide MN businesses that same time frame to prepare.
Agreee, this is first time I am taking my wife. Had gone with my dad many times before. She is excited and will be bummed if cancelled.
The basketball tournament is 66 teams with alumni dispersed across the country, in 13 arenas over 3 weekends.
Hate to say it but following the trends of many schools that are shutting down campuses it's almost a given they will cancel or at least take the crowd out of it.
And Flo to block their view?Maybe they'll at least let media AND photographers in!?
I think that could go either way if they were going to hold it without crowds; maybe they only permit ESPN in, or maybe they permit everyone with media credentials. Without crowds it'll make for some eerie shots in an empty football stadium. I'm planning on going right now, but figure it's a coin flip whether I'll actually be there or not next week.Maybe they'll at least let media AND photographers in!?
My point is that If a policy is enacted....then enact it. 500-1000 is not different when there is a exponential value tied to one incident. Viruses don’t know borders and containment isn’t containment if people are allowed to come and go. Do you know why New Rochelle is in a containment zone? Because 1 guy decided a party was better than quarantine. One guy led all the way to that.
Political, and on what side I don’t care. It is. It’s the I gotta do something mentality. I’ve spent my career in Pharma and biotech including some in virus vectors. These policies can slow the spread but are ineffective if you enact as if half pregnancy is a thing.
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