Typical NCAA Nonsense. We're Not Cancelling, But We Might.

[pawrestlersintn]

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Well, it's Mineo, so I'll wait.

 

[Dwayne_Johnson33]

Well, it's Mineo, so I'll wait.

Speaking of Mineo, how did Wilcke do at Big10's?

 

[District four]

Well, it's Mineo, so I'll wait.

That guy only brings bad news. I would shit myself if he ever posted something positive

 

[Dogwelder]

Without crowds there in person, will they provide tweet-controlled robotic avatars that yell “Stalling” for Hawkeye fans?

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Without crowds there in person, will they provide tweet-controlled robotic avatars that yell “Stalling” for Hawkeye fans?

My Dad and I were talking about this today. At-home, push button controllers linked to the arena speaker system. The more people that press the cheer button, the more a cheer erupts from the crowd. Iowa can have a "He's stalling" button.

 

[Crunched]

 

[Wishiwrestledmore]

This is true. The only way to stop the spread is by canceling all events. They are fools if they think this way will limit the transmission


QUOTE="HOCKEYGOD11, post: 4721867, member: 77873"]It almost makes no sense to allow these events to happen with fans in attendance.. several states are banning any events with more than 1000 people from happening.. not sure how the NCAA justifies allowing a national event to occur bringing fans from around the country, including higher hit areas... all to be thrown together in tight seating indoors..[/QUOTE]

 

[lookleft goright]

There is no containing the virus. There is however, slowing the spread. If the virus unchecked, spreads X per hour and you can somehow slow that to X per 6 hours you have given yourself 6 times as much time to treat those infected and 6 times as much time to find a pharmacologic response.
So if you draw the line at a gathering of 1000 or more, it isn't because a gathering of 500 is necessarily safer. If someone in the 500 or 1000 have the virus, then when that crowd disperses more are going to have it and the spread is accelerated. The group of 500 is half as likely as the 1000 to have a carrier though.

Slow the spread, give yourself longer to respond appropriately. All everything is, is an effort to drag it out until eventually a solution presents itself.

All the talk of political this or that diminishes the real threat currently presented. Besides all that, I would much rather over react to the threat and then heave a relief sigh when the all clear whistle blows versus suffering through the regret of under reaction.

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly.
The elderly are always at risk for these things. Put me in the camp of people who believe this is a lot of hype and hysteria for little or nothing.
If we slow the spread, does that mean it will go on indefinitely? At some point either we become immune to it or it morphs into something else.
The real questions are, do we live in fear at all times? Are we gong to start going thru this every winter? Who gets to determine what we do and where we go? Are we in any way responsible for our health or is it everyone else's responsibility to keep us healthy?

 

[Sullivan]

Without crowds there in person, will they provide tweet-controlled robotic avatars that yell “Stalling” for Hawkeye fans?

You can bet the Brands brothers will still be doing a lot of yelling

 

[Dogwelder]

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly ...

What is your data? Gut feeling?

 

[diggerpup]

What is your data? Gut feeling?

Dunning-Kruger Effect will get plenty of mileage during this virus outbreak.

 

[Conewago]

I keep thinking about the movie Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman. The time to stop large events is now, months from now it will be to late and be deemed necessary. Now it seems silly to some but it is meant to buy us some time to prepare and figure this out.

Emphasis mine.

 

[nerfstate]

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly.
The elderly are always at risk for these things. Put me in the camp of people who believe this is a lot of hype and hysteria for little or nothing.
If we slow the spread, does that mean it will go on indefinitely? At some point either we become immune to it or it morphs into something else.
The real questions are, do we live in fear at all times? Are we gong to start going thru this every winter? Who gets to determine what we do and where we go? Are we in any way responsible for our health or is it everyone else's responsibility to keep us healthy?

There’s a whole profession, requires a masters degree, that seeks to answer these questions using the best available information in science. I suggest looking to them for guidance. It’s called epidemiology. Some of the best work for this organization called the CDC. Check it out.

 

[Chainsawcity]

Well, this sucks. I was planning on pulling a "fake sneeze" prank:

 

[Chainsawcity]

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly.
The elderly are always at risk for these things. Put me in the camp of people who believe this is a lot of hype and hysteria for little or nothing.
If we slow the spread, does that mean it will go on indefinitely? At some point either we become immune to it or it morphs into something else.
The real questions are, do we live in fear at all times? Are we gong to start going thru this every winter? Who gets to determine what we do and where we go? Are we in any way responsible for our health or is it everyone else's responsibility to keep us healthy?

I believe the avg age of those who have died is 80, and the avg age of those hospitalized is 60.

 

[impalanut]

just read a post from an American Ob Gyn in Italy. Their health system is just as good as ours. They are seeing about 5% of the population getting seriously ill and needing ventilators. Since the population of Italy is 16 mil, if 5% of the population got seriously ill that would require 800,000 ventilators. There aren't that many ventilators in the world. Obviously everyone won't be sick at once. However, this is only one country.
As a physician, I understand the demographics and statistics of communicable diseases. Even at the best case scenario, this is a serious problem that should not be taken lightly.
Wash you hands, avoid sick people, don't do dumb stuff, don't hoard the things that the currently sick and their caregivers need.

 

[eddy line]

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly.
The elderly are always at risk for these things. Put me in the camp of people who believe this is a lot of hype and hysteria for little or nothing.
If we slow the spread, does that mean it will go on indefinitely? At some point either we become immune to it or it morphs into something else.
The real questions are, do we live in fear at all times? Are we gong to start going thru this every winter? Who gets to determine what we do and where we go? Are we in any way responsible for our health or is it everyone else's responsibility to keep us healthy?

“How deadly is it?” Somewhere between 10 and 30 times more deadly than the “normal” flu. And the infection rate is at least twice as high. Yet you continue to double down. Even if it’s only the elderly who are at risk, they will tax our healthcare system, pulling critical resources that could be used elsewhere. (BTW, the elderly make up 15% of the US population, some 48 million folks.) The Coronavirus isn’t “little or nothing”. The health and economic ramifications are huge.

 

[Dogwelder]

just read a post from an American Ob Gyn in Italy. Their health system is just as good as ours. They are seeing about 5% of the population getting seriously ill and needing ventilators. Since the population of Italy is 16 mil, if 5% of the population got seriously ill that would require 800,000 ventilators. There aren't that many ventilators in the world. Obviously everyone won't be sick at once. However, this is only one country.
As a physician, I understand the demographics and statistics of communicable diseases. Even at the best case scenario, this is a serious problem that should not be taken lightly.
Wash you hands, avoid sick people, don't do dumb stuff, don't hoard the things that the currently sick and their caregivers need.

So you’re saying I should go to Costco and buy a ventilator?

 

[impalanut]

Buy two, sell the second one for double. Or better yet, rent it out
(sarcasm font in use)

 

[Dogwelder]

“How deadly is it?” Somewhere between 10 and 30 times more deadly than the “normal” flu. And the infection rate is at least twice as high. Yet you continue to double down. Even if it’s only the elderly who are at risk, they will tax our healthcare system, pulling critical resources that could be used elsewhere. (BTW, the elderly make up 15% of the US population, some 48 million folks.) The Coronavirus isn’t “little or nothing”. The health and economic ramifications are huge.

China built 16 new temporary hospitals with 13,000 new beds in very few weeks for one city, Wuhan. I’ve never heard of any country doing something like that for regular flu. That right there tells us the new virus is probably worse than regular flu, even without our having to estimate rates or do math.

 

[amattaro]

If they cancel NCAAs maybe Carl will cancel the Olympics too. Then institute an 11th weight class so Kerk and Cassar can both go next year!

 

[johnstownsteel]

Gobblin over on HR says they will cancel the tourney and is taking bets on it if anyone is interested.

 

[dsites52]

I love the NCAA tournament, a few years ago when the scrapped the four window view I bought tablets specifically for viewing ease. I took all next week off of work so I could get my weekend activities checked off so I had all 3 days free. That said, I would not trade one life, not even Guns, To have the tourney. I hope it flies. I'll be bummed if it doesn't, but I'll understand.

 

[eddy line]

Jazz-Thunder game cancelled because Jazz player Rudy Gobert tested positive for the Coronavirus.

Gobert made a point alright, just not the one he wanted.

According to yahoo! Sports: “The 27-year-old was listed as questionable ahead of the game due to ‘illness,’ just days after the veteran center touched every media member’s microphone and recorder to make a point about the coronavirus. Emmanuel Mudiaywas also listed as questionable due to illness.”

 

[nitlion6]

Basketball may be their breadwinner this time of year, but doesn't most of the revenue come from the TV contract and not the fans?

The NCAA Wrestling Championships are a stand alone 7 figure profit maker for the NCAA.

The TV contract is part of a deal with ESPN to broadcast NCAA championships. There is no extra money via TV specifically tied to wrestling.

 

[nitlion6]

Is there any virus that can be contained? A good question is, how deadly is it? Apparently it barely has an effect on young people. When many people can have the virus and show no signs, I am thinking it is not that deadly.
The elderly are always at risk for these things. Put me in the camp of people who believe this is a lot of hype and hysteria for little or nothing.
If we slow the spread, does that mean it will go on indefinitely? At some point either we become immune to it or it morphs into something else.
The real questions are, do we live in fear at all times? Are we gong to start going thru this every winter? Who gets to determine what we do and where we go? Are we in any way responsible for our health or is it everyone else's responsibility to keep us healthy?

The really cool thing about science and statistics is things are or aren't. Believing the science or math, or disbelieving makes no difference. Things are what they are. If you scientifically study something long enough you gain a better understanding, so prolonging something's impact gives you that time. Thank God decisions are being made based on what's known versus what JoeSmo believes.