I don’t think he lied to Joe. I think all he told him was he saw Jerry in the locker shower with a boy and he was weirded out by it.
I was talking about the date of what he saw.
I don’t think he lied to Joe. I think all he told him was he saw Jerry in the locker shower with a boy and he was weirded out by it.
It doesn't seem very likely that Mike would be able to act distraught and incoherent 6 weeks after the event -- and I believe Joe basically confirmed that Mike remained shook up when Mike spoke to Joe.
On the other hand, none of the board's gumshoes have bothered to check if there was a medical conference in Boston around New Year's. My guess is no. Pretty dumb to have a conference on a Holiday.
pretty sure if you saw someone get raped you would remember the exact date for the rest of your lifeThe date has always been confusing. Not sure how anybody can remember a specific date from ten years earlier unless it was a holiday or something.
- Was actively campaigning with UVA to allow him to start a TSM in Charlottesville
pretty sure if you saw someone get raped you would remember the exact date for the rest of your life
They needed the date to be in 2002 in order to charge Curley and Schultz for failure to report because of the 10 year statute of limitations.They had a full year before indicting JS to confirm the date. McQueary watched Rudy on Friday night. Dranov was in Boston for a conference later that weekend. How hard is that to track down? Unless of course it is all BS
Not immediately, I recall that being mentioned in researching some old reports of the UVA HC search. Reports had Jim Caldwell as his potential OC with Al Golden his likely DC, if he took the job.Do you have a reference for that? I think you're right but I don't recall where I've seen it.
I was talking about the date of what he saw.
Not immediately, I recall that being mentioned in researching some old reports of the UVA HC search. Reports had Jim Caldwell as his potential OC with Al Golden his likely DC, if he took the job.
To be fair, wasn’t the 1998 investigation done by the Centre County DA as opposed to the PA attorney general...But the OAG did investigate Jerry in 1998 and failed to indicate him. They could have done that without bringing charges and Jerry's access to boys would have been restricted. His guest privileges in the PSU facilities would not have been written into his retirement agreement and none of this would have ever happened.
Distraught...NO. Incoherent...ALWAYSIt doesn't seem very likely that Mike would be able to act distraught and incoherent 6 weeks after the event -- and I believe Joe basically confirmed that Mike remained shook up when Mike spoke to Joe.
On the other hand, none of the board's gumshoes have bothered to check if there was a medical conference in Boston around New Year's. My guess is no. Pretty dumb to have a conference on a Holiday.
Not immediately, I recall that being mentioned in researching some old reports of the UVA HC search. Reports had Jim Caldwell as his potential OC with Al Golden his likely DC, if he took the job.
Yes, Jim Caldwell actually accompanied Sandusky on one of his trips to UVA for one of his interviews. So-called “Victim 2” Allan Myers was also on that trip.
It is possible that Mike did his song and dance for Dad and Dranov 6 weeks later.I'm confused about the December 29, 2000 date.
Dranov says in court that he knew the date when he came over and spoke with Mike was February 9, 2001 because that was the weekend he had a medical conference up in Boston and he remembers leaving the next day.
So did Mike put on some dramatic performance for Dranov 6 weeks after he witnessed the incident? That makes no sense.
It is possible that Mike did his song and dance for Dad and Dranov 6 weeks later.
It is also possible that Dranov mis-remembered the date.
10 years later, it is possible everybody misremembered the date.
Travelling with an unrelated boy seems like something Jerry's team would be sure to bring up in any new trial. Good look.
What the heck are you saying? Even if it was somehow weird for a fatherless teenage boy to spend time with another adult male with his mother’s blessing, Sandusky brought another adult on the trip! Makes no sense if Sandusky was actually molesting said teenage boy!
Very interesting article. I’m glad I read it. Thanks for sharing it.Here is a link to an interesting article by Carol Tavris in skeptic magazine entitled "I, Too Am Thinking About Me, Too."
https://www.skeptic.com/read.../me-too-cognitive-dissonance/
Saw him in person a few years ago. Strange and brilliant and very interesting dude. But yes, strange.Gladwell was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. Pretty bad interview from Kimmel but Gladwell is a very strange dude.
That is the first time I've ever seen him.
Agreed. But the preponderance of evidence suggests that it was probably in December, not during spring break.10 years later, it is possible everybody misremembered the date.
Lasch phone records would be definitive.Agreed. But the preponderance of evidence suggests that it was probably in December, not during spring break.
Lasch phone records would be definitive.
1) I don't think we've seen any phone records though. Funny, that.Lasch phone records would be definitive.
Lasch phone records would be definitive.
Agreed. But the preponderance of evidence suggests that it was probably in December, not during spring break.
This is regarding the trip to Virginia, right? I would assume they stayed overnight.What the heck are you saying? Even if it was somehow weird for a fatherless teenage boy to spend time with another adult male with his mother’s blessing, Sandusky brought another adult on the trip! Makes no sense if Sandusky was actually molesting said teenage boy!
This is regarding the trip to Virginia, right? I would assume they stayed overnight.
What were the sleeping arrangements?
Because Curley talked to him about it.Why would Jerry remember the exact date of an innocent shower 10 years afterwards? Come on man, be better.
You would assume UVA would have paid for separate rooms for Jerry and Caldwell.
You wouldn't expect they'd pay for another room for Jerry's friend.
Very good article, but it merely reflects what anyone with even a modicum of common sense already knows. That said, we live in a world gone mad.Here is a link to an interesting article by Carol Tavris in skeptic magazine entitled "I, Too Am Thinking About Me, Too."
https://www.skeptic.com/read.../me-too-cognitive-dissonance/
Very good article, but it merely reflects what anyone with even a modicum of common sense already knows. That said, we live in a world gone mad.
Clinging to the false narrative for dear life. Wonder why that is?The same people have been talking about the same BS for almost nine years with no hope of changing the outcome. I agree, some in this world have gone mad.
Clinging to the false narrative for dear life. Wonder why that is?
Just to be clear, you are saying that Malcolm Gladwell (extremely respected author and lecturer) and Carol Tavris (journalist for Wall Street Journal) are insane. Obviously, you know better than they do. LMFAO.Because I'm sane.