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Updated: Where we stand with Recruits 8/10

That is interesting. If I were a coach I'd rather have my best players likely be 4th and 5th year guys. But UM's strategy is that he'd rather have his best players be 3rd year guys with the 4th/5th year guys in the NFL.

Another way to look at is, I'd rather have a team of 3 and 4 stars in their 4th/5th year rather than 4 and 5 star players in their 3rd year. But the strategy does work for UM and Saban since they consistently recruit at a high level.


I hear that Meyer tells his recruits that they will play for 3 years, max. Nobody plays more than 3 years. If you are still playing after 3 and not good enough to go to the NFL, then it's good bye. In essence, no 5th yr seniors, period.

Of course, they are all 4-5 star recruits, so they think they'll all be in the NFL by then, anyhow.
 
In the modern class structure it is not difficult for an athlete to graduate in 3 or 3&1/2 years. I think that should be the trajectory of every player at this point. With two summer sessions a year, including one prior to their freshman year, this shouldn't be hard.
 
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He did not play for him for more than year, and he even said as much the one time he answered questions about it. Conventional wisdom on most of the recruiting sites though is that they are still up there for him, which is why I mentioned it. About a year ago though his top schools were UM, OSU, PSU and Rutgers. So a lot has changed with southern schools gaining tons of ground but I don't think the change is over and I think there will be more developments this fall.
The advantage michigan had was Partridge knew how to recruit him and his mother because he had succesfully done so before (against the other northern Jersey Catholics). Its not that other schools ignored academics during his visits but many didn't focus on them enough. Because Partridge knows the family, michigan made his initial visits about academics, more academics, academics again and then football.

Gary's mother is a big part of this recruitment (more hands on than the average parent...and in this case it appears to be in a positive way) and she is being pretty meticulous about everything but football. After Michigan appeared to jump to the front of the pack because they knew this and answered certain questions before they were even asked...other schools (in particular southern schools which he had yet to visit) figured this out and have taken a similar approach. Thus the advantage michigan had seems to have been nullified and things do appear to be trending towards the southern schools.
 
I wouldn't count on Hamlin he was at the Pitt practice and will be there more, he is friends with guys on the team and also with Wheeler. He will probably commit to Pitt as did Whitehead. Just my opinion from what is going on.
 
I wouldn't count on Hamlin he was at the Pitt practice and will be there more, he is friends with guys on the team and also with Wheeler. He will probably commit to Pitt as did Whitehead. Just my opinion from what is going on.
As I've said multiple times. I put the chance of that at 0%. OSU or PSU, unless he wants to play with Ford and then it will be ND. I don't think there is any way Ford goes anywhere other than ND.
 
I don't see Hamlin going to Pitt, either. He's too enamored with the big-time programs to end up with them. He is teammates with Wheeler, but he's also teammates with Adams, the 2017 LB who appears to be a near-lock with us, and he played with Petrishen, from last year's class.

I could definitely see Hamlin going to ND, though. Lots of Central Catholic non-athletes go to ND, and they have a big presence at Central for academic reasons. Ford's half brother goes to ND, as well, and those two have been visiting schools together.

I still think we have a good chance with him, though.
 
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As I've said multiple times. I put the chance of that at 0%. OSU or PSU, unless he wants to play with Ford and then it will be ND. I don't think there is any way Ford goes anywhere other than ND.
Thats your opinion and mine is he goes the same route as Whitehead. These guys are playing the game to get some partying in. I bet Paris goes to ND and Hamlin to Pitt.
 
how much, What does that "new member" got to do with it? You think because i am a new member i know nothing about CFB or recruiting?
 
I'm surprised these threads made it this long without a troll attack. All of the other fans of other teams have at least been respectful when visiting them, wrong but respectful.
 
I'm surprised these threads made it this long without a troll attack. All of the other fans of other teams have at least been respectful when visiting them, wrong but respectful.
I am not a troll I was giving you my opinion on Hamlin and the lionlurker began calling me a Pitt grad so i had some fun with him that's all no ranting or trolling just my opinion. I guess these guys don't like when someone has a different opinion than you.
 
CB's really depend and who is CBing is important. If you follow it you can generally tell how confident you should be. With both of these guys I'm pretty confident.

My thoughts on Scholarships based on this staffs brief history and what will help us win the most:
  • There are 70 guys now on the roster with 2016 eligibility (*not counting Walker*, I think his was a one year schollie). That's room for 15 in 2016 right now.
  • The most likely guys leaving to make room are RS JRs. Some of them would be big losses (AJ, Wartman-White, Lynch) and others are buried on the depth chart. There are 12 of them and I think we could see 6-8 move on. There will probably be 2-3 other players that either transfer or for some other reason aren't with the program. We should easily get to 24 schollies for 2016 which is what I've predicted for some time.
  • 2017 gets way more interesting bc there are 53 guys with 2017 eligibility. Add in the 24 from 2016 I say we take and you are at 77 of the 85 for 2017. That means only 8 schollies. If you look at the 2016 RS JRs (currently RS SOs) though it is hard to imagine all of them staying, or maybe any. We are talking Breneman, Hamilton, Nelson, Mahon, Sickels, Cothren and Cothran. I severly doubt any of the first five stay with how big of contributors some have already been and how big all of them are expected to be over the next two years (2015 and 2016 season). That gets you to 12-14 schollies in 2017. Then there are the FR contributors from last year. I really doubt Allen stays 4 years and Campbell, Haley, Godwin, Blacknell, and Cabinda are all possibilities to leave after their true JR season for the NFL. Obviously not all will be ready and not all will leave but maybe 1 or 2. That gives you 13-16 schollies in 2017. Add in a few surprise departures and we should be around 18-20 in 2017.
Surprises happen, staying 5 years will be a rarity in the coming years, and with more high profile recruits guys leaving after 3 years will become more likely. No reason we shouldn't have between 20-25 every year. I still hope and think Hack will stay for 2016.

Wasn't Walker named a team captain this year? I'm not so sure that they would pull a scholarship from a captain.

I also have difficulty coming up with 8 kids with junior eligibility that are NFL ready. We've probably got 4 kids with junior eligibility that might not see much action this year. I wonder if Franklin will pull their scholarships for next year.
 
What is the point of making a fake account and trolling another teams board? Trolls like fasttracker need to get a life.
 
Wasn't Walker named a team captain this year? I'm not so sure that they would pull a scholarship from a captain.

I also have difficulty coming up with 8 kids with junior eligibility that are NFL ready. We've probably got 4 kids with junior eligibility that might not see much action this year. I wonder if Franklin will pull their scholarships for next year.
It's not that they are NFL ready. It's that they played here 4 years and they got their degree and now what is their role on the team. We've seen it the last two year already. As discussed above, and I agree, I don't think 5th years are guaranteed. I think Penn States obligation to them is upheld. Don't get me wrong I love every player on our team and I want them all to do their best and most importantly graduate. These are 4 million dollar decisions and that is why Franklin gets paid what he does.
 
As I've said multiple times. I put the chance of that at 0%. OSU or PSU, unless he wants to play with Ford and then it will be ND. I don't think there is any way Ford goes anywhere other than ND.
You guys have a great class and are absolutely killing us on the recruiting trail, so this isn't a troll.

I highly doubt that Hamlin goes to PSU. Frankly, he just isn't that into PSU. Pitt is probably his leader and then OSU is right there with them. PSU and ND are much further down. Basically, to get to PSU, I think Pitt would have to win like 5-6 games or less (very possible) and OSU would have to tell Hamlin that they didn't have room (possible but not likely) and then PSU would have to beat out ND for him in a battle where PSU would have a slight lead.

Not a troll at all, just some info. Save the insults and etc. I know you guys are whipping us in recruiting and taking 98% of the guys we are both after, especially in state.
 
According to the CC guys I know, you're wrong about that. We may well not get him, but for sure, Pitt won't. That is the current CC opinion.
 
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According the CC guys I know, you're wrong about that. We may well not get him, but for sure, Pitt won't. That is the current CC opinion.

My only response to that would be that if he isn't considering Pitt seriously, then he is pulling one of the all time troll jobs for no reason.
 
My only response to that would be that if he isn't considering Pitt seriously, then he is pulling one of the all time troll jobs for no reason.

Hamlin likes the attention. It's that simple. It may or may not be a personality flaw, but he enjoys the spotlight.
 
Just like miles sanders?
Nope not like Sanders at all. Sanders is a PSU verbal who is most likely staying with PSU IMO. He did say he wants to visit VT and Pitt, but I highly doubt he ends up anywhere other than PSU. And he on the other hand, isn't trolling anyone. (Nor is Hamlin)
 
Nope not like Sanders at all. Sanders is a PSU verbal who is most likely staying with PSU IMO. He did say he wants to visit VT and Pitt, but I highly doubt he ends up anywhere other than PSU. And he on the other hand, isn't trolling anyone. (Nor is Hamlin)
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Hamlin likes the attention. It's that simple. It may or may not be a personality flaw, but he enjoys the spotlight.


Not like he has to make a big trip to kill time at a Pitt practice ... And he probably is going with team mates that Pitt is a serious best option for.

There is a big difference between "info" and opinion.
 
this may be very old news I don't follow recruiting nearly as closely as you do and I appreciate your effort in all of this. I just read an article on bleacherreport saying Ferns has taken OSU off of his list (who 24/7 said was the front runner) it is down to PSU and WVU. Any idea of our updated chances with OSU out of the picture.
 
this may be very old news I don't follow recruiting nearly as closely as you do and I appreciate your effort in all of this. I just read an article on bleacherreport saying Ferns has taken OSU off of his list (who 24/7 said was the front runner) it is down to PSU and WVU. Any idea of our updated chances with OSU out of the picture.

Jefferson Davis decides The Confederacy will make a go for it without the United States of America:)
 
Jefferson Davis decides The Confederacy will make a go for it without the United States of America:)
No way?! WE LANDED ON THE MOON!

Jking Flames... That happened a few months back, but at this point I think he is WVU's to lose. He did mention that is was Penn State that turned him onto the importance of academics, so that might be the reason we are even still in it. I believe he will be playing in Morgantown with his brother.
 
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