People need to understand that I'm high on Allar - and even McCord - they both have top notch physical tools just need to see both against really good defenses although the Indiana defense isn't that bad. It's just that Indiana's offense sucks and couldn't keep the defense off the field very long. We'll know more about both in a few more games. In other words, let's give Allar some time before people start annointing him
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You don't know and shouldn't be commenting because you didn't watch Allar play. So get lost fake buckeye hiding behind your Northwestern degree because no one cares about Northwestern football.
Why are there so many buckeye fanboys posting here pretending to be fans of other schools? You guys must have the smallest appendages in the country to be this insecure. Just get lost.
I think folks may be taking for granted just how impressive that first TD pass was. Running forward and winged it, dropping his arm slot lower ... that's not human. Now, there's a lot more to QB'ing than just that one play/throw ... but that was a clear sign we had someone back there with outrageous capabilities. His arm talent is bananas.
He was also much more poised under blitz pressure, and overall, than you would expect a kid to be in his first start.
A couple of throws he would want back, but other than that, it was pretty flawless. He was going through progressions, he was decisive. Tremendous.
Anyone looking for anything negative from the QB position after that showing is just being a "get off my lawn" self-important grumpy gus.
He was also much more poised under blitz pressure, and overall, than you would expect a kid to be in his first start.
A couple of throws he would want back, but other than that, it was pretty flawless. He was going through progressions, he was decisive. Tremendous.
Anyone looking for anything negative from the QB position after that showing is just being a "get off my lawn" self-important grumpy gus.
Oh, good God.
Again, do you think he's a top 5 QB ? Answer the question. In time, yes, not right now though. Again, I try to be honest and don't give a rat's as$ what you think. This is a public board and you don't own it. End of story
Get lost dishonest Buckeye fanboy. Had you come here as an honest Ohio St fan asking questions, you would get honest answers. But you aren't an honest person. Get lost.
Answer the question and quit the blabbering - is he a top 5 QB right now ? He probably will be in time - not right now though
When you are honest you can expect honest answers. But you aren't. Why are you so insecure that you are here pretending to be something that you aren't?
You know he's not yet a top 5 QB but may be one...stop exaggerating to make it seem like you were right last year.
I’m sure the QB’s with better stats weren’t even playing P5 opponents, so at least Allar’s stats were against a legit team. Is he a top 5 QB in CFB right now? Who knows. Did he have a top 5 performance yesterday? Yes.
And as I've said, right now Allar has the physical tools to eventually be a GREAT one! Let's just give the kid some time. Not slamming him AT ALL.
Agree, he looked great-solid yesterday. No argument here. Just want to see more of him against top notch defenses that will be willing (and can) - throw the kitchen sink at him.
Got shoved around again - both sides of the ball…thought we were getting that corrected after Pasadena…was shocked to see it rear it’s head again…I guess the Rose Bowl was an anomoly.
Very disappointing all around performance.
One big difference: Ohio State was not shoved around in the trenches.
They will be just fine.
If getting shoved around on both lines is domination, then yea they dominated.
And West Virginia is horrendous…zero playmakers yet they made us very uncomfortable well into the 2nd half.
More of the same…
It’s not the destination, it’s the journey…enjoy each week and appreciate the wins as they come. If you’re upset after an opening season win over a P5 team by 23 points, you might want to find something else to do in the fall.
Not sure what game you were watching. Apparently you only see what you want to see.
Not sure what his agenda is, but he sounds pretty pathetic. Let him be miserable. Makes our enjoyment all the better.
He’s a Franklin hater who will slam everything about the program until Franklin is gone.
Did you watch the game?
Our offense came on broken plays with Allar running for his life.
Name a decent play on defense. One. Zero pressure, zero turnovers, zip, zilch, nada.
Luckily WVU has one of the worst secondaries in NCAA and zero playmakers.
Won’t be so fortunate in short order (eye roll).
Not upset at all. Had a great time at the game, fantastic crowd, beautiful weather, awesome tailgating.
But the play is what it is…extremely disappointing after it looked like we might be on track after the Rose Bowl. Simply too soft to win…seems Pasadena was an anomaly.
Looking forward to next week and Delaware…just a exhibition though…can’t derive anything from the conquerors of Stony Brook.
As for CJF, he seems to be getting better in-game. Recruits well in spots. But I doubt he gets Penn State over the top as his best players seem to be athletes and not football players. Doesn’t make him a bad guy…but after 10 years I think we see what we have. Good but not elite with no sign of it on the horizon.
I would say that Allar is a sign on the Horizon. We will have Drew this year and next year....then probably gone. Do you think that a high end portal WR may want to play on PSU with Drew as the QB? Perhaps bring in a premier DT that wants to play for a team that is on track to be Top 10 with a shot at the Playofff. The program is improving, OL looked good even with West Virginia playing a cover 1 or even cover 0 ie.....lots of bodies at the line of scrimmage and yet both Running Backs ran for over 5 YPC and our QB hit on about 80% of his passes. The runs up the middle by WVU were concerning and needs to be corrected. WVU QB was throwing the ball in about 2 seconds thus the no big pass plays but then also very low sack amounts and no turnovers.
The offense looks better than last year.....the defense seems about the same.....was hoping for some growth on Defense....maybe it will come through this year. Iowa Game and Illinois Game will be good tests for the run defense....but both seem very winnable setting up tOSU and UofM as the Games. Enjoy the ride.
I don’t think we stacked up well against WVU when on defense. Their strength was our weakness. But we won’t play too many teams with an all American center and a 240 lb running back.
Well, that’s it. No shot at the playoffs. Guess it’s time to make reservations for the Mineki Bowl where we will play Pitt.
Of course I watched the game and saw quite a few decent plays on defense including two pretty awesome fourth down stops. And moving around in the pocket with your eyes downfield doesn’t constitute “broken plays”, that’s what good QB’s do. We scored 38 points with two missed FG’s (which would be 44) without getting any turnovers and different clock rules designed to shorten the game against a P5 opponent with a first year starting QB…that’s pretty good offense no matter how much you live in a fantasy world. What would have been an acceptable score to you?
And better than we’ve been in a lot of years…the selective memory strikes again. I know, we deserve to be at Alabama and Georgia level based on the dynasty we had over the past three decades.
At this point I would not trade Allar for anyone's quarterback. I think he will be the best we have had all-time (though probably not in total yards/completions, given only 2 full seasons as a starter are likely). I think he will be sharing a bit more with Pribula too, which is good. Pribula looked ready to play -- especially running. He may be the man to run out the clock in the 4th.
In the past I don't think the starter would have been pulled when Pribula went in (ahead by 16), so I'm pleased that perhaps we see a need to develop and play the #2 with meaningful snaps.
Show me a PSU quarterback who had looked better than Allar, in terms of tools, vision, poise, mechanics, etc., at this point in his career. I can't think of one.
In the past I don't think the starter would have been pulled when Pribula went in (ahead by 16), so I'm pleased that perhaps we see a need to develop and play the #2 with meaningful snaps.
Show me a PSU quarterback who had looked better than Allar, in terms of tools, vision, poise, mechanics, etc., at this point in his career. I can't think of one.
Wally Richardson. Well, not really, but I really loved watching him play. Honorable mentions - Hackenberg, Bolden, Mills. I'd still easily put Allar above them, but they are also cautionary tales on development. This question is also a bit biased because it was easier to build up and develop depth before the portal, so players didn't typically play as early.
LOL. You've been singing the same anti-Franklin tune for years. It was tired and old last year when you talked about how awful and soft PSU was ... and then they won the Rose Bowl. Now you're back again to sound silly throughout the entirety of this year, too.
Time will tell. Impressed by a win at Duquesne? Or TCU? Heck, Coach Prime even won there.
West Virgina is lousy. So they barely beat a couple of lousy teams. Big deal. What’s your point? Penn State has a long way to go. Have not looked good a lot of this year - especially on road.
DTackle getting healthy has helped. If they can play this way against O$U and Michigan, then they will have a shot as defense will keep them in games.
Otherwise, it will be a nice year but ultimately a fail.
So any time a team you think is bad beats someone, you will just say the team they beat is lousy…that’s a pretty lazy argument.
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