Weekly Review of Rankings for 1/4/16

[Tom McAndrew]

below are the rankings from various publications, web sites, and ranking services. I'll update the review as additional rankings are posted during the week, and when all are posted will generate an average ranking.

InterMat (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 4th (6th)
141: Gulibon - 13th (6th)
149: Zain - 1st (1st)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Morelli - 19th (18th)
174: Nickal - 1st (5th)
184: Cutch - 13th (13th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (no PSUer)
Team Tournament - 1st (1st)
Team Dual Meet - 1st (1st)


FloWrestling (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 5th (9th)
141: No PSUer (Gulibon - 7th)
149: Zain - 1st (1st)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Rasheed - 12th (16th)
174: Nickal - 1st (6th)
184: Cutch - 12th (12th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (No PSUer)
Tournament Team - 1st (2nd)
Dual Team - 1st (1st)
P4P
Zain - 5th (5th)
Nico - 9th (9th)
McIntosh - 13th (12th)
Nolf - 19th (NR)
Nickal - 20th (NR)


The Open Mat (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 5th (8th)
141: Gulibon - 15th (10th)
149: Zain - 2nd (2nd)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Rasheed - 14th (14th)
174: Nickal - 1st (6th)
184: Cutch - 12th (12th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (no PSUer)


Wrestling Report (Top 33 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 5th (8th)
141: Gulibon - 20th (7th)
149: Zain - 1st (1st)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Morelli - 17th (Rasheed - 18th)
174: Nickal - 1st (4th)
184: Cutch - 14th (13th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (No PSUer)
Team - 1st (1st)


WIN Magazine (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 6th (8th)
141: Gulibon - 20th (13th)
149: Zain - 2nd (2nd)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Morrelli - 16th (Rasheed - 17th)
174: Nickal - 1st (6th)
184: Cutch - 15th (15th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer
Team Tournament - 1st (3rd)
Team Dual - 1st (1st)


USA Today/NWCA Division 1 Coaches Poll
PSU - 1st (1st)


Amateur Wrestling News (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 4th (7th)
141: Gulibon - 12th (7th)
149: Zain - 2nd (2nd)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Morelli - 14th (Rasheed - 11th)
174: Nickal - 1st (3rd)
184: Cutch - 16th (13rd)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (No PSUer)


WrestleStats (Top 100+ wrestlers, including those RSing)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (6th), Yanovich - 72nd (51st), Higgins - 158th (149th), Stossel - 193rd (180th)
133: Conaway - 4th (17th), Corez - 3rd (5th), Carpenter - 186th (179th)
141: Gulibon - 31st (6th), Moss - 45th (38th), T. Law - 96th (94th), Dinmore 118th (71st), Giannangell - 175th (170th)
149: Zain - 2nd (2nd)
157: Nolf - 2nd (2nd), Beitz - 10th (20th), V. Joseph - 27th (16th)
165: Rasheed - 16th (23rd), Hammond - 20th (28th), Morelli - 24th (21st), C. Law - 54th (36th), Livingston - 98th (95th)
174: Nickal - 1st (3rd), Brill - 37th (28th)
184: Cutch - 9th (9th), Stout - 44th (35th), Van Cura - 81st (93rd), Daily - 190th (172nd)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: Johnson - 175th (92nd)
Team - 1st (2nd)

Note: Dinmore wrestled at 149 in the Scuffle, but moved from the 149 rankings to the 141 rankings.


Associated Wrestling Press (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from a month ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 5th (9th)
141: Gulibon - 7th (6th)
149: Zain - 1st (1st)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Rasheed - 19th (19th)
174: Nickal - 1st (8th)
184: Cutch - 12th (13th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (No PSUer)


Dual Impact Index powered by National Collegiate Open (All starters, with redshirts included)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (9th), Yanovich - 36th (31st), Higgins - 70th (68th), Stossel - 75th (71st)
133: Conaway - 11th (14th), Cortez - 3rd (4th)
141: Gulibon - 29th (14th), Moss - 25th (22nd), Dinmore - 39th (32nd), Giannangeli - 68th (62nd), T. Law - 72nd (69th)
149: Zain - 1st (2nd)
157: Nolf - 1st (2nd), Beitz - 8th 11th)
165: Rasheed 10th (12th), Morelli - 10th (12th), Hammond - 5th (12th), C. Law - 36th (33rd), Livingston - 63rd (59th), Bisono - 73rd (69th)
174: Nickal - 1st (1st), Brill - 36th (41st)
184: Cutch - 9th (5th), Stout - 29th (26th), Van Cura - 41st (46th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (Johnson doesn't have 5 matches, which is the minimum to be ranked)
Team Tournament - 1st (2nd)
Team Dual - 1st (4th)
Team Roster Component - 2nd (4th)
P4P
Zain - 1st (6th)
Nolf - 5th (15th)
McIntosh - 7th (22nd)
Nickal - 10th (11th)
Nico - 50th (61st)
Cutch - 83rd (60th)
Conaway - 104th (160th)
Rasheed - 107th (117th)
Moss - 192nd (NR)


Average
125: Nico - 4th (5th)
133: Conaway - 5th (9th)
141: Gulibon -18th (9th)
149: Zain - 1st (2nd)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Rasheed - 14th (15th)
174: Nickal - 1st (5th)
184: Cutch - 12th (12th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (No PSUer)
Team - 1st (2nd)

The rule for the Average is a wrestler must be listed in half of the rankings to be included. Rasheed was in 5 of the 9 rankings, while Morelli was in 4 of the 9, so Rasheed stays in the Average. Associated Wrestling Press posted rankings this week for the 1st time in a month, so this week's Average is a little bit of applies to oranges in terms of comparing it to the previous one (2 weeks ago, due to the holidays). Neither AWP or AWN's rankings were included in the last Average, due to their both being outdated. The computer generated rankings are becoming far more accurate, as they got a lot more data from Midlands and from the Scuffle. If the 2 computer generated rankings (WrestleStats and Dual Impact Index) are excluded from the Average, these would be the Average for the respective PSU wrestlers (with a comparison in parenthesis): Nico - 4th (same), Conaway - 5th (same), Gulibon - 15th (up), Zain - 1st (same), Nolf - 3rd (same), Rasheed - 16th (down), Nickal - 1st (same), Cutch 13th (down), McIntosh - 1st (same), Team - 1st (same). If the average with and without the computer generated numbers remain very similar, then I will stop providing both Averages in the near future.



InterMat's 1/5 Rankings

FloWrestling's 1/4 Rankings

TOM's 1/5 Rankings

WrestlingReport's 1/5 Rankings

WIN Magazine 1/4 Rankings

USA Today/NWCA Division I Coaches Poll for 1/5

Amateur Wrestling News 1/4 Rankings

WrestleStats' 1/5 Rankings

Associated Wrestling Press 1/6 Rankings

Dual Impact Index powered by the National Collegiate Open for 1/5

 

[Flying_Tiger]

Intermat and Flo are posted. Penn State has a few nice moves up and one big move down. Overall, the net was positive as Iowa and OSU had some guys drop. Snyder and Martin are now ranked for tOSU; Buckeyes still have some work to do.

 

[Diego Badman]

The Open Mat (Top 20 per weight class)
Parenthesis are from 2 weeks ago
125: Nico - 4th (4th)
133: Conaway - 5th (8th)
141: Gulibon - 15th (10th)
149: Zain - 2nd (2nd)
157: Nolf - 3rd (3rd)
165: Rasheed - 14th (14th)
174: Nickal - 1st (6th)
184: Cutch - 12th (12th)
197: McIntosh - 1st (1st)
285: No PSUer (no PSUer)


I think these are pretty fair. I think Zain would beat Sorenson 2-1 (Early Escape and RT versus late escape after RT gained). Likewise, Tsirtsis.

At this stage, I am wondering if 15th is too high for Jimmy. I'm hoping he gets healthy and adjusts. I think confidence, for him, goes a long way.

Not sure if Rasheed (or whoever our entry at 165) is worthy of a 14th. I think Preisch showed better at Southern Scuffle. If potential is considered, Rasheed is worthy.

No one deserves #1 more than Bo at this point in the season.

A healthy Cutch, I think is no lower than 10th.

Overall, not much with which to argue from a big picture standpoint.

 

[zwick99]

Did Cael ever confirm that Nevils is out for the entire year?

 

[aalion]

No. They are hopeful (but not optimistic) that he can be back this year.

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Dual Impact Index p/b @NCOWrestling: https://setonhallpirate.wordpress.c...ex-presented-by-the-national-collegiate-open/

 

[Tom McAndrew]

An issue I had with this week's rankings did not even involve a PSU wrestler.

It's been announced by Ohio State that Kyle Snyder's redshirt is being pulled, and that he'll be wrestling 285 starting in February. To me, it's OK to include somebody like that in preseason rankings, or to hold their place if they are out due to an injury. However, Snyder is a guy that is moving up a weight, and is not planning to wrestle folk for another month. Despite what he did at 197 at NCAAs last year, or what he did at FS Worlds last year, it seems somewhat hasty to me to rank him at this point in folk.

Here's how the various rankings handled Snyder

InterMat:
ranked him #2

FloWrestling:
ranked him #2, and also #10 in the P4P

TOM:
did not rank him

WrestlingReport:
did not rank him

WIN Magazine:
ranked him #1

WrestleStats:
did not rank him

Associated Wrestling Press:
ranked him #2

Dual Impact Index powered by National Collegiate Open:
did not rank him

 

[april racer]

An issue I had with this week's rankings did not even involve a PSU wrestler.

It's been announced by Ohio State that Kyle Snyder's redshirt is being pulled, and that he'll be wrestling 285 starting in February. To me, it's OK to include somebody like that in preseason rankings, or to hold their place if they are out due to a injury. However, Snyder is a guy that is moving up a weight, and is not planning to wrestle folk for another month. Despite what he did at 197 at NCAAs last year, or what he did at FS Worlds last year, it seems somewhat hasty to me to rank him at this point in folk.

Here's how the various rankings handled Snyder

InterMat:
ranked him #2

FloWrestling:
ranked him #2, and also #10 in the P4P

TOM:
did not rank him

WrestlingReport:
did not rank him

WIN Magazine:
ranked him #1

WrestleStats:
did not rank him

I completely agree. I was not expecting him to be ranked by anyone. Like you said preseason is fine, but getting ranked after missing the first 2 months and not planning to wrestle for another month seems hasty. I would wait until he has at least one match.

 

[slicone]

An issue I had with this week's rankings did not even involve a PSU wrestler.

It's been announced by Ohio State that Kyle Snyder's redshirt is being pulled, and that he'll be wrestling 285 starting in February. To me, it's OK to include somebody like that in preseason rankings, or to hold their place if they are out due to a injury. However, Snyder is a guy that is moving up a weight, and is not planning to wrestle folk for another month. Despite what he did at 197 at NCAAs last year, or what he did at FS Worlds last year, it seems somewhat hasty to me to rank him at this point in folk.

Here's how the various rankings handled Snyder

InterMat:
ranked him #2

FloWrestling:
ranked him #2, and also #10 in the P4P

TOM:
did not rank him

WrestlingReport:
did not rank him

WIN Magazine:
ranked him #1

WrestleStats:
did not rank him

100% agree

 

[SetonHallPirate]

I, obviously, did not rank Snyder, as I have absolutely nothing to rank him on. The way things look, unless his plans change, he probably won't be ranked until Big Ten's.

 

[NoVa Lion]

I, obviously, did not rank Snyder, as I have absolutely nothing to rank him on. The way things look, unless his plans change, he probably won't be ranked until Big Ten's.

And Snyder could make a mess of the brackets at B1Gs. He is only going to wrestle in the PSU dual and MAYBE the Wisconsin dual so he probably does not get a seed at B1Gs. Ugh for someone at 285.

 

[RoarLions1]

And Snyder could make a mess of the brackets at B1Gs. He is only going to wrestle in the PSU dual and MAYBE the Wisconsin dual so he probably does not get a seed at B1Gs. Ugh for someone at 285.

The Big Ten Committee managed to seed Delgado 2nd, and Stieber 3rd last year, so I'll guess Snyder will get seeded. Regardless of what they do, it will steal an allocated qualifier slot from the B1G at 285.

 

[andegre]

I, obviously, did not rank Snyder, as I have absolutely nothing to rank him on. The way things look, unless his plans change, he probably won't be ranked until Big Ten's.

Same with me. He has a preseason ranking, that's coming from his placement from last season, but until he wrestles a match this season, he will never be assigned a ranking.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Fully updated, and Average generated and posted. Associated Wrestling Press posted rankings for the 1st time in a month.

Enjoy