What is your PSU Bball HC criteria?
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It was relevant to the discussion because the post I responded to said Kraft should have given Rhoades whatever he wanted and that’s just not feasible. If he offered him a good deal and Rhoades didn’t take it, that’s not on Kraft. Any AD still has to be realistic.
I don't think that's garbage. I completely agree BJC isn't suitable for the men's basketball program and basketball isn't a priority at Penn State. Many feel that way even if you don't.
i think he was saying Kraft should've met any demand by Shrewsberry no matter what it was. I agree with you that would have been unreasonable.
But I think he was angling for the ND job since January. If Kraft didn't have a list of possible replacements that is dereliction of duty
He had to outbid ND to keep him as ND is sadly the better program. He didn't so he needed to have a Plan B in place that was a done deal. If this works that's great if not--it's really, really, really bad.
I'm not saying he's a good journalist but criticizing him for accurately saying Penn State isn't serious about basketball is a tough sell IMO
Hiring Fisher is also a disaster so they better figure this out if there are truly issues.
He couldn’t have outbid ND because that’s where Shrews wanted to go, so there’s that. I’m sure he had a plan b, c and d in place, but if they don’t want the job, there’s not much he can do. He has to go to the next offer.
The problem is that Jones does nothing but report on negatives about PSU regardless of whether it’s basketball, football or tiddlywinks. He’s a journalist much like you’re a message board poster. Does any other program have a “hometown reporter” like him? I haven’t seen any in the states I’ve lived in. He doesn’t have to be positive all the time, but once would be a nice change of pace.
How do you know hiring Fisher would be a disaster before he actually got a chance to coach?
Again, criticize him as a journalist not for that article. Tons of valid complaints about him. All teams should have reporters that focus on the negative and what's real instead of just positive spin.
Because after the season we had and with few other quality jobs open this is the best chance we'll have to land a legit coach. I don't need a guy with HC experience but Fisher's resume is unimpressive.
That's not that. We could have but we would have needed to meet every demand. We clearly decided against it. We'll see how that plays out.
People sure put a lot of stock into rumors, Gunsie’s “inside info”, etc. We don’t know where Rhoades falls in our pecking order right now. He could be one of several guys in the mix, but his agent is making sure plenty is leaked out to get him a raise if he stays put.
It's what I had and it was confirmed...now it appears he took back the acceptance of the offer...I don't see how anyone can be happy about it...whether I'm "wrong" or not it now appears psu lost what was its best possible option. Not good and frankly it's becoming even more obvious this program is cursed lol
How does an Athletic Director “jack up the NIL so high”?
And in the real world, they deal with budgets…if what we’re reportedly ready to offer is accurate, then we’ll be ok.
You’re becoming irrational…one minute, Kraft is an idiot for not giving Micah anything he wanted. The next day, you think it’s smart that we didn’t overpay him. Now, Mike Rhoades is the only answer, and if we don’t write him a blank check, the program is “dead”?
You were certainly a big enough ass when you thought you were right. I guess your inside information wasn’t all that reliable.
Just because his resume isn’t impressive enough for you doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be a good coach. Every great coach started somewhere. It’s not like we’re in the hunt for Coach K or Bill Self, so I don’t think his resume is all that far off from the others we’re talking about. No matter who we hire, some posters will be unhappy about it.
Iowa State is a better job--you know that right?
Otzelberger probably wouldn't even answer the phone.
A good hire is what is being discussed. We have no idea if anyone would be a good coach unless it would be someone like Coach K or Bill Self. We've seen guys with impressive resumes fail countless times. Fisher would reek of desperation.
And while we agree that some will be unhappy with it some will also pretend it's a great hire just because Penn State did it.
I love the "inside info" but now you have no clue what's happening.
And he wasn't the best possible option. He would be a good hire but there were better options. People just want him because he has PA ties.
Whether they’re unhappy with it or pretend it’s a great hire, no one will know until a few years down the road.
No one will know if the coach can be successful for years--the hire decision can be judged sooner. A great hire can be made and they fail. Happens in the "real world" too.
What other Power 5 jobs are open besides ours? I think Cal Berkeley which is a worse job, any others?
Shrews wanted the ND job and getting back to Indiana. We were not nor should we have given him $28 million over 7 years plus who knows what else regarding NIL and huge assistant coach salary increases. He is an excellent coach and I am disappointed he is gone but he was a bobbled/blown MD rebound away from the NIT. Wynter should get half his ND money.
Shrews wanted the ND job and getting back to Indiana. We were not nor should we have given him $28 million over 7 years plus who knows what else regarding NIL and huge assistant coach salary increases. He is an excellent coach and I am disappointed he is gone but he was a bobbled/blown MD rebound away from the NIT. Wynter should get half his ND money.
Just us, Cal, and Texas Tech. Rumors are that both of them have their targets, and they aren’t guys that make sense for us. So we are the biggest job open at this point for the candidates we’re looking at.
I'm not saying we should offer him. I'm saying a job paying $3.8 million is typically seen as more attractive than a job paying $1.2 million.
i read on another forum that Kraft initially called Earl Grant and/or Otzelberger (sp?).
. If that is all true, then Rhoades is at best the 4th option we have pursued, if you count keeping MS as option #1.
don't understand the AD's thinking on pursuing those first two guys, if he did
But Iowa State is the better job and a better gateway to an elite job generally speaking. Penn State is far riskier got long term success.
