MSU just got exposed in the worst way. That was a monumental beatdown. We have struggled this year, but yesterday was a ray of light. The team really rallied around the Kid. Even the beat up offensive line played reasonably well. Both coaching staffs have a challenge ahead of them.
What will the moods be of PSU and MSU heading into next Saturday?
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It will be an ugly game. Not sure the rsFr QB will have the time to throw that he did against Rutgers. MSU will try and just run the ball down our throats. It will be a slobberknocker big ten game. PSU owes MSU payback for those games in 2017 and 2018. PSU wins and they go bowling to Vegas or Nashville. Either would be a very fun trip for the team. PSU wins by a FG, 17-14.
Hell, yesterday WE looked like a team struggling to recover from a festering close loss, at least until some changes were made.
Michigan St is playing for 10 wins and a New Years Six bowl. If they had the mindset of Big Ten title/playoff or bust then they'll struggle to bounce back. We should be in a good frame of mind. Our defense has showed up every week. They just enjoy playing so I don't see them bringing anything less than their best. Hopefully our little offense outburst carries over. Parker and Dotson could have big games vs that secondary. I think we're better than Michigan State and should win but we've shown we can beat anyone and lose to anyone.
Well, for one thing....assuming everyone gets healthy....it should be a helluffa week of practice. You have the youngins that finally got to play fighting to play some more. The old starters should be motivated to practice hard to keep their jobs. And this includes QB.
Plus a lot on the line. A decent bowl vs bowling for dollars. And one last chance for kids to help their NFL stock draft. Pride of last regular season game. Last home game for Sparty seniors.
Plus a lot on the line. A decent bowl vs bowling for dollars. And one last chance for kids to help their NFL stock draft. Pride of last regular season game. Last home game for Sparty seniors.
If Neb knocks of IOWA and Minnesota beats Wisky and PSU takes care of business New Years day in Outback is still possible for PSU.
Gameday said MSU pass defense was one of the worst in the country and it showed versus OSU.
Fortunately, the PSU pass game has the chance to be good if Clifford is having a good game (or Veilleux plays solid again). Like Illinois, MSU can run all they want but how much will they score? They got seven against OSU and I think the PSU defense is at least that good.
I think this is a good match up for PSU in its current state.
Fortunately, the PSU pass game has the chance to be good if Clifford is having a good game (or Veilleux plays solid again). Like Illinois, MSU can run all they want but how much will they score? They got seven against OSU and I think the PSU defense is at least that good.
I think this is a good match up for PSU in its current state.
With the win over Michigan and UM the dawg v Ohio State, a 10-2 Michigan State would make Mel Tucker the blackest dude to Head Coach the Rose Bowl since Vince Young. They are beatable though, and We Are shooould be able to cheese #5/#3 for around 275 and 4TDs against that secondary.
Not one of the worst, the absolute worst Pass Defense in FBS - MSU gives up 340 Passing YPG, 130th of 130 FBS teams. Not only that, but they're overwhelmingly the worst, they give up 36 more YPG than the next worst Pass Defense, NMSU which gives up 306 Passing YPG.
Do those statistics factor in the OSU game? If so, they will be somewhat skewed. Also, a lot of their opponents have been playing from behind this year. What they give up in the air they stifle on the ground?
Prior to the OSU game, if you look at the statistics a bit deeper, you'll see that they actually fare okay in yards given up per attempt. Last in total yards, but they have been effective in keeping stuff in front of them.
OSU went right over the top. Repeatedly. That was unusual even for MSU. In their attempt to keep everything in front of them, Wilson and Olave got one-on-one matchups and scorched them.
MSU is actually very aggressive on the D-line, and is one of the league leaders in sacks. The OSU O-line shut them down completely, but they should be a formidable test for our O-line. If they get pressure, that gives their secondary a huge break.
And of course, their running game. OSU has a very tough run defense. Us......not as much.
Coming off an epic beatdown, at home, on senior day, with a NY6 game on the line........I'd expect Sparty to be ready.
Yeah.....they're not a great pass defense by any means. Poor, actually. And their defense as a whole is very average.
But I wouldn't judge them as a whole based on yesterday's game. They have not faced a WR trio like that -- and a team that is also loaded at RB. That OSU offense is a different animal than anything they've seen before.
I see this as being a 31-27 type of game.
No, not really. They gave up 449 Passing Yards to duhO$U, but that only impacted their "per game" stats by +11 yards - IOW, coming into the duhO$U game they were dead last in FBS in Pass Defense giving up 329 Passing YPG.
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Simply not true, MSU's Pass Defense had given up 3,290 yards of Passing Yards on 305 completions in the 10 games prior to the duhO$U game (i.e., 329 Passing YPG and 10.79 yards per completion). In the duhO$U game they gave up 449 Passing Yards on 36 Completions (i.e., 12.5 yards per completion). Hardly this massive difference in yards per completion that you're claiming.
Your basic claim that their Pass Defense isn't that bad excluding duhO$U is absurd - coming into the duhO$U game they were giving up 329 Passing YPG on an average completion of basically 11 Yards Per Completion (again, that is before the duhO$U game). BTW, Those numbers were surrendered against a horrendous schedule. How you figure being dead last in FBS in Pass Defense (130th of 130 FBS teams) coming into the duhO$U game giving up 329 Passing YPG isn't that bad is quite beyond me.
You might want to read a little closer and dig deeper on data next time.
MSU's pass defense in terms of efficiency and yards given up per completion is NOT the worst in the country. In fact, it's fairly average. #77 pass defense efficiency nationally, in fact. Better than Auburn, Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland, Ball State, etc.
Fun fact. MSU's opponents have thrown the ball 522 times. The most in America. By far. There are only a few teams that hit the 400 mark. Their opponents throw on them a TON -- but don't run on them much.
Western Kentucky's QB threw 64 times!!! Purdue's QB 54 times.
You're citing total yards and giving absolutely no context. Their "horrendous" schedule actually features the #3, #5, #31, #33, #38, #41, and #49 most efficient passing teams in the country. You know where we rank? #81.
If you've actually watched MSU, their pass defense gameplan is to give up the underneath and keep things in front. They'll provide that cushion, which teams have exploited. They have NOT given up the huge plays over the top -- until Ohio State, that is. And OSU features the best WR trio to probably ever play in the Big Ten, so that's not exactly a shock.
Also.......the last time we played an MSU team with a reeling secondary? 2018. And we couldn't do jack shit on them.
CJF is no JoePa.
BTW, MSU is also dead last in b1g in Total Offensive Yards surrendered per game. And have no clue what you're talking about in regards to our Run Defense not being any good and won't be able to stop MSU's running game, where exactly is that coming from??? PSU gives up 3.4 yards per rushing attempt, which is far from bad - in fact, it's #19 in the nation (the three b1g teams in front of PSU in this stat rank as follows: duhO$U is #12, Iowa #8 and Wisconsin #1).
PSU leads the entire nation in Scoring Defense, but I guess that should ignored as well?
You keep saying the same bullshit - you cite yards per attempt as evidence of keeping "everything underneath", when the stat which ACTUALLY measures this is "Yards Per Completion". Additionally, you keep referencing "Pass Defense Efficiency" which is an algorithm of multiple stats and highly subjective. MSU is dead last in the league AND Nation in Pass Defense giving up 340 Passing YPG (that is off the charts putrid - beyond bad.... and your notion that it's all from "dink & dunk" passes is nonsensical. Again, they're surrendering 340 Passing YPG through 11 games! Let that sink in genius - that is so gawd-awful bad, it can't even be put into perspective!). They go up to 11th in b1g in the highly subjective "Pass Defense Efficiency" for one reason, and one reason only - and that is INTs, they have 9 INTs and the three teams they jump, Indiana, Rutgrrs and Maryland only had 5, 7, 5 interceptions respectively (in other words, # of INTs is heavily weighted in the algorithm).
MSU's Pass Defense is so gawd-awful in so many fundamental statistics, it's beyond ridiculous to claim that they're decent - beyond ridiculous! They give up 340 Passing YPG - dead last in the nation and the next worst team gives up 306 yards. They allow their opponents to complete 65% of their passes - again, off the charts putrid in both the conference and nation. They've surrendered 23 TD passes through 11 games - again dead last in the conference and tied for 115th/116th worst Nationally out of 130 FBS teams.... IOW, beyond putrid.... but according to you none of these fundamental, absolute statistics say a thing about how unbelievably bad MSU's Pass Defense is??? LMFAO.
We should have success throwing the ball, no doubt. The question is will some of that success include the ever important explosive plays? Hopefully it does because we are not great sustaining drives. Don't need yards without TDs. Other key for us on offense is how does our O-line hold up in pass protection?
On D can we slowdown their run game? Walker is banged up a bit so maybe he is not 100%? Don't want a repeat of the '97 or '99 games.
On D can we slowdown their run game? Walker is banged up a bit so maybe he is not 100%? Don't want a repeat of the '97 or '99 games.
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