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What worries you most about SC

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My biggest worry...after seeing them play twice...is that they can get to Trace with 4 down line men....they dont have to blitz alot which means they can drop 7 into coverage, put a safety on Gesecki and bracket Godwin....they are very fast.
 
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I still like Gesecki on a safety. He's a matchup nightmare for anyone. I'm worried about the other side of the ball, their big wideout, our DB's are good but they aren't the biggest guys in the world and whether we can get QB pressure with our front 4.
 
Is the SC qb the best one we have faced? I mean true, pro-style qb, not a Barett type. I think he is.....
 
My biggest worry...after seeing them play twice...is that they can get to Trace with 4 down line men....they dont have to blitz alot which means they can drop 7 into coverage, put a safety on Gesecki and bracket Godwin....they are very fast.

Will have to be patient and show we can run it. A healthy, fresh Barkley would probably welcome one less guy in the box. Someone will need to account for Barkley in the pass game also. I think they're the ones that should be worried. The only thing I'd worry about is if we're in 4th and 2 or 3 around midfield and we decide to go for it. I actually hope USC is really good and we get a great, competitive tough game. Win or lose, I think that will do a lot for the team moving forward.
 
My biggest worry...after seeing them play twice...is that they can get to Trace with 4 down line men....they dont have to blitz alot which means they can drop 7 into coverage, put a safety on Gesecki and bracket Godwin....they are very fast.
They are really good.......and there ain't no magic formula or coaching scheme to erase that

Sorry, that's not much detail, but I don't think PSU fans (and probably "East Coasters" in general) realize how good this USC team is

Forget about the three losses........that team doesn't exist anymore

USC - right now - could probably play with Bama........I would certainly give them better odds against Bama than I would any team in the "Final Four" (Clemson, OSU, or UW)
 
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They are really good.......and there ain't no magic formula or coaching scheme to erase that

Sorry, that's not much detail, but I don't think PSU fans (and probably "East Coasters" in general) realize how good this USC team is

Forget about the three losses........that team doesn't exist anymore

USC - right now - could probably play with Bama........I would certainly give them better odds against Bama than I would any team in the "Final Four" (Clemson, OSU, or UW)

That doesnt make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside....
 
They are really good.......and there ain't no magic formula or coaching scheme to erase that

Sorry, that's not much detail, but I don't think PSU fans (and probably "East Coasters" in general) realize how good this USC team is

Forget about the three losses........that team doesn't exist anymore

USC - right now - could probably play with Bama........I would certainly give them better odds against Bama than I would any team in the "Final Four" (Clemson, OSU, or UW)
I've watched them throughout the year and agree they are good. The QB change has been huge and their D has great athletes. That said, about the best we can know is they whipped a UDub team that I think is more an 8 or 9 than a 4. Still, very good and they thumped them.

Still prefer our matchups and a healthy Barkely changes everything. Watching him run against Wisky you could see he wasn't right.. but he still made a lot of yards on a fairly stout D. I think he'll do better vs usc... unless they crowd the LOS and try to take him away... in which case our receivers will have a field day.

I expect they will stunt a lot until we break for a play change, then stunt again and try to fool Trace. Am I worried about it? Sure. For about 20 minutes... then we'll have them figured out and move along. :)
 
That doesnt make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside....
Well, if you ascribe to the theory that you want to play the highest possible caliber of opponent (and there is something to be said for that, I think)......then you got your wish!!

In spades
 
Well, if you ascribe to the theory that you want to play the highest possible caliber of opponent (and there is something to be said for that, I think)......then you got your wish!!

In spades
Gee. You sure we're capable of even stepping on the field with this team? This team that beat TWO teams w/ winning records? PSU beat 5 teams w/ 8+ wins in a tougher conference. Eff SC. Line em' up.
 
USC - right now - could probably play with Bama........I would certainly give them better odds against Bama than I would any team in the "Final Four" (Clemson, OSU, or UW)

You do realize that USC already lost to Bama 52-6. This season. Right?

Yeah, yeah, they're not the same team they were in the beginning of the season. Funny how that same argument doesn't also seem to apply to Penn State...
 
Gee. You sure we're capable of even stepping on the field with this team? This team that beat TWO teams w/ winning records? PSU beat 5 teams w/ 8+ wins in a tougher conference. Eff SC. Line em' up.
Hey - FWIW, and it's just one guys opinion:

I'm on record as saying that if I had to bet the mortgage money, I'd take PENN STATE straight up against any of those teams as well (Clemson, OSU, or UW).......and I mean that sincerely

I think this is gonna be a great matchup - - - I think BOTH teams are playing VERY well
 
You do realize that USC already lost to Bama 52-6. This season. Right?

Yeah, yeah, they're not the same team they were in the beginning of the season. Funny how that same argument doesn't also seem to apply to Penn State...
Uh.......really?

WTF?
 
You do realize that USC already lost to Bama 52-6. This season. Right?

Yeah, yeah, they're not the same team they were in the beginning of the season. Funny how that same argument doesn't also seem to apply to Penn State...
I haven't heard anyone say that argument doesn't apply to Penn State. On the contrary, I think it is widely acknowledged that we are not the same team we were in September.
 
The biggest problem they are going to give us is on our left side of the PSU defensive front seven with that monster they have at right tackle. We need to find a way to neutralize that situation.
 
I haven't heard anyone say that argument doesn't apply to Penn State. On the contrary, I think it is widely acknowledged that we are not the same team we were in September.
Actually, the usual ESPN jackals relentlessly pointed out that we lost to Michigan 49-10, usually w/o the caveat that our Defense was decimated, in their nauseating arguments on how we didn't pass the "Eye Test" and didn't belong in the playoffs.
 
USC's offense was extremely productive in their winning streak. 6 games with 500+ yards of total offense; fairly good balance between run and pass. PSU will need to pressure the QB and can't afford a big deficit.

Relatively, their defense does not appear as strong. Can be run on, or have been by Stanford, Utah, Arizona, Cal, and Notre Dame. Did shut down Washington's run game. I think Barkley has a chance for a big game.

**link to their team stats
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2016-2017/teamgbg.html
 
I did watch USC vs Washington. I can say Bama would have a far more competitive game vs USC.

- It all starts with Sam Darnold on offense. To describe Darnold in terms we can appreciate, I would say Darnold is something like a hybrid of Trace and Hack ; better mobility than Hack, not quite as mobile as Trace. Arm strength a bit less than Hack, but better than Trace. Decides faster than Hack, but maybe not quite as fast as Trace. Probably the most similar guy he compares to in the BIG is a guy we did not see this season, NW's Clayton Thorson.
- Their OL protected Darnold pretty well against UW. I have no firm idea how good the Huskie's DL actually is. The USC run game is OK. They have a couple of decent looking backs, but they appear to be a pass first, run second offense.
- The SC receivers are good, similar to ours in many respects. They use them in middle of the field a lot.
- The SC defense appears to be fast. They used three downlinemen and a standup DE as their base. Looked like a 3 - 4. Their secondary appears similar to tOSU or maybe Michigan. Although they don't have a guy quite like Peppers, Adoree Jackson is a standout. He is also a dangerous returner.

USC is going to be a preseason pick in 2017 by a lot of pundits for the CFP, and I expect some will pick them to win it all.
 
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My concern is that the media will spend a lot of time talking about the sanctions for both teams.
 
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This will be a good measuring stick game heading into next season for both schools. As mentioned, usc is not the same team that lost to bama and they are playing with the same edge we have. There are parallels between the schools in terms of sanctions in recent history and a desire to return to glory ( though their glory years were more recent.) So it will be interesting. They have real athletes (other than osu, likely the best we have seen this year.) What is so great about PSU 2016 is that we also have great athletes, our best in total since the 1990s. It will be a great game.
 
They are not as good as Wisconsin. Main concern would be PSU coming out flat again and getting way behind early. If PSU plays 60 minutes I like their chances. USC has a very accurate QB who can thread the needle. His OL gives hhim tons of time. Their running game is average. Their defense is suspect
 
Go to the quick stuff off play-action. Show them the run and take your lumps. Get 26 out in space and get him rolling on some throws. Kitchen sink.*



*No fleas were flicked in the production of this program.
 
You do realize that USC already lost to Bama 52-6. This season. Right?

Yeah, yeah, they're not the same team they were in the beginning of the season. Funny how that same argument doesn't also seem to apply to Penn State...

I believe we could play with Michigan now and they could play with USC. We played Michigan with a depleted D and USC has a total diiferent offense now.
 
USC's offense was extremely productive in their winning streak. 6 games with 500+ yards of total offense; fairly good balance between run and pass. PSU will need to pressure the QB and can't afford a big deficit.

Relatively, their defense does not appear as strong. Can be run on, or have been by Stanford, Utah, Arizona, Cal, and Notre Dame. Did shut down Washington's run game. I think Barkley has a chance for a big game.

Royboy is right. Living out here on the West Coast and being a Cal alum, I have seen a fair amount of SC this season. Their DL is nothing to write home about. Shit, if Cal can run on them, I sure as hell think the Lions can. The SC corners are really good, though. Trace can't simply put the ball up there for grabs and hope that the PSU WR's win the battle, because that is a high risk proposition with SC's corners. Their safeties are good, too. I want to see Barkley pound the rock, with Trace running a bit to keep them honest.
 
My biggest worry...after seeing them play twice...is that they can get to Trace with 4 down line men....they dont have to blitz alot which means they can drop 7 into coverage, put a safety on Gesecki and bracket Godwin....they are very fast.
Pass defense. The game rests on Pry's scheme to stop the short stuff. Sit back on your heels in zone coverage, letting them hit the seems and this game is over. We're going to need picks. Jump the routes.
 
Telling you right now we wil play this game on d like Michigan state. There gonna give them the underneath stuff and protect the deep ball and seems. Play to give up fg.
 
You do realize that USC already lost to Bama 52-6. This season. Right?

Yeah, yeah, they're not the same team they were in the beginning of the season. Funny how that same argument doesn't also seem to apply to Penn State...
I think it does apply to both teams. they both have improved a ton.
 
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