What's Nolf's next move?
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he took 3rd place at 74kg so he's "on the team" in case dake and burroughs both get hurt. from the linked tweet, he's already qualified for world team trials so no need to get down to 70kg before the open
Yeah--sorry--I didn't mean this year--I don't think he could change his body that fast anyway--just wondering what he'll do next year.
His next move will be called the Piggly Wiggly. 
He said in his interview after the true 3rd place match that he will never see 70kg again, he is a 74kg and intends to get better so he can be the 74kg rep, might consider 79kg.
He next move needs to be getting a lot stronger. You hate to say it but Dake rag-dolled him. That is who he has to beat long/short term.
For the teams sake I hope Dake bumps back to 79 and then Nolf only need beat Imar& JB.
Ragdolled?? Not even close my friend.
Ragdolled?? Not even close my friend.
It would only be IMar, JB will not be around in a few years, it not sooner.
Spoken like someone with extensive ragdolling experience 😉
Pretty simple, add strength and gain experience. His time will come.
So if I understand the tweet above, (this line "Olympic medalists will auto have the (Oly weight) spot.") if the rep medals then they automatically get the spot without wrestling off again at the WTT? I guess it makes sense as a reward but I also can see having to qualify with maybe a bye to the finals.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Yep, lots of time in the weight room to get stronger. Dake is freakishly strong and always has been so Nolf will have to get stronger to have any chance against Dake.
Comparing Nolf to Dake doesn't do justice to Nolf's ability. We just don't know how Nolf compares to the rest of the elite world competition. Maybe he's already elite: certainly his level of success in the past would point to that possibility.
However, just getting stronger isn't going to cut it. You think Burroughs isn't strong? Or all the other guys that Kyle "Dake Bombed" weren't strong? Dake is exceptional, just as Burroughs was exceptional for a decade, and everyone else just has the misfortune of being in that weight class at the same time.
Agree.
It took a little while, but Dake at age 30 surpassed Burroughs at age 32. I’ll remain hopeful and confident that in 3 years a 28 year old Nolf surpasses a 33 year old Dake for the 74kg spot for the 2024 games
Wow. Was that meaningful? One guy says get strength and experience. And you counter it ("However..") by saying strength by itself (i.e., straw man) is not enough because misfortune. So what was your meaning on the OP's topic? Don't get stronger? Be less misfortunate?
#beclear
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Nolf 10-0'd Carr/Wick in his other 2 matches this weekend. There are levels to this. Dake and DT had to wait years out of college to make their first team (though a lot of that had to do with 79KG and 92KG not being added until 2018 also)
Depending on when JB calls it quits or what Dake does in non olympic, he could have a way to the lineup sooner rather than later. Competition is fierce everywhere (don't forget how close Ringer was to Dake in that wrestleoff, McFadden has looked great and Mark will definitely throw his hat in the ring at 79KG)
Freestyle scoring can be so crapshoot sometimes, making what JB Did so special (holding down 74KG for basically a decade)
Depending on when JB calls it quits or what Dake does in non olympic, he could have a way to the lineup sooner rather than later. Competition is fierce everywhere (don't forget how close Ringer was to Dake in that wrestleoff, McFadden has looked great and Mark will definitely throw his hat in the ring at 79KG)
Freestyle scoring can be so crapshoot sometimes, making what JB Did so special (holding down 74KG for basically a decade)
You felt that Nolf was a physical equal to Dake? Interesting.
bold prediction--Nolf will be on Dake's level in 3 years.
I remember watching Ringer get annihilated by Yazdani in some Denver exhibition about 5 years ago. As you pointed out, Ringer got pretty damn good.
70kg = 154 lbs
So Jason dropping to 70kg is just silly talk.
Maybe by 2022 worlds, Dake wants to go back to 79kg ? Easier cut & he can still Dake-Bomb all the foreigners.
So Jason dropping to 70kg is just silly talk.
Maybe by 2022 worlds, Dake wants to go back to 79kg ? Easier cut & he can still Dake-Bomb all the foreigners.
Strength alone doesn't mean a lot at the elite FS level, but the eye test doesn't lie. DT only reached his potential after he bulked up and could counter the sheer power you see at this level. JO, Dake, JB, JC, DT, Snyder, Steveson are all jacked, all have elite power and strength to go along with their other worldly athleticism.
Nolf is my favorite PSU wrestler of all time, but I don't think he or Bo for that matter can reach the upper eschelons of FS without more explosive power. The power that allows you to blow through a defense and secure a single or double despite great defense, the power that lets you defend against a deep single or double, the power that makes a gut effective....
I can't wait to see Nolf remake his body like DT has done, and the results will be scarry. Until then he remains amazing to watch, and can beat 90% of the guys out there. That last 10% is the hardest part of the climb, but I wager he does it, as long as he remains dedicated to doing so.
I stand by my motto. Freestyle takes 3 years to become truly competitive at the world level. 60% building your technique, 40% your physique.
Nolf is my favorite PSU wrestler of all time, but I don't think he or Bo for that matter can reach the upper eschelons of FS without more explosive power. The power that allows you to blow through a defense and secure a single or double despite great defense, the power that lets you defend against a deep single or double, the power that makes a gut effective....
I can't wait to see Nolf remake his body like DT has done, and the results will be scarry. Until then he remains amazing to watch, and can beat 90% of the guys out there. That last 10% is the hardest part of the climb, but I wager he does it, as long as he remains dedicated to doing so.
I stand by my motto. Freestyle takes 3 years to become truly competitive at the world level. 60% building your technique, 40% your physique.
Very few PSU wrestlers are jacked up. Frankie, MM, and Cassar are the only ones that come to mind. It does seem like its not part of the PSU formula while in school. That needs to happen after school as power is what rules internationally.
Matt Brown was jacked up enuf to impress Mike Evans a couple times.
It depends on whether Mike was trying. Only Internet posters can tell us whether he was.
IIRc Nolf just said in his interview after 3rd place match that there is no way he goes back down to 70 kg
Jason's 2 biggest issues are lack of international experience, and working out of underhooks. With one very obvious exception he has struggled with Martinez's underhook, and Dake's bomb was out of the seatbelt position (which is an underhook).
He could stand to get stronger, but he did not get outmuscled by Dake. He got out-techniqued by Dake.
He could stand to get stronger, but he did not get outmuscled by Dake. He got out-techniqued by Dake.
I guess you could look at it that way. I saw a guy toss Nolf to his back and then apply two guts that Nolf couldn't stop. I know that Dake might be the best in the world PFP but that is likely who Nolf has to beat in the next Olympic cycle unless you see Dake going up to 86kg which he could.
The bomb was all technique. Martinez often shoots to get the hook. Dake did the same thing with the ankle pick -- he knew the whizzer was the most likely defense, which gives him the hook. And Dake knows how to throw from the hook, especially when the opponent is off-balance.
Jason needs to figure out that type of technique regardless of the American ahead of him, because Americans aren't the only ones who do that.
Guys who medal, especially gold, could decide to sit out the World Championships later in the year. Enjoy the reward.
Great point, Dake's technique on that sequence was so good that even if Nolf had Snyder's strength he wasn't stopping it based upon how he responded.
Heck, it almost seemd like Dake cheated. He is supposed to stand around and play defense most all the time.
He was so quick off the whistle (almost looked like he beat the whistle) Jason didnt even time to react.
I always get the sense we dont see half of what Dake is capable of.
Of course I seldom see him.
He was so quick off the whistle (almost looked like he beat the whistle) Jason didnt even time to react.
I always get the sense we dont see half of what Dake is capable of.
Of course I seldom see him.
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