Where we stand with Recruits 12/30/15
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I agree with this. I'd say Hamlin and Hudson are both leaning in opposite directions. It will be interesting watching this play out.
You never answered me, how did I act as though anything I say influences a recruit or take credit for influencing a recruit? Besides the fact that it would be a NCAA violation, it's delusional as this is a f'n message board. I can be a vain person, but it's about being right not influencing events. I enjoy summarizing recruiting news and giving my take on what it means. That is all.
BTW I wasn't referencing you at all in the OP. I was talking about Art. You're self important sense of grandiose seems to have gotten the best of you.
Gary has been a lock to Michigan for at least 8 months and his mom is 100% onboard with it. All the rumors about the other schools is just to build up suspense.
I really enjoy your updates. What I am not understanding, though it may have been explained over and over for all I know, is why we are not offering more to big guys for our O and D lines. Again today, we see an offer for an ATH. We just signed one, and I guess we can always benefit from more. But, given what we have seen on the O line and what we may be faced with on the D line, gimme some big guys, please.
Don't believe we need more linemen, especially on the d-line. We recruited 3 DE's last year (Bucholtz, Miller, Givens) and 3 more this year (Simmons, Joseph, Brown); 2 DT's last year (Windsor, Carter) and 3 this year (Jordan, Dwomfor, Dioubate). That's a pretty nice haul. On o-line, 4 last year (Palmer, Jenkins, Gonzales, Bates) and 4 this year (Menet, McGovern, Fries, Gellerstadt) plus 4 in the class of 2014 (Beh, Sorrell, Wright, Brosnan). I certainly would not be opposed to adding another lineman on either side of the ball but only if they are a legit player and that likely means someone who is committed elsewhere right now. Conversely there are still quite a few really nice athletes out there who will be very good college players such as Hamlin, Nixon, White, Hudson, the WR from TN, Fuller... all are big time athletes.
He's 2017. We are in really well with big guys for 2017 already. I am confident they will lock down another good class of big guys.
The OL recruit number sound like a lot until you realize that if you average 23 recruits per year (and end up with 85 scholarships each year due to early departures to NFL, transfers, etc) then you recruit basically a whole team each year 22 starters and a specialist. For the OL that is 5 recruits per year, and we have not recruited 5 in any year recently. And we know that we took some project kids in 2014 that may not play. And Palmer is just a 2 year player so don't we have to count him as 1/2 a recruit numbers wise? I believe we are short on OL bodies still. At 85 scholarships total that is almost 4 whole teams. Given the fact that you have to have at least 4 QB and more than RB's, maybe a little over three teams, 16-17 OL on scholarship, would be good. I count 13 that could return for 2016 from the current roster (Bates, Beh, Brosnan, Dowrey, Gaia, Gonzalez, Jenkins, Laurent, Mahon, Nelson, Palmer, Sorrell, and Wright). If a couple of Dowrey, Gaia, and Laurent do not come back for 2016 or there is a transfer from the others, unknown to us at this time, we may still be short on the OL.
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OL rarely play as true frosh. I'm comfortable with 17 and 4 per year. QB,TE and LB are just
as big a need.
So when Connor McGovern arrives for practice, you are saying that Laurent, Gaia, Dowrey, and Mahon are better? Or is he "not ready".
"Not ready" always makes me laugh: Either you are one of the best five, or you are not one of the best five.
What do you think it'll be like when we start winning 9, 10, 11 games .... Unfortunately you need the horses before you can pull the cart. After next year we should have close to a full stable of horses.
Comprende "rarely?" We heard glowing reports about Mahon after his Army All-Star game. And, yes
they will all be better than McGovern next fall. I'd look for Bates and Gonzalez for help before the true frosh. With
the possible exception of Menet.
I'm comfortable with 17 as well. But its unlikely we will have 17 next year and since we have not averaged 4 per year over the last 4 years I'd be all for 5 this year, especially if CJF forecasts any attrition from the 2014 class....Given that the vast majority of OL redshirt as freshmen, that is why I believe you need more like 17 or 18 on the roster, as opposed to 14 or 15.......
And with Breneman leaving, and other surprises to the roster likely, we may see 24 or 25 in the 2016 class, considerably more that what we thought 6 months ago.... room for many of the talented kids we know about and one or two Brown/Windsor's...
I always feel like we are short of O-lineman. Would like another couple killer guys there
If you think Mahon, Gaia, Laurent, and Dowrey are going to be better than Gonzalez, Menet, McGovern and Bates, then you are insane. And "rarely" is factually incorrect: MANY teams started true and redshirt freshmen this year, including Washington and Wisconsin, and countless other teams.
You have reading comprehension issues. Not going to argue with you when you have difficulty understanding
what I type.
For sure we need another LB. And only having scholarship 3 QB's next year is scary. It would be great if CJF could pull in a surprise QB flip, but short of that taking 2 good one's in 2017 seems like the plan.
At TE, having 4 on scholarship is really a 4 deep at the position which 85 sholarships would math out to. But to redshirt 1 leaves you short. It would nice to have a walkon TE on the team at all times for emergencies. I would also like to see us get back to using an OL as a TE in running downs (short yardage). Mennet, being very athletic, would be a great player for that and is probably athletic enough to catch a pass as well. I seem to remember Joe having some OL guys line up at TE.
I thought CJF might make a late push for Davis (committed recently to MD) or one of the other DC/MD/VA OL kids that were still available.... But doesn't look likely now.
Valentin (PA) is not committed yet....
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Congrats "21".....NEVER change - you are a treasure!
Doesn't that kind of say that some of the 5th year OL won't be back?
The next few weeks will be a fun ride to see where we end up in the recruiting cycle! I guess we will be getting a few players that we haven't been hearing too much about..
With this decommit and maybe Nordin, combined with a few players leaving the program, we could end up with 25 recruits when it is all said and done.. Like I said, "its going to be a fun ride"..
With this decommit and maybe Nordin, combined with a few players leaving the program, we could end up with 25 recruits when it is all said and done.. Like I said, "its going to be a fun ride"..
Man this stinks. Didn't think that was going to happen, really thought he was taking those visits just to see something else since he hadn't been able to before.
Obviously we need to replace him if we can in this class, but Wheeler is no Dioubate. I don't know if there is a kid out there we could convince but that hurts.
That said, we have some talented kids on the roster that Chaos will have the opportunity to really coach up in Bucholz, Carter, White, Cothren, and Windsor.
SAN ANTONIO, Texas - Four-star 2017 wide receiver Mark Webb out of Philadelphia (Penn.) Archbishop Wood checked in at the Army Combine and he looked like a four-star wide receiver. A long 6-foot-2, 200-pounder Webb lists offers from Penn State, North Carolina, West Virginia, Boston College, Wake Forest, Rutgers and Temple.
Currently, Webb lists North Carolina and Penn State atop his list.
Currently, Webb lists North Carolina and Penn State atop his list.
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