By traditional, I mean over the last 50 years, not just the last 10. Therefore, Penn State would be there. Where would you put Penn State and who might be higher?
Which colleges would you list as being traditional college football powers?
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So from 1965 to date. I'll limit it to 8.
Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Penn State, ND, Texas, Ohio State.
I think I'd add FSU & Michigan to that. I'd be hard put to actually rank them.
1. Penn State
2. Not Pitt
3. Not Pitt
4. Not Pitt
5. Not Pitt
6. Not Pitt
7. Not Pitt. Ever.
8. Pitt
9. Lol, jk about 8, never ever Pitt
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123. Still not Pitt
2. Not Pitt
3. Not Pitt
4. Not Pitt
5. Not Pitt
6. Not Pitt
7. Not Pitt. Ever.
8. Pitt
9. Lol, jk about 8, never ever Pitt
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123. Still not Pitt
PSU, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, OSU, Michigan, USC, ND maybe Tennessee (not in any order)
50 years is ancient. Maybe 20 years is ancient. I can tell you from the tone of national media State is definitely a has been..... JF we need you to correct that perception.
The teams have already been named (USC, Bama, OSU, Michigan, OU, Texas, Penn St, and ND plus you could add a few other teams based on which decade they were really good....FSU, LSU, Georgia, etc. but this link can be used as one metric to rank the list...
http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_total.cfm?sort=totapp&from=1965&to=2014#.VbKUbPlvmk8
Perhaps my bias is showing, but how does Michigan really fit in? It had a great season in 1997 and a good one in 2006, but lost its bowl game. It very often loses its bowl game. Were it not for Michigan's "favored" status in the conference, and some considerable help from Honig & Friends, the Wolverines would be more like UCLA than USC as a national power.
Ohio State is the only true consistent Midwest national power, although ND used to be worthy of sharing such a nod.
Penn State was, and soon will be again, the only Eastern national power.
Alabama, LSU, a slipping Georgia, and a nearly off-the-cliff Tennessee could be considered consistent Southern powers.
Oklahoma and a struggling Texas are the only Southwest powerhouses. Nebraska used to be great until Texas and the new Big 12 ended the Husker ability to stockpile non-qualifiers like bottled water. It may never return to the big stage again ... ever.
And the West gives really only USC, as Oregon's glitz and glamour really haven't produced a national title yet.
Thus, I vote with "mn78psu83" except for the Huskers.
Ohio State is the only true consistent Midwest national power, although ND used to be worthy of sharing such a nod.
Penn State was, and soon will be again, the only Eastern national power.
Alabama, LSU, a slipping Georgia, and a nearly off-the-cliff Tennessee could be considered consistent Southern powers.
Oklahoma and a struggling Texas are the only Southwest powerhouses. Nebraska used to be great until Texas and the new Big 12 ended the Husker ability to stockpile non-qualifiers like bottled water. It may never return to the big stage again ... ever.
And the West gives really only USC, as Oregon's glitz and glamour really haven't produced a national title yet.
Thus, I vote with "mn78psu83" except for the Huskers.
The question asked about traditional CFB powers. How in the world do you measure a traditional anything without talking about a significant period of time?
I like this metric, but 50 years is too long. Below is the link for 20 years and it seems about right.
http://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_total.cfm?sort=totapp&from=1994&to=2014#.VbKX-LWwJc0
That is a very good point... maybe traditional means more than one generation. Does that put it at 25 years?
Hey Pitt just got a 2016 verbal today from Bryce Hargrove, a 6ft 5" 260 lb DE out of Ohio. He had Ivy League offers but it came down to Pitt or Rutgers. Poor Kyle Flood. Kid had no stars and he lost out to PITT. Our #Big Rivals are clawing and scratching with Narduzzi the winner, this time.
Perhaps. It's really subjective. For instance, in the link in your other post, for 20 years, it has Kansas State ahead of us. Now maybe it's my blue and white glasses showing, but I don't think too many people outside Manhattan, KS would consider Kansas State more of a CFB power than Penn State. Things other than winning percentage go into it.
If you are talking who has the most valuable brands in CFB, then winning percentage and poll votes are not directly relevent. For example, Michigan, ND, and PSU have all been relatively quiet for the last 20 years, but they are all certainly in the top 10 national CFB brands. Maybe we need to factor in merchandise sales, TV viewers, game attendance figures?
Yep, that's what I'm talking about, CFB brands. That's what I took the OP to mean, the top CFB brands. To me, you measure that over decades and decades.
Traditional powers in college football would include: Southern Cal, michigan, Ohio state, penn state, nebraska, Alabama, Tennessee, florida state, miami, LSU and Georgia.
I think the top 10 schools in wins (Not in order): Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Nebraska, and Tennessee.
After that depending on how far you go back in time: Georgia, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Auburn and Miami. Depending on your time frame a few of those six teams have been better than the winningest top 10 schools.
After that depending on how far you go back in time: Georgia, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Auburn and Miami. Depending on your time frame a few of those six teams have been better than the winningest top 10 schools.
Good point. FSU and Miami can lay claim to dominance for stretches. FSU was 109-13-1 in the 90s. I'd call that dominant.
Let's be honest, PSU left this conversation in 2000, and has only really contended twice since then.
