Which players would be on the All-Franklin PSU team?

[saturdaysarebetter2]

Which players would be on the All-Franklin PSU team? Some are obviously easy choices.

McSorley - QB, Barkley - RB, Gesicki - TE, Fashanu - OT

Parsons - LB, Allen - S, Porter - CB

Barkley - KR, Hardy - PR, Gillikin - P, Pinegar - K

The harder choices. Who makes the All-Franklin starting lineup?

WR: Dotson, Godwin, Hamilton, Washington, Hamler, Thompkins

OL: Walker, Mahan, Bates, McGovern, Menet, Smith, Scruggs, Fries, Nourzad

DL: Zettel, Toney, Johnson, Miller, Gross-Matos, Robinson, Isaac, Sickels, Ebikstie, Givens

LB: Cabinda, Smith, Carter, Jacobs

DB: Castro-Fields, Taylor, Haley, Oruwariye, Brown, King, Brisker, Amos

Anyone else?

 

[voltz99]

Which players would be on the All-Franklin PSU team? Some are obviously easy choices.

McSorley - QB, Barkley - RB, Gesicki - TE, Fashanu - OT

Parsons - LB, Allen - S, Porter - CB

Barkley - KR, Hardy - PR, Gillikin - P, Pinegar - K

The harder choices. Who makes the All-Franklin starting lineup?

WR: Dotson, Godwin, Hamilton, Washington, Hamler, Thompkins

OL: Walker, Mahan, Bates, McGovern, Menet, Smith, Scruggs, Fries, Nourzad

DL: Zettel, Toney, Johnson, Miller, Gross-Matos, Robinson, Isaac, Sickels, Ebikstie, Givens

LB: Cabinda, Smith, Carter, Jacobs

DB: Castro-Fields, Taylor, Haley, Oruwariye, Brown, King, Brisker, Amos

Anyone else?

Nassib at DE.

Not sure who is starting at safety with Brown, Amos, Brisker and Allen.

Nick Scott, Jordan Lucas, Apke and probably a few others played in the NFL. Malik Golden had a good sr year. I think he was with the Steelers for a bit. That is probably our best position group.

 

[The Spin Meister]

John Urshel. May be the best O lineman and certainly best student.

 

[19333lion]

How about Justin Fields?

 

[scrivener]

Which players would be on the All-Franklin PSU team? Some are obviously easy choices.

McSorley - QB, Barkley - RB, Gesicki - TE, Fashanu - OT

Parsons - LB, Allen - S, Porter - CB

Barkley - KR, Hardy - PR, Gillikin - P, Pinegar - K

The harder choices. Who makes the All-Franklin starting lineup?

WR: Dotson, Godwin, Hamilton, Washington, Hamler, Thompkins

OL: Walker, Mahan, Bates, McGovern, Menet, Smith, Scruggs, Fries, Nourzad

DL: Zettel, Toney, Johnson, Miller, Gross-Matos, Robinson, Isaac, Sickels, Ebikstie, Givens

LB: Cabinda, Smith, Carter, Jacobs

DB: Castro-Fields, Taylor, Haley, Oruwariye, Brown, King, Brisker, Amos

Anyone else?

Pat Friermuth should be on as well.

 

[saturdaysarebetter2]

John Urshel. May be the best O lineman and certainly best student.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Urschel's last year was 2013. Franklin started at PSU in 2014.

 

[The Spin Meister]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Urschel's last year was 2013. Franklin started at PSU in 2014.

Didn’t realize it was that long ago.

 

[voltz99]

Didn’t realize it was that long ago.

Here is our OL depth chart that year. I think that was the spring we only had about 7 scholly OL in camp. 2 DTs moved to OL and started. Kind of a miracle we did not have a losing season. 5 walk ons on the depth chart. When a OT went down the backup was the CENTER.

LT	Donovan Smith (Jr.)	Albert Hall (So.)	Chance Sorrell (Fr.)
LG	Derek Dowrey (So.)	Noah Beh (Fr.)	Andrew Terlingo (Fr.)
C	Angelo Mangrio (Jr.)	Wendy Laurent (So.)	Tom Devenney (Fr.)
RG	Brian Gaia (So.)	Brendan Mahon (Fr.)	Steve Meyers (Fr.)
RT	Andrew Nelson (Fr.)	Chasz Wright (Fr.)	Evan Galimberti (Fr.)

 

[Nittany1997]

It would have been nice if Devon Smith was eligible for this roster. Speed kills.

 

[PSUPride1]

It would have been nice if Devon Smith was eligible for this roster. Speed kills.

If memory serves didn't he always tackle himself just before he got going.

 

[87 Penn St8]

2nd RB w/ Barkley? Miles Sanders is obvious but after him I'm brainfarting that nobody jumps to mind....which says a lot about our relative mediocrity at that position and my aging brain!

Hopefully Kaytron or Nick step up to fill that void for more options....

 

[Gitzit]

DL .Sickles, Schwan, Zettle, Johnson, Miller, Nassib were on the team before Franklin got here, so not Franklins.

 

[Monty2007]

2nd RB w/ Barkley? Miles Sanders is obvious but after him I'm brainfarting that nobody jumps to mind....which says a lot about our relative mediocrity at that position and my aging brain!

Hopefully Kaytron or Nick step up to fill that void for more options....

Journey Brown, retired to early.

 

[Gitzit]

Givens and Mustipher the only difference makers at DT in 11 years ,ugh

 

[lowhandicapper]

Pat Friermuth should be on as well.

I don't think it is even close that PF would be the TE over Gesicki. PF is a way better overall TE than MG, that's why he started in the NFL half way thru his rookie year. However, I would have Geisicki as WR3 - slot/H type player starting over Hamilton and Hamler.
MG was a good big play guy but he had tons of weapons around him that teams had to account for which opened him up a bit more. The last thing opposing teams were worried about was MG, they were more focused on Godwin, Hamilton, Barkley & McSorely. Pick your poison.
Damn shame that 2017 team couldn't find a way. They had as much high end offensive talent as anyone, just not a complete a team.

 

[saturdaysarebetter2]

I don't think it is even close that PF would be the TE over Gesicki. PF is a way better overall TE than MG, that's why he started in the NFL half way thru his rookie year. However, I would have Geisicki as WR3 - slot/H type player starting over Hamilton and Hamler.
MG was a good big play guy but he had tons of weapons around him that teams had to account for which opened him up a bit more. The last thing opposing teams were worried about was MG, they were more focused on Godwin, Hamilton, Barkley & McSorely. Pick your poison.
Damn shame that 2017 team couldn't find a way. They had as much high end offensive talent as anyone, just not a complete a team.

Had Freirmuth stayed for his senior season, I'd agree with you. PF's high receiving totals were: 43 catches 507 yards in 2019 with 8 td's in 2018. Gesicki's high receiving totals were: 57 catches (he also had 48 another year) for 679 yards with 9 td's.

Career wise: PF: 92-1185-16 MG: 129-1481-15 Gesicki's numbers were clearly better for single season and career.

 

[blair10]

Journey Brown, retired to early.

Excluding Nick Singleton and Kaytron Allen (whose careers are still in progress), Journey Brown belongs in that first tier of running backs during Franklin’s tenure.

1 - Barkley
2 - Sanders
3 - Brown

By the way, Journey Brown played the same number of seasons as Micah Parsons.

 

[lowhandicapper]

Had Freirmuth stayed for his senior season, I'd agree with you. PF's high receiving totals were: 43 catches 507 yards in 2019 with 8 td's in 2018. Gesicki's high receiving totals were: 57 catches (he also had 48 another year) for 679 yards with 9 td's.

Career wise: PF: 92-1185-16 MG: 129-1481-15 Gesicki's numbers were clearly better for single season and career.

Numbers never tell the whole story.
There is no football coach that would say MG is a better overall TE than PF. Not a one, because he's not.
PF played 2.75 seasons
MG played 4 seasons.
PF's last year was in the shortened covid year were Levis and Clifford couldn't complete a basic out pattern and they played 3-4 less games.
I saw a stat from PFF that PF never dropped a red zone target in his entire PSU career. That's a stat that doesn't show up except in scout's notes.
As I said before, this one isn't even close.

 

[87 Penn St8]

Journey Brown, retired to early.

That was exactly the disconnect. My brain started thinking pros...and then went to Franklin's pre-Saquon backs Zwinak...Mark Allen...Belton?...

Journey was just hitting his stride when his playing career ended. Tough break but fortunate to have had condition discovered.