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Why bother playing the games...

NY Post put a ton of work into this article so I guess I should empty the bank account on this bet.

Don't bet on the new-look Penn State to reach old heights - New York Post https://apple.news/AlXoFz6FkQ3-en1KWqguSMg

Whew... thanks for the heads-up! Here I was thinking 11-1 was halfway realistic but now I understand that we're gonna have a hard time beating anybody with a pulse... so I won't be planning my Saturdays around the gang of blue and white...

Think I'll pretend leaves fall down here in florida and get to raking. Yep, that's the ticket! Cuz lordie lordie, those folks know that we'll be lucky to win 9. And they are so smart at that rag that not following their sage advice is emotional suicide...

think i'll start rooting for buttgers...
 
They may be sitting @ #30 today solely based on quantity, but this class is not going to end up in the top 50.

I respect Jay and I think he wasn't an awful QB coach (Mike Robinson and Daryll Clark would agree with me). He had big success and some awful failures.

But as a recruiter, Jay was THEE WORST. Terrible. Brutal. He couldn't recruit a dog onto a meat wagon. And we suffered BADLY because of it.

If you can't bring in the talent, you're cooked. A bad coach can mess it up, but give the best coach a no-talent roster, and life is going to suck.

Pat saw his rankings go up when he recently added two recruits so the brillant defensive mind sudenly saw a way to get in the Top 20. Presto!... add more kids!
 
NY Post put a ton of work into this article so I guess I should empty the bank account on this bet.

Don't bet on the new-look Penn State to reach old heights - New York Post https://apple.news/AlXoFz6FkQ3-en1KWqguSMg

With the return of Reid and the reinstatement of Bowen, we're be up to 5 returning starters on defense. I can list a dozen other guys with experience and talent who are a year older, faster, stronger. Guys like Shaka Toney, Amani Oruwariye, Simmons, Castro-Fields, Wade.

On offense, the fact they moved Tompkins into the slot tells me that Johnson and Shorter are going to be on the field a lot together. That's exciting! And I'm still pumped up about Hamler. And I haven't forgotten about Polk. Sanders and Allen should be capable receivers out of the backfield. I look forward to seeing what kind of player Journey Brown is. How are we going to use Slade? I hope they can find a few ways to create mismatches for the Lion. I'll settle for a TE that can block, but I think we'll get a little more than that.

The schedule is very favorable, though difficult. As well as Franklin recruits, he's even better at developing talent. This should be a very good team if they find a decent kicker!
 
NY Post put a ton of work into this article so I guess I should empty the bank account on this bet.

Don't bet on the new-look Penn State to reach old heights - New York Post https://apple.news/AlXoFz6FkQ3-en1KWqguSMg

Lighten up Francis.

If the Post said that PSU would win every game then what would be the point of "even playing the games?"
 
Relax people, it's not even a NY Post article. It's an article syndicated from a Vegas gambling site. It's just a bookie giving his opinion on why to bet under 9.5 wins.
 
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The number is pretty high for so few returning starters.. makes me even more confident in the over. Not betting it.. but I'm a firm believer that this team starts in a much better place than 2016 and has a higher ceiling than that team. I don't think we'll be as good as 2017 but that doesn't mean we can't win more games and get to the playoff. Last year's team was a legit national championship contender and it still hurts a bit coming up short. I think that edge will stick with all the returning players. 14-0 the last two seasons at home. Seems like the odds are better that we won't lose two at home in the same season.
 
Relax people, it's not even a NY Post article. It's an article syndicated from a Vegas gambling site. It's just a bookie giving his opinion on why to bet under 9.5 wins.
Agree. 9-3 looks pretty realistic. But that article, again, seems like it was written by some gal working at Hooters. Its all about the skill positions and analytical numbers (how many return). There is no conversation about the improved OL, the maturity gained at DE and the depth at WR and in the DBackfield. All in all, I think this reflects the opinion of most of the college football world outside of HV.
 
I will gladly take the over. Penn State has lost 1 home game total the last 3 years. (2015 Michigan)

Away schedule.
Pitt
Illinois
Indiana
Michigan
Rutgers

The schedule has good teams, but seems to set up perfectly.
 
Agree. 9-3 looks pretty realistic. But that article, again, seems like it was written by some gal working at Hooters. Its all about the skill positions and analytical numbers (how many return). There is no conversation about the improved OL, the maturity gained at DE and the depth at WR and in the DBackfield. All in all, I think this reflects the opinion of most of the college football world outside of HV.

I was just going to make the same point. So many of these preseason articles focus on lost or returning skill position players on offense. Smart people understand that the Oline is the key. As a group, they make up 45% of your offense. I haven't felt this good about our Oline going into a new season in a decade. Fries, Gonzo, Menet, McGovern, Bates seems pretty formidable to me.
 
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9-3 is not an unfavorable prediction for any team facing this schedule.

However, the typical returning-starters analysis doesn't really apply to this team because of the way Pry rotates on defense. Givens, Windsor, Scott, Reid and Oruwariye are new starters but they've played a ton of big-time football and nothing's going to fool them.

Loss of Barkley is huge. The offense should operate well but when they need a play at crunch time in a big game, the last two seasons Barkley and Hamilton were often the ones to make the play. So that will have to come from Sanders, Johnson, Thompkins and others. As long as Pry can plug the holes at LB and find two new people to rotate in at tackle, it's the offense that's the question mark for me.
 
lol--people are mad that he picked us to go 9-3...I was expecting the "article" to have us at 7-5 or something. Don't we all agree 8-12 wins is possible with 9 or 10 most likely and 8 or 12 pretty unlikely though not impossible?
 
9-3 is not an unfavorable prediction for any team facing this schedule.

However, the typical returning-starters analysis doesn't really apply to this team because of the way Pry rotates on defense. Givens, Windsor, Scott, Reid and Oruwariye are new starters but they've played a ton of big-time football and nothing's going to fool them.

Loss of Barkley is huge. The offense should operate well but when they need a play at crunch time in a big game, the last two seasons Barkley and Hamilton were often the ones to make the play. So that will have to come from Sanders, Johnson, Thompkins and others. As long as Pry can plug the holes at LB and find two new people to rotate in at tackle, it's the offense that's the question mark for me.
When I analyze a football team, I always start with the most important position, which is qb. PSU will have a qb who will be a three-year starter who has posted a 22-5 record in the past two seasons and played in the Rose and Fiesta Bowls, as well as in tough environments like Ann Arbor, Iowa City, Columbus and East Lansing. How many teams in the country have a returning qb with that experience and success?

Next, I focus on the two lines. It is my expectation that the o-line, if they can stay healthy, will be a strength for this team. I'll have to take a wait-and-see approach with the d-line.

Barkley was a once every decade to two decade player for a school like PSU. However, with the qb whom we have and the expected good o-line, I trust that we'll have enough talented skill players to challenge almost any defense we play. If the defense is even competent, we should have a legitimate chance in every game. However, college football is becoming more like the NFL, in that even the really good teams most likely are going to lose at least 2 games because the talent is move-evenly distributed than it was 30 and 40 years ago.
 
NY Post put a ton of work into this article so I guess I should empty the bank account on this bet.

Don't bet on the new-look Penn State to reach old heights - New York Post https://apple.news/AlXoFz6FkQ3-en1KWqguSMg
Listen, New Yorkers and New York journalists know as much about college football as I do about a cricket match, i.e. next to nothing. New York is one of the worst college sports towns in the nation.
 
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Michigan has the week off before. At this point I ‘m looking at a L.
But we’ll see.
Michigan may have the best defense in college football this year. They have some good athletes on offense but haven't been able to put it together. They had an inexperienced line and a bad QB. This year, they get the QB from Mississippi who is highly regarded. I have no idea what to expect from UM's offense but the D will keep them in every game.
 
Michigan may have the best defense in college football this year. They have some good athletes on offense but haven't been able to put it together. They had an inexperienced line and a bad QB. This year, they get the QB from Mississippi who is highly regarded. I have no idea what to expect from UM's offense but the D will keep them in every game.

Shea Patterson is the key--if he turns into a legit star as many believe Michigan is a scary opponent because of that defense. If he turns into Max Browne we should win with ease. That game isn't until November--we'll know a lot more heading into that one. Michigan has tough road games at Notre Dame, Northwestern and Michigan State. I mean, Michigan has Wisconsin, Michigan State, a bye then us in a row...we should know everything we need to know about them by then. They'll either be sky high or they may have packed it in
 
Shea Patterson is the key--if he turns into a legit star as many believe Michigan is a scary opponent because of that defense. If he turns into Max Browne we should win with ease. That game isn't until November--we'll know a lot more heading into that one. Michigan has tough road games at Notre Dame, Northwestern and Michigan State. I mean, Michigan has Wisconsin, Michigan State, a bye then us in a row...we should know everything we need to know about them by then. They'll either be sky high or they may have packed it in
yeah..and that ND game is their first game (9-1) without a lot of time to get a new QB and offense set. ND is set at #11 in the ESPN preseason poll while UM is at 14.
 
tough schedule no doubt, but 2 losses at home? don't see it

I'd set the over/under at 10.5, and probably go over
 
tough schedule no doubt, but 2 losses at home? don't see it

I'd set the over/under at 10.5, and probably go over
Agree. I think 10-2 is a reasonable expectation for this team. 9-3 is acceptable given the status of our lack of experience on D. Anything worse is failure (assuming decent health). 11-1 or 12-0 would be, obviously, awesome and not outside the realm of possibilities if some kids over perform. It happens every year to a team or two.
 
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