Oh boy, their defensive scheme and execution surely sucked.
As an aside, wonder if Lebron thinks "it's the shoes"?
As an aside, wonder if Lebron thinks "it's the shoes"?
Wonder which OSU defensive coach will survive off-season 'cuts'
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I know you're joking but if they lose next year to Michigan in any fashion he might be gone. They won't tolerate being 2nd to Michigan or anyone else.
So many experts here have touted Ryan Day as one of the very best coaches in college football.
Did he forget how to coach today? Perhaps ole Jim Harbaugh isn't such a bad coach either.
He landed on third base as if often said.
Most important question: how long before Harbaugh goes back to the NFL?
If Michigan were to win the cfp, I'd say 100% "he gone".
Now, I think it's 50/50.
Harbaugh has done well. Very well.
If Michigan were to win the cfp, I'd say 100% "he gone".
Now, I think it's 50/50.
Harbaugh has done well. Very well.
That's a good question
Do you think he'd give up the complete control he has at Michigan?
I feel like it would have to be a great opportunity with an elite QB or a top 5 pick to get a QB if he likes one. I don't like any of them lol
I have to think Larry Johnson may be forced to retire. OSU DL hasn't been up to par since Chase Young. LBs don't seem dynamic either.
He would have took the Vikings and Cousins if they offered the job this past off season reportedly.
I think it ails him that he couldn't win the Super Bowl as a HC. He practically tanked all the playoff goodwill in recruiting for the interview.
Agreed--his ego can't accept that he didn't win a SB. I think Minnesota would have been a good fit last year. Although I like Cousins more than most. Don't think he can win a SB but might be able to win the NFC this year.
Worse QBs have rings than Cousins, but in the current QB-centric league I can see why Minnesota went with Connell. Shifted from Cook to Jefferson as the focus.
Adding Hockenson was huge as well. If you double Jefferson good luck stopping TJ, Theilen and Cook
Despite what some experts here may think, Harbaugh is a good football coach.
Made a Super Bowl as well. Jimmer is dancing to the beat of a different drummer. but he is an excellent coach.
Apparently the Cowboys didn’t have any trouble. Jefferson 3 catches for 33 yards. 2 for 21 last year.
Harbaugh is a good coach; just a miserable person. Day has one of the best QBs and the best receiver in college in Harrison and several other good WRs and he coached way too conservatively today IMO. Of course the defensive breakdowns were inexcusable.
Serious question.....
What kind of idiot brings in a defensive coach from the Big 12?
What kind of idiot brings in a defensive coach from the Big 12?
Ohio State used to always have some dudes on defense. They haven't had a dude in a couple years. Yeah they have some good defensive players but that's about it. There aren't any Shazier or Jenkins or Bosa's or Laurenitis or Hawk or Gholston on these teams.
Zach Harrison is a very pedestrian top 5 rated recruit.
Is this the result of an offensive minded coach? The fruits of 3 or so years under that type of leadership?
Zach Harrison is a very pedestrian top 5 rated recruit.
Is this the result of an offensive minded coach? The fruits of 3 or so years under that type of leadership?
Day has more in common with Lincoln Riley than Meyer, but they generally score enough in all but 1 game a year.
Give UM's OL credit. After they settled down and got to work, they blocked extremely well in both run and pass protection. Their center, Oluwatimi is incredible they way he pulled and sealed the edge blocking Eichenberg on Edwards first TD run. He then knocked a safety or LB out of the way for Edwards second TD run. A work of art in run blocking for sure.
J.T. Tuimoloau single handedly beat Penn State this year, but your point is well taken.
I'm pretty excited about PSU for next year - Lions definitely have some dudes on defense. If we get the QB play we are hoping for, next season could be allot of fun.
I don’t know his role in the defense of playcalling or the scheme, but I’d get rid of your defensive coordinator and your linebacker coach first. Your linebackers weren’t good enough to stop the running game so you had to commit safeties into the box
You said it all my man! You said it all.... Boy, I am really concerned Allar is Hackenberg 2.0. We need him to be more JJ McCarthy like. If he is a stand in the pocket and pass guy and the defense does not need to be concerned with him beating you with his legs we are stuck at 8-4 to 10-2 zone again. In this division that gets you nothing. I just hope the staff gives Veillaux a real long look because his performance against Rutgers (I know it's Rutgers) last fall was very smooth. Let's hope for the best!
He sure did but he hasn't shown consistent dominance like the dudes I mentioned. Those guys were the best at their position in the country. JT had one great game. He only has 3.5 sacks on the season. I'm not even sure that gets him to 2nd team all-conference, although that prime performance against PSU will help with the optics, which post season awards have a lot to do with. I don't think OSU will land one defender on the 1st team all-conference and that's a problem for them
OSU doesn't have dudes on defense and has a coordinator from the Big 12, it's a double negative.
Safeties coach will (should) be one sacrificial lamb. DB coach perhaps next ... then LB coach. Is it Larry Johnson's time? Not sure. Or, is it all scheme?
Big plays have killed them two years in a row. Honestly, defense hasn't looked right for awhile.
Or, like Bama and A&M, has the money somewhat spoiled the players? Don't see the killer instinct in that group.
Big plays have killed them two years in a row. Honestly, defense hasn't looked right for awhile.
Or, like Bama and A&M, has the money somewhat spoiled the players? Don't see the killer instinct in that group.
You can't play 4-2-5 vs a power running team.
It semi-worked in the first half when the defense was fresh, but they gave up the big plays that kept Michigan in it.
Second half, they started pin and pull more and OSU had no answer. Same boat as us, 2 LBs on the field and one used to be a RB.
It semi-worked in the first half when the defense was fresh, but they gave up the big plays that kept Michigan in it.
Second half, they started pin and pull more and OSU had no answer. Same boat as us, 2 LBs on the field and one used to be a RB.
Did you watch the TD passes that McCarthy had yesterday? They looked like punts more than passes, The OSU CBs were so bad and so far out of position that any QB could have made those passes. For all of the accolades that he is getting he only completed 12 passes against a secondary that doesn't even belong in the power 5 much less a play off contending team.
Jim Knowles is being paid 2M to provide a defense for that game. He and Ryan Day made Franklin on his worst day look like a Lomdardi/Shula/Walsh reincarnation yesterday.
I know you can’t “take them away“ but if you do take out the three long passes, because twice the receiver was 10 yards from the nearest defender, and the other, he broke a tackle, and no one was within 20 yards after that, JJ looked rather mediocre.
They have dudes. They don't have coaching. Their recruiting classes have been #1, 2 or 3 for as long as we can all remember, every single year. They have more 5 stars than the entire big 10 combined. If they don't have dudes, it's because they aren't getting coached not because they lack talent.
The line of scrimmage is still the battleground for wins and losses, a lesson both Day and Franklin need to learn.
Fair points but JJ also was able to deliver in the ground game and that is the part that concerns me about Allar.
Usually, OSU has enough offensive firepower to get away with this - they get far enough ahead to force an opponent out of their running game.
From what I saw of the first half of the OSU-UM game, I thought that the Buckeyes had a chance to do this early but got sloppy (settle for a FG from the UM 14 on their second possession, screw up a 4th and 2 in plus territory on their next possession - could have had a 21-3 lead possibly) and then started giving up long pass plays (what's the point of the 4-2-5 if you do that?) that let Michigan in the game.
Not that UM wasn't the better team, but OSU could have made it a different game early.
It's hard to have a good feel for what Allar will do running, though my guess is that he won't be great at RPO or planned runs but will be an effective scrambler.
The plus is that, unlike in 2020 and 2021 with Clifford, when sometimes he was by necessity PSU's leading rusher in a given game, Drew will have great backs to hand off to, and a Oline that can create space for them.
