WOW - PSU Chokes Away TWO Lax Games At Home Vs UMich!

[ILLINOISLION]

First the Men lose a late lead and lose in OT.

Then the Women blow a big five goal early lead, then re-take the lead with 27.7 seconds left and are awarded possession because of a UMich foul. Running out the clock, they have an unforced turnover and give up a tying goal with 6.2 seconds left. Then give up the winning goal on a shot that may or may not have been released before the clock hit 0.0. Incredible.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Refarines

 

[Delco Lion]

The men's team has underachieved for years. No excuse with the talent in PA, MD, NJ, and NY.

 

[BobPSU92]

The men's team has underachieved for years. No excuse with the talent in PA, MD, NJ, and NY.

I thought they hired a good coach a few years ago (Tambroni?).

 

[sluggo72]

I thought they hired a good coach a few years ago (Tambroni?).

if they make a change look for the Utah coach to be the next HC at PSU

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I just saw the women’s finish ...Un be lievable!

Missy has a melt down on her hands. I hope she can turn it around going into next week.

Defense has been PSU WLAX's Achilles heel all season. I didn't see today's game, but it sounds as though the defense messed up at the end.

I believe that's PSU WLAX's first loss to Michigan.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Defense has been PSU WLAX's Achilles heel all season. I didn't see today's game, but it sounds as though the defense messed up at the end.

I believe that's PSU WLAX's first loss to Michigan.

Tom, among the most brutal losses I’ve ever seen in ANY sport.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Tom, among the most brutal losses I’ve ever seen in ANY sport.

ouch, that sounds painful.

it took place on PSU WLAX's senior day, no less.

 

[hagberg]

First the Men lose a late lead and lose in OT.

Then the Women blow a big five goal early lead, then re-take the lead with 27.7 seconds left and are awarded possession because of a UMich foul. Running out the clock, they have an unforced turnover and give up a tying goal with 6.2 seconds left. Then give up the winning goal on a shot that may or may not have been released before the clock hit 0.0. Incredible.

I was wondering about that rule. In LAX, is it shot released before the buzzer or ball in the net before the buzzer?

 

[ILLINOISLION]

I was wondering about that rule. In LAX, is it shot released before the buzzer or ball in the net before the buzzer?

Apparently shot released. But brings into play what’s the call if it’s deflected by an Offensive player?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I was wondering about that rule. In LAX, is it shot released before the buzzer or ball in the net before the buzzer?

It’s a relatively new rule change (this yr or last yr). It used to be that the ball had to cross the goal line.

Ned is correct -- the change was made for this season. The actual wording in the college rule book is below, with the modification for this season in bold:

Rule 4: Time Factors and Scoring
Scoring
Section 8:
The team scoring the greater number of goals is the winner. A goal is scored by the whole ball passing completely over the goal line, between the posts, and under the crossbar from in front, having been shot or propelled by the legal stick of a player of the attacking team or propelled by the stick or person of a defending player. The shot or propelled action must release the ball before time expires. The shot or propelled action is deemed complete if the ball enters the goal, when any player gains possession of the shot or propelled ball, the shot or propelled ball goes out of bounds, comes to rest on the field of play or touches the ground below goal line extended. A shot or propelled ball that does not enter the goal, but comes to rest within the goal circle is considered to be in the possession of the goalkeeper.

To @hagberg's specific question, you can't ask the question for the sport (WLAX). In youth and high school, the rule is:

Rule 4: Time Factors, Substitution and Scoring
Section 8: Scoring
Art. 2 ... A goal is not scored when:
c. The whole ball enters the goal after the whistle has blown or the horn has sounded

But as indicated above, the rule is different in college WLAX

What I don’t understand was why wasn’t PSU’s midfield and defense fouling the ball to force a stoppage. There is an old adage in women’s lacrosse “if you’re not fouling you’re not playing lacrosse” or something to that effect.

Foul, foul, foul and impede thier ability to get down field.

100% correct. The goal scorer got a bit of a break in that she was on the circle on the draw, and the PSU girl lined up next to her went for the ball but missed it, so the scorer had some free space after she got the ball. That said, if any other PSU player had fouled her, it's unlikely that Michigan ever gets off a shot before the horn, and the game goes to OT.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Tom, did you get to see the last 60 seconds of the match or just the last 6.2 seconds?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Tom, did you get to see the last 60 seconds of the match or just the last 6.2 seconds?

so far, just the last 6.2 sec. My weekend has been/is packed -- I'm replying during a short break.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

so far, just the last 6.2 sec. My weekend has been/is packed -- I'm replying during a short break.

The short version.

With about 50 seconds and the score tied, UMich misses a chance to go ahead and PSU is awarded the ball right by their goal (UMich foul?). PSU then goes the length of the field and scores with 27.7 seconds left. And because the PSU scorer was decked as she scored, PSU was given the ball at mid-field (no face-off!). Just run out the clock and it’s over. Instead of going forward and passing forward, the ball is soon passed backwards to a defenseman who couldn’t get possession, UMich picked it up and scores and ties it at 6.2. And then you saw what happened next, the shot at the 0.0 and a goal from maybe 15-20 yds.

You have to see the last 60 seconds to believe it.....and then you won’t believe it until you watch it a few more times.

 

[Pardlion]

The short version.

With about 50 seconds and the score tied, UMich misses a chance to go ahead and PSU is awarded the ball right by their goal (UMich foul?). PSU then goes the length of the field and scores with 27.7 seconds left. And because the PSU scorer was decked as she scored, PSU was given the ball at mid-field (no face-off!). Just run out the clock and it’s over. Instead of going forward and passing forward, the ball is soon passed backwards to a defenseman who couldn’t get possession, UMich picked it up and scores and ties it at 6.2. And then you saw what happened next, the shot at the 0.0 and a goal from maybe 15-20 yds.

You have to see the last 60 seconds to believe it.....and then you won’t believe it until you watch it a few more times.

It was pathetic. Stupid decision making, terrible execution and no will to win.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

It was pathetic. Stupid decision making, terrible execution and no will to win.

Having been awarded the ball at midfield with 27.7 seconds left, the odds of winning the match had to be right at 99+%.

The chance of actually losing possession and giving up TWO goals in that time, well, it would take IBM’s Watson to figure out those odds.....and he might fry his brain doing that calculation.