Work has been that fun or rewarding lately. I'm an elementary principal and there are a ton of new challenges right now. One of the biggest is there are no substitutes and many days there are unfilled absences which causes others to do extra. Yesterday wasn't and today was heading down the same path. Then I received a text from a co-worker asking if I would be interested in 4 tix for Saturday's game. The outlook changed very quickly.
WOW!!!! That changed the day around in a hurry
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As a fellow educator I'm supportive and understanding of your frustrations and joy. Those of us on the front lines rarely win....polite golf claps and "praise" but beyond that it's been nothing but a colonoscopy equivalent grind. Enjoy Saturday....you deserve it...sometimes the good guys do come out on top! 🏈📚👍
Oh okay. I thought you were talking about a midnighter poll.
Two both of you “Thank You For Your Service “. Be well and good luck. Enjoy the game.
Shouldn’t you have then offered the tickets to certain teachers who actually went above and beyond?
🚌😃enjoy! After a tough year and a half, you earned it.
My principal thanked me profusely yesterday for filling in for a missing coworker. School principal is nothing other than middle management. Pretty sucky job, though well compensated (or at least better compensated than I am).
Enjoy the game!
Enjoy the game!
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I have a great staff. A couple of years ago for Boss's Day, we had an assembly and at the end they called me to the front. They "Filled My Bucket" . Each kid wrote me a note and put it in my bucket( PSU bucket by the way). Then the staff gave me a PSU mug which contained 2 Stipe-Out tickets.
I do try to take care of my staff. They are great.
I do try to take care of my staff. They are great.
Dude- it was only 4 tickets, I wouldn't have had enough to go around
"One of the biggest is there are no substitutes and many days there are unfilled absences which causes others to do extra."
This is all of America. I have been doing a 2 person job alone for a year.
Awesome news about the tix. Enjoy yourself. Your position with all that's goijg on is not one I am envious of.
Ldn
So happy for you and I can relate. High school assistant principal. I’ve had to have more parent meetings for conduct in the first two weeks this year than my first two years as an admin. I wanted to come for my first whiteout ever this Saturday. When I woke up today I had resigned myself to watch the game with a Penn State buddy. Boom two tickets became available for me! Taking my 14 year old daughter! Just feeling so good right now. Let’s go!!!
congrats @lionsnphils
I salute you, and all other educators that improvised and made a difference over the past 1 1/2 years.
enjoy the game.
Below is an article that salutes some of the special educators across the country.
time.com
I salute you, and all other educators that improvised and made a difference over the past 1 1/2 years.
enjoy the game.
Below is an article that salutes some of the special educators across the country.
Meet the Educators Who Saved A Pandemic School Year
Read 29 stories of educators who kept students from falling through the cracks
Oh and I was threatened by a parent with a lawsuit on Wednesday which is of course was without any merit. Please be kind to your child’s educators. We can take a civil dialogue but spare us the vitriol. I wish I could have said “oh I will be hearing from your attorney? Well I got them too. In fact you’ll find them in the biggest building in town”. But I’m a professional so I just said “ok”
Teachers salaries are available to the public and easily accessed on-line. I have a niece and her husband, both teachers in public schools in PA. They are both in their forties and their combined salaries were $204,000/year in 2020. They'll make more this year. Think about that for a moment while you attend your 12 month job.
Teachers used to have to spend their summers making and revising a curriculum. That's hasn't been the case for over 20 years...the school district buys curriculums which include daily lessons, quizs, tests, answer keys, etc. Standardized testing made this an absolute necessity and the only people that have benefited are the teachers and the companies that supply the curriculums.
Teachers used to have to spend their summers making and revising a curriculum. That's hasn't been the case for over 20 years...the school district buys curriculums which include daily lessons, quizs, tests, answer keys, etc. Standardized testing made this an absolute necessity and the only people that have benefited are the teachers and the companies that supply the curriculums.
No, actually not at all. I'm just sick of the "woe is me" bs that the teachers unions spew over the media and people seem to buy. There are people in this thread thanking teachers for their service...what a load of crap. With few exceptions, students do well when PARENTS care about education. When the parents care you find that the teachers care. It's never, ever the other way around.
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soooo, sour grapes then??
btw, not to be the grammer polize it is "woe is me" not "wow"
if only my English teachers could see me know
In certain Abbott school districts in NJ $100,000 is considered on the low end of the scale. In 2013 teachers were pushing $105k per year, today they’re north of $121k. In the meantime property taxes keep going through the roof. A nice home across the street from where I live has been on the market for six months. It’s reasonably priced but can’t sell because the property taxes are $16,500 per year.
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,k.
I actually understand how hard it is to do both corporate and educational jobs rather than believing what my cable news person tells me. After 18 award winning years my salary is up to $69,000 in a county with a $79,900 POVERTY LINE for a family of 4.
Two incomes has made the difference to get us North of $100,000...but part time jobs and summer school have been NEEDS. I'm not sitting around sunning while titans like you are saving our economy.
My average annual raise after accounting is up to $750. From 2010-2020 in PA teacher salaries grew by 1%. We went without raises for 3 years in the early 2010s. My starting salary was less than my old car allowance and expense account. But keep on quacking.
As for the pension....which shockingly you didn't mention...mine won't keep me from tinkering with part time work til I croak. It may plug a gap in anticipated Social Security shortages- but will not be like "getting paid to not work."
The simple FACT (not alternative fact) is that I've never been more stressed and I've never worked harder. But you keep looking at your watch and assume that my day is done at 2:35. And continue believing that caring doesn't stop with the bell and that the emotional toll of trying to guide young people through their lives is easy and stops when they leave your classroom or graduate. It doesn't.
Folks like you only care about your kid and you likely push and bitch and complain to get your 💰 worth out of these overpaid civil servants. I've got hundreds of kids who I treat as my own that I'm about to go spend the day with. Thanks for starting my day the opposite of the intention of tbe OP and the other poster who scored 2 ducats.
Your relatives are very fortunate...but you are so full of shit that you cannot see with your head up your ass. I've held senior management jobs with major global companies and a job with a sports team where I was responsible for $1,000,000 per game. I easily worked 80 hour weeks for years ( until I burned out and fried like an egg).
I actually understand how hard it is to do both corporate and educational jobs rather than believing what my cable news person tells me. After 18 award winning years my salary is up to $69,000 in a county with a $79,900 POVERTY LINE for a family of 4.
Two incomes has made the difference to get us North of $100,000...but part time jobs and summer school have been NEEDS. I'm not sitting around sunning while titans like you are saving our economy.
My average annual raise after accounting is up to $750. From 2010-2020 in PA teacher salaries grew by 1%. We went without raises for 3 years in the early 2010s. My starting salary was less than my old car allowance and expense account. But keep on quacking.
As for the pension....which shockingly you didn't mention...mine won't keep me from tinkering with part time work til I croak. It may plug a gap in anticipated Social Security shortages- but will not be like "getting paid to not work."
The simple FACT (not alternative fact) is that I've never been more stressed and I've never worked harder. But you keep looking at your watch and assume that my day is done at 2:35. And continue believing that caring doesn't stop with the bell and that the emotional toll of trying to guide young people through their lives is easy and stops when they leave your classroom or graduate. It doesn't.
Folks like you only care about your kid and you likely push and bitch and complain to get your 💰 worth out of these overpaid civil servants. I've got hundreds of kids who I treat as my own that I'm about to go spend the day with. Thanks for starting my day the opposite of the intention of tbe OP and the other poster who scored 2 ducats.
There are parts of this I agree with, parts I disagree with. Parents absolutely are the key to a kid’s education. To say teachers teachers don’t care when the parents don’t care is an absolutely ignorant position. It’s hard for a teacher to accomplish what they want when the parents don’t value education, but it is almost never due to a lack of concern from the teacher.
As for the “woe is me” teacher stuff, I’m with you 100%. We all knew what we were getting into when we took our jobs. I live in a house that I can afford, make payments on two affordable cars (and have 18-year old and 20-year old cars for my older girls to drive). I’m grateful for the salary I get while also getting 10 weeks off in the summer, two weeks at Christmas, a week in the spring and a pension when I’m done. It works for me.
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Thanks, I didn't notice the "woe". I'm blaming it on the title of this thread.soooo, sour grapes then??
btw, not to be the grammer polize it is "woe is me" not "wow"
if only my English teachers could see me know
More good news!!!
In New York, subs were making more staying at home than working. New York was extending Basic State unemployment benefits, PLUS the weekly $300 dollar Federal stimulus check. No Social Security or Medicare withholding, and free health insurance if their income remained low enough. Pretty good deal, right? You couldn’t buy a sub in New York.
Now that the basic state unemployment and federal stimulus checks have stopped, I think a lot of your sub problem may remedy itself.
I generally agree with the career choice thoughts. I chose to change into this career for stability, predictability and to not have to travel. I'm no fool and did my research before investimg the money in getting my Masters and devoting the time to student teach etc in order to be certified. This was in the early 2000s. I'm also lucky enough to understand demands in other jobs more so than just Education. It is easy to see why people leave.
I had a frank conversation with the HR Director at our local district, where I now work, about my plan. 20 years and out....42-62. I asked her what my salary range would be when I retired and she said it would easily be above $100k even though I started at $44k. The math and perceived lifestyle....as some posters have said...seemed to work. And it did for all the right reasons- family, altruistic work, connecting with the next generation, helping people.
But the financial side has not been anywhere near what she had told me.
The reality is that during my time things like No Child Left Behind testing mandates, a serious increase in things like IEPs and other legally mandated accommodations and evershifting management has created a work environment that is not at all what many think. Like the college football model of the head coach making big bank...at least our district saw a Superintendent almost double his healthy salary in 10 years while the proletariat stayed still. Same for the Business Manager. Layers of management continually being added and classroom challenges-especially with the last 18 months have resulted in a ton of extra time and effort- like many industries. However, there is no incremental growth salarywise.
If I hit $80k by my planned retirement date that would be surprising. The ripple effect is work longer, work part time jobs, or change careers again. I'm exploring all options and have plans to execute under multiple scenarios. There is no "woe is me" but there is also a reason why most teachers and Administrators don't live in our school district....they simply cannot afford to. And that makes your school community separate from your resident community with a lot of tradeoffs.
Education is definitely imperfect, but most people who enter it are intelligent, hard working and compassionate.
The myth of lecturing for a day, giving kids Scantron tests and using the same materials for 35 years while making a ton of money and having the best tan is just that...at least now and in my experience.
I work 12 months a year (not in education) and that salary the teachers you are referring to doesn’t bother me. It’s nice to know the people helping, educating, and taking care of our kids are smart, talented, and care.
btw, when you are starting out in your 20s and 30s you don’t make that much in most states. Plus down south some states don’t even require a degree to be a teacher. Blind leading the blind down there.
My wife is a teacher at a suburban school here in Reading and the stories that she tells me daily just amaze me. I don't know how kids learn in today's classroom environment and I can't for the life of me understand how teachers get through a day without drinking.
I grew up in the Reading SD and I've never seen classrooms the way my wife describes daily. It honestly sounds like a mental health block at the jail.
God Bless our Educators!
I grew up in the Reading SD and I've never seen classrooms the way my wife describes daily. It honestly sounds like a mental health block at the jail.
God Bless our Educators!
20 year music Pa teacher here, I don’t make close to 6 figures and create ALL of my own curriculum for 8 different grades, 500 kids in a 6 day cycle. Not complaining, but I doubt you could do it. Tomorrow (Sunday) I’ll be spending the day writing/recording new songs for an upcoming assembly and lesson planning. Again, happy to be employed but it’s no picnic. Oh, and taking grad credits on the side to keep my certification.
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That may be what happens but you cannot ignore that most subs are retired teachers who are in the older age range and therefore potentially more susceptible to possible germs.
I hopefully couched that enough for you to see that this isn't a mask vs. No mask comment but simply why would an intelligent person take that risk for roughly $100 per day if they didn't need to? Of our usual bank of subs only one is working- and she only because she is in long term for a person out on maternity leave and is highly specialized- therefore making a prorated # of her last salary. Clearly she decided it was worthwhile- but she is in a high school....going in to an Elementary or even Middle School may be a different consideration set.
It's not all about what Tucker says on the cable news.....and yes I watch and track both sides of our media fueled divide. Neither is correct....
I’m not talking about “retired teachers”. I’m talking about younger, able bodied teachers that can’t find full time jobs, and subbed to fill in the time till they could find one. Now they have stopped looking entirely because they realize that living off the government’s dime is a pretty good deal. Why work when you make more money staying at home, get free health insurance, and don’t have any social security or Medicare taxes withheld.???
Heck, they brag about it.
Maybe it’s worse up here in New York than some of the other states with all the free handouts we have. This free money has just ripped all the incentive and motivation away from these kids. They have just stopped looking for full time or part time work, and are hoping that this new stimulus package will reinstate the benefits.
Thank goodness, the free money spigot from the Feds has stopped, at least for now. Let’s hope these kids haven’t gotten too used to sitting on their lazy a$$es, and start looking for jobs again. There’s Help Wanted signs on every block. Some offering a LOT more money than they were getting from the government.
Maybe your “sub” dilemma will right itself soon. I hope so. There were LOTS of young kids out there that were looking for teaching jobs prior to the pandemic.
Teachers are generally underpaid and under appreciated for a job that has an incredible amount of impact on our children. They deserve more $ and more respect.
Trey Gowdy......former Congressman and now Fox News reporter........”If you want to change the world.....teach”
Hoping you got back to Buffalo from the Rally in time for the State game. We just all suck. You know everything. We want to make all kids commies. Whatever dude. We may share an alma mater but that's it. You are clueless about many things in the 🌎....in Tucker we trust. Let's blame the Haitians under the bridge in Texas....
And for what its worth...in a real school in suburban Philly where I've been for 18 years...the sub population has NEVER been the folks you speak of. This year we do have a new 22 year old Study Hall monitor who doubles as our JV girls soccer coach. From time to time those types exist....including me as a 38 year old career changer who worked a couple of days per week in a Daily Sub role while raising my 2 kids. But the fantasy of Millenial teachers partying on your dime is pure crap. At least where I am. But keep fighting the good and righteous fight from whence you know and see nothing personally. Tucker always shoots straight and would never steer you wrong.
And San Francisco and Seattle are such needle factories that nobody wants to live there....that's why the real estate is soooooo cheap and dropping. I have been to Seattle recently and LA too. Homeless are real...as they were in NYC from 1998-2002 when I lived and worked there. None in Buffalo? I wonder why? Maybe there are greener and warmer pastures? No matter. It is all a socialist scheme to deprive you of you American rights....
So when kids parents are divorced, and they use them as weapons, and a teacher spends THEIR PERSONAL LUNCH TIME TO HELP THE KID feel better about the shit Sammy their parents gave them... that counts as NEVER EVER? GET A CLUE shithead....it has happened. At least in my room. Often.
How do you know what your own kids share with people they can trust who aren't named mom or dad? I'm sure you are perfect. NEVER is a strong word there. Where did your kids go superdaddy? Beat Wake and Dartmouth. You don't know shit. But I'm sure you are a GREAT American.
Seriously....where do you get your opinion? My HVAC guy,(an employee) made $120k last year. More than me and my wife who works full time at Penn in Business Management. You want him teaching your kid? How about the long haul truckers in my town who make $80k...2 days to LA or Phoenix in a team....2 days back....2 days off. But they work every day while I'm living off of your taxes. I have students who after 2 or 3 years in other trades who make more than me...they proudly visit and tell me and I celebrate their success....but the Teachers Union is ruining things and keeping incompetent people employed?
Let me ask you something. You must be a GREAT manager....how many of your mentees credit you with changing their lives? I doubt many. Typical selfish jackwagon who believes what he chooses (or what Tucker tells him to Parrot. Polly want a cracker????
Former students will name their kids after me. How bout you cowboy? Thought so. GREAT is in the eye of the beholder.....
This is the second time you've replied to me in this thread. You must have a lot of free time on your hands.
