quite a broad brush you are painting with. Most people, vast majority, don't care about transgendered people. At issue is an uneven playing field and the damage this will do to women's sports and women's causes. The right of trans and women are colliding. I think one can side with trans or women, without being accused of trans "hate speech" or being anti-women.
Proudly, all 3 knew all about her and knew what the PSU President said. Sadly though, their pops is losing his fastball.
Bet they were surprised you never heard of her😉
Which is exactly what they want us to do…….No worries, Pelly. Sometimes I think the wiser course would be to forget social media, turn off the "news" (which more often than not is advancement of narratives or outright propaganda), tune out the hollering that passes for discourse these days...and simply live our lives and raise our children in accordance with the values we believe in and know to be true...even if they've become unfashionable.
But my resolve to tune out never seems to last more than a day or two...
She would be supported (and probably is supported) by 95%+. The problem is allowing the subject to slip to anti trans. That's what the people in favor of this want. Stick to the issue of unfairness in women's sports and it's a slam dunk.
Didn’t have them repeat or quote her. But I can say my middle son is at PSU Altoona. He is getting the classes he needs and his ultimate goal is to become a PA State Trooper. He said they had some debate in his classes yesterday about it. So, I don’t know what they “think” they heard, but they at least talked about it.
that's right. It is hard to have a rational conversation without someone labeling you as anti-gay, anti-trans, racist, xenophobic, or misogynistic. The fact is that these are nuanced concepts that can't be solved with a light switch decision. Everyone wants to classify you as this or that. Life isn't that simple.
...and we are talking about white males who are competing as white females, for the most part.
They have no intention of rational discussion. They are about force, intimidation, power, disinformation, mind control, and brainwashing.
Your first paragraph is spot on. As such, educated discussions are in line and imperative. Not accusations of anti-gay hate. That isn't helpful, in fact, the opposite.
Thanks. I asked because there seems to be a misunderstanding in what Nelli said, or that she just released that video (when searching to see if she's said anything at all, there are headlines from conservative sites about her calling Riley a "bigot", just as we've seen claimed on this board). From what I've seen, we're still waiting for her to make any type of comment on this issue.
Agreed. Nelli released this before the Gaines situation. If you listen to it, she is promoting the notion that uncomfortable conversations need to be had. This video came up after Gaines' speech was cancelled.
What are you talking about? You agree with "them" that there: "will never be agreement on what constitutes a biologically born female"? This has been settled for over a hundred years. This thing is simple: if you have xy chromosomes you play on the xy team and if you have xx chromosomes you play on the xx team. No need to discuss anything related to gender when picking teams, nor should it matter how one identifies during the picking process.
You can’t - that is the tool that is used to prevent a discussion on some topics - want a secure border - anti-immigrant racist - biological women want a level playing field - Transphobic - what this does is harden both sides and is counter productive. Unreal what some consider hate speech these days.
That is a choice. I have no problem with it. However, it does not take into consideration people that were born as one sex but recognizes as the otherWhat are you talking about? You agree with "them" that there: "will never be agreement on what constitutes a biologically born female"? This has been settled for over a hundred years. This thing is simple: if you have xy chromosomes you play on the xy team and if you have xx chromosomes you play on the xx team. No need to discuss anything related to gender when picking teams, nor should it matter how one identifies during the picking process.
Do males have different chromosomes than females?
"Yes, they differ in a pair of chromosomes known as the sex chromosomes. Females have two X chromosomes in their cells, while males have one X and one Y chromosome.
Inheriting too many or not enough copies of sex chromosomes can lead to serious problems. For example, females who have extra copies of the X chromosome are usually taller than average and some have mental disability. Males with more than one X chromosome have Klinefelter syndrome, which is a condition characterized by tall stature and, often, impaired fertility. Another syndrome caused by imbalance in the number of sex chromosomes is Turner syndrome. Women with Turner have one X chromosome only. They are very short, usually do not undergo puberty and some may have kidney or heart problems."
Chromosomes Fact Sheet
Chromosomes are thread-like structures located inside the nucleus of animal and plant cells.www.genome.gov
So, you feel a third category is warranted? I'm all for letting the trans athlete's compete against each other. However, if they want to be on one of the other teams they'd have to match chromosome type. I'm sure if there is enough demand schools will create teams. Really is a simple solution.
I didn't state an opinion. I was trying to get closed minded posters to open their minds and think.
And you agree that there will not be attorneys and calling and witnesses and scientists with volumes of data to challenge You agree at birth. Lol
I do agree but at some point, we cannot accommodate everybody's nuanced issues. For example, in college I ran a 4.6 forty yard dash with only a 30' inseam. I was also a pretty good hurdler in track. I am thinking about petitioning for a hurdling competition for people who recognize as men who are over the age of 25 and have in inseam of 30' or less.
Give me a break…didn’t you call someone an idiot fool ahole jerkoff in this thread?
Exactly. 50 years after Title IX men are dominating women and girls’ sports. Where the hell are the feminists now?
Yes.
That sounds good but the issue is that schools and some gov't entities are not allowing parents to raise thir children with the values of the parents and therein we have the collision. Most parents do not want to be forced into accepting the transgender ideology, nor do they want their children being force fed that lifestyle through participation in classroom and/or assembly instruction, required book reading, observations of special days @ school for alternative lifestyles or forcing thir children o share restrooms and lockerrooms with those of the opposite biological sex.No worries, Pelly. Sometimes I think the wiser course would be to forget social media, turn off the "news" (which more often than not is advancement of narratives or outright propaganda), tune out the hollering that passes for discourse these days...and simply live our lives and raise our children in accordance with the values we believe in and know to be true...even if they've become unfashionable.
But my resolve to tune out never seems to last more than a day or two...
It is very difficult for parents who cannot afford a private school education and or economics dictate that both parents have to work negating the homeschooling option. They are trapped in school systems that have lost their moral compass.
Only in retort to him. Are you a blind idiot myopic phoney fool jerk off, too?
I believe it is the consensus of basketball experts is that a good boys high school team would easily defeat the NCAA NC Women’s champion.
