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Your guess on how many series Allar gets this week?

How many series does Allar get verses Ohio and how many pass attempts?

  • 0, this one's tighter than expected

    Votes: 7 8.9%
  • 1 or 2 series, but just handing off

    Votes: 22 27.8%
  • 3 or 4, 10 to 15 attempts

    Votes: 41 51.9%
  • He gets a half and 15+ attempts

    Votes: 9 11.4%

  • Total voters
    79
you first play the game to win. This is a very reasonable trap game between two primetime games. While I don't expect to lose, I first want to make sure that the game is under control. Then you put in the second teams.
A reasonable and responsible viewpoint. Funny despite the spread how the scoreboard reads 0-0 when the ball is kicked off.
 
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Personally, i don't care who is QB2, I care that PSU has a QB2 that has some game experience beyond 6 hand offs in garbage time. Franklin has a history of keeping QB1 in games that are long-decided and it adds unnecessary risk to the success of the team.
Someone should tell him and MY as well.
 
You do realize that Franklin doesn't believe in competition, at least at he QB position? He did what he could to replace Hack but couldn't. Hack was the reason he didn't finish his first two years 6 and 18 or worse. He did not give Tommy Stevens a legit shot at the job in either 2016 (when he actually did win it) or in 2019 when he was denied the opportunity. CJF screams competition but we actually rarely see it. We see HIS guys getting starting jobs over those that win it. That is a problem.
LOL your posts scream BS.
 
A reasonable and responsible viewpoint. Funny despite the spread how the scoreboard reads 0-0 when the ball is kicked off.
Ohio beat us in 2012, albeit under extraordinary circumstances. But I do recall App State taking us to overtime.
 
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Ohio beat us in 2012, albeit under extraordinary circumstances. But I do recall App State taking us to overtime.
Never should have lost 2 Ohio.....that was an experienced PSU team. App State has taken down a few big boys...MIchigan? 40 points vs NC this week in the 4th quarter. P5 teams don't need App State.....LOL
 
I’ve seen nothing that indicates Franklin is going to change his philosophy of playing the starter and only the starter, even in blow out wins. Let’s face it, the only reason Allar saw the field at all was due to Clifford going into the locker rooom to get treated for cramps.
I hope you are wrong and Franklin realizes that his philosophy needs rephilosophized. HaHa
 
Ohio beat us in 2012, albeit under extraordinary circumstances. But I do recall App State taking us to overtime.
there was also a fluke play in that Ohio loss where the ball caromed off of a PSU player and directly to an Ohio player iirc

found it....it was deflected by two Penn State defenders and was an Ohio touchdown



fluke play is at 1:55 in the video
 
Apples and oranges.
Seriously, it's like you argue just to argue, like someone pissed in your cheerios and you just want to yell at clouds.
Here's a thesis: Because it's the most important position, it's important to have a back up quarterback that is prepared to come in if needed and perform at a competent level. As a coach, it is inherently risky (as we saw at Iowa last year) to not have a competent QB2 and therefore, the coach should prioritize game reps for QB2 whenever feasible.
 
I just want a good solid win. I'd like to score 28 by halftime. I'd like to hold Ohio to less than 10 by the same point. I'd like to see us run well. And if they put 8 in the box, then quick pass them into oblivion vs running into a brick wall.

Allar showed well in his snaps vs Purdue. No false starts. Very good pocket presence. I don't foresee an Iowa disaster with him nor CV on the roster. That doesn't preclude us from suffering a loss if Clifford goes down and one of them has to go in.
 
We're favored by 24.5 points last I saw. This should be one of those games where it's 35-7 (maybe 10) at the half--we put it away early in the third then the backups getting meaningful playing time. That's the sole purpose of playing a team like Ohio and Central Michigan.
 
there was also a fluke play in that Ohio loss where the ball caromed off of a PSU player and directly to an Ohio player iirc

found it....it was deflected by two Penn State defenders and was an Ohio touchdown



fluke play is at 1:55 in the video
all the more reason to get the game under control before dumping the scrubs in
 
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Personally, i don't care who is QB2, I care that PSU has a QB2 that has some game experience beyond 6 hand offs in garbage time. Franklin has a history of keeping QB1 in games that are long-decided and it adds unnecessary risk to the success of the team.
Pretty much all coaches do the same thing. I rarely see QB2 come in unless it’s a complete blow out. You guys thinking that all these coaches are playing multiple QB’s in a two or three TD game are crazy. Will Levis played the entire game Saturday in a 37-13 win against Miami of Ohio. I guess Stoops is horrible too…Levis better transfer quick.
 
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Seriously, it's like you argue just to argue, like someone pissed in your cheerios and you just want to yell at clouds.
Here's a thesis: Because it's the most important position, it's important to have a back up quarterback that is prepared to come in if needed and perform at a competent level. As a coach, it is inherently risky (as we saw at Iowa last year) to not have a competent QB2 and therefore, the coach should prioritize game reps for QB2 whenever feasible.
Thanks for explaining. I didn't know. That being said....Allar is not Roberson....apples and oranges.
 
Pretty much all coaches do the same thing. I rarely see QB2 come in unless it’s a complete blow out. You guys thinking that all these coaches are playing multiple QB’s in a two or three TD game are crazy. Will Levis played the entire game Saturday in a 37-13 win against Miami of Ohio. I guess Stoops is horrible too…Levis better transfer quick.

They are a lot closer to a Iowa debacle this year than we are. They were only up 13-10 at the half and it was a kick return TD that began their breathing room, not the offense.

The UK backup is a former 3rd string Iowa QB. Zero snaps to my knowledge and they basically know they are going to the portal next year.
 
They are a lot closer to a Iowa debacle this year than we are. They were only up 13-10 at the half and it was a kick return TD that began their breathing room, not the offense.

The UK backup is a former 3rd string Iowa QB. Zero snaps to my knowledge and they basically know they are going to the portal next year.
But the game was in hand after the kickoff return and the turnover on the next play that led to another TD. They could have gotten the backup some snaps, but they didn’t. They also did some stat padding for Levis which is fine, but a pretty big risk in game 1.
 
Pretty much all coaches do the same thing. I rarely see QB2 come in unless it’s a complete blow out. You guys thinking that all these coaches are playing multiple QB’s in a two or three TD game are crazy. Will Levis played the entire game Saturday in a 37-13 win against Miami of Ohio. I guess Stoops is horrible too…Levis better transfer quick.
Kentucky and Penn State are very different situations. Stoops is using Levis to try to get attention for his program.
 
But the game was in hand after the kickoff return and the turnover on the next play that led to another TD. They could have gotten the backup some snaps, but they didn’t. They also did some stat padding for Levis which is fine, but a pretty big risk in game 1.

I think that staff knows Levis needs the snaps. Similar to Clifford last year.

The Florida game is going to be very interesting. UK had trouble moving the ball on them last year with an OL who could run block and Rodriguez. They won't have Rodriguez and the new OL doesn't appear to be as good at run blocking.
 
Kentucky and Penn State are very different situations. Stoops is using Levis to try to get attention for his program.
So what about all the other coaches in the country? They all do pretty much the same thing. And if Stoops is relying on the portal for a QB for next year because he can’t recruit one, he’s not doing a very good job of getting attention.
 
I think that staff knows Levis needs the snaps. Similar to Clifford last year.

The Florida game is going to be very interesting. UK had trouble moving the ball on them last year with an OL who could run block and Rodriguez. They won't have Rodriguez and the new OL doesn't appear to be as good at run blocking.
They’re not very good at pass blocking either…Levis was basically sacked 6 times against a MAC team. Could be a rough year for him…which is another reason they should get him out when they have a comfortable lead.
 
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They’re not very good at pass blocking either…Levis was basically sacked 6 times against a MAC team. Could be a rough year for him…which is another reason they should get him out when they have a comfortable lead.

I agree. I just wonder how much of it is "our top 3 WRs are a transfer and 2 true freshman" and the concern is that without their suspended top RB, they are just trying to get them live reps together.
 
So what about all the other coaches in the country? They all do pretty much the same thing. And if Stoops is relying on the portal for a QB for next year because he can’t recruit one, he’s not doing a very good job of getting attention.
What coaches are you speaking of here? Smart played backups a ton against Oregon when the game was over. Against Oregon. The entire purpose for Penn State to play MAC teams is to get easy wins and meaningful PT for younger players.

Yes, Stoops is showcasing Levis hoping to get someone in the portal--like the majority of schools do these days. He's going to push Levis for all kinds of awards. See the play calling throughout that game.
 
Yes, Stoops is showcasing Levis hoping to get someone in the portal--like the majority of schools do these days. He's going to push Levis for all kinds of awards. See the play calling throughout that game.
Stoops is trying to win. Levis is his best option throwing because they looked like we did vs Villanova last year running the ball.

Levis wasn't the hyped up 1st rd QB he is today when he entered the portal. Otherwise, it's possible he didn't end up at UK if better options existed (even though I think he picked a near perfect place to go).

The fact that they will very likely bring in another portal QB (Levis in '21, Hogan in '22) has very little to do with the scheme they run. If Levis could have had those stats at halftime with less attempts, Stoops would have gladly sit him at some point.
 
Stoops is trying to win. Levis is his best option throwing because they looked like we did vs Villanova last year running the ball.

Levis wasn't the hyped up 1st rd QB he is today when he entered the portal. Otherwise, it's possible he didn't end up at UK if better options existed (even though I think he picked a near perfect place to go).

The fact that they will very likely bring in another portal QB (Levis in '21, Hogan in '22) has very little to do with the scheme they run. If Levis could have had those stats at halftime with less attempts, Stoops would have gladly sit him at some point.
We'll see how it plays out. Levis is the most important player in Kentucky football since...Tim Couch maybe? I guess you could argue Josh Allen (DE) or Bud Dupree but they need Levis to get a ton of attention not only for recruiting but because of the portal. We are going to see schools that eventually rely almost entirely on the portal and Kentucky might be one of those given the SEC and Stoops.
 
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We'll see how it plays out. Levis is the most important player in Kentucky football since...Tim Couch maybe? I guess you could argue Josh Allen (DE) or Bud Dupree but they need Levis to get a ton of attention not only for recruiting but because of the portal. We are going to see schools that eventually rely almost entirely on the portal and Kentucky might be one of those given the SEC and Stoops.

They could be set up really good with an 11-1 type year (no chance vs UGA until they prove otherwise), but that's going to be tough going to Florida and Ole Miss in addition to they can't beat UT consistently regardless of talent.

NIL seems to have hurt them as well this year. Ranked in the upper 40s now vs top 20 finish last year.
 
They could be set up really good with an 11-1 type year (no chance vs UGA until they prove otherwise), but that's going to be tough going to Florida and Ole Miss in addition to they can't beat UT consistently regardless of talent.

NIL seems to have hurt them as well this year. Ranked in the upper 40s now vs top 20 finish last year.
Agreed--it won't be easy for them this year. Florida looked solid against a good Utah team. 9-3 is my guess.

NIL may hurt them this year but they are one of the teams that I see relying on it heavily. Taking a lot of those guys that want to be in the SEC but realize they aren't going to start at bigger programs.
 
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Agreed--it won't be easy for them this year. Florida looked solid against a good Utah team. 9-3 is my guess.

NIL may hurt them this year but they are one of the teams that I see relying on it heavily. Taking a lot of those guys that want to be in the SEC but realize they aren't going to start at bigger programs.

The word coming from their people is the AD isn't all on board and limiting what they offer recruits.

Also, fighting with Cal and basketball over resources.
 
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Pretty much all coaches do the same thing. I rarely see QB2 come in unless it’s a complete blow out. You guys thinking that all these coaches are playing multiple QB’s in a two or three TD game are crazy. Will Levis played the entire game Saturday in a 37-13 win against Miami of Ohio. I guess Stoops is horrible too…Levis better transfer quick.
Well, then other coaches do a better job of prepping players in practice, such that game experience is not relevant. IDK, but it was clear midway through last year, that there was no QB2 capable of playing and the staff didn't appear to have any idea of that fact.
 
Hopefully, we play well enough that we can give Allar at least one or two series on Saturday to gain experience.
 
We're favored by 24.5 points last I saw. This should be one of those games where it's 35-7 (maybe 10) at the half--we put it away early in the third then the backups getting meaningful playing time. That's the sole purpose of playing a team like Ohio and Central Michigan.
Question: If PSU wins every game on their schedule by 1 point, will they play in the BCS championship playoff? Answer: Yes

The people doing the poles don't remember the close games you win, just the loses.
 
Hell no.

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The problem is that in Predator Jessee dies about 1 minute later without getting any payback.
 
What coaches are you speaking of here? Smart played backups a ton against Oregon when the game was over. Against Oregon. The entire purpose for Penn State to play MAC teams is to get easy wins and meaningful PT for younger players.

Yes, Stoops is showcasing Levis hoping to get someone in the portal--like the majority of schools do these days. He's going to push Levis for all kinds of awards. See the play calling throughout that game.
I’m speaking of all coaches. Yes, you can get backup QB’s in the game when you’re up by 100, but no one is doing it when they’re up by 20 and certainly no one is doing it to start the game or early in the game regardless of who the opponent is. Bama certainly could have won Saturday with their backup QB playing the whole game, but he didn’t.
 
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Stoops is trying to win. Levis is his best option throwing because they looked like we did vs Villanova last year running the ball.

Levis wasn't the hyped up 1st rd QB he is today when he entered the portal. Otherwise, it's possible he didn't end up at UK if better options existed (even though I think he picked a near perfect place to go).

The fact that they will very likely bring in another portal QB (Levis in '21, Hogan in '22) has very little to do with the scheme they run. If Levis could have had those stats at halftime with less attempts, Stoops would have gladly sit him at some point.
I don’t think so….I think he was trying to pad Levis’s stats.
 
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We'll see how it plays out. Levis is the most important player in Kentucky football since...Tim Couch maybe? I guess you could argue Josh Allen (DE) or Bud Dupree but they need Levis to get a ton of attention not only for recruiting but because of the portal. We are going to see schools that eventually rely almost entirely on the portal and Kentucky might be one of those given the SEC and Stoops.
They’re already relying mostly on transfers….their best player on Saturday was not Levis, but the transfer from Va Tech.
 
They could be set up really good with an 11-1 type year (no chance vs UGA until they prove otherwise), but that's going to be tough going to Florida and Ole Miss in addition to they can't beat UT consistently regardless of talent.

NIL seems to have hurt them as well this year. Ranked in the upper 40s now vs top 20 finish last year.
I can’t see any way they go 11-1 with their OLine….they may be looking at 9-3 at best with a possibility of 8-4. I may be wrong, but when Miami of Ohio spends most of the game in your backfield, I don’t think it bodes well for a successful season. Fortunately for them they have 5 automatic wins on their schedule.
 
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Well, then other coaches do a better job of prepping players in practice, such that game experience is not relevant. IDK, but it was clear midway through last year, that there was no QB2 capable of playing and the staff didn't appear to have any idea of that fact.
I’m quite certain they were aware of the fact which is why Clifford played so much and played hurt. We won’t see that this year.
 
Question: If PSU wins every game on their schedule by 1 point, will they play in the BCS championship playoff? Answer: Yes

The people doing the poles don't remember the close games you win, just the loses.

People absolutely remember close pools--remember 1994?
 
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