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2020 Transfer portal news

Good old mike and his house on the hill. Is his indoor athletic blow up building still going in muncy?

Assuming this means he will transfer after May.

3 yrs is quite doable with summers and/or AP placement credits.

For comparison, Mike Mussina was a Stanford double major and graduated in 3.5 yrs.
 
You can be high and correct at the same time. That said, I'd bet on Griffith over Lee right now but wouldn't be surprised if Lee beat him.
Did I miss something? What makes anyone here believe Joe Lee is on Griffith’s level? He had 2 convincing losses to Wittlake and Bullard last year and his best win is Wentzel.

Is this just because he’s Nick’s brother? As a hoosier, while I like Joe and think he’ll be an AA eventually, Nick has always been on a different tier.
 
He now wears a singlet with stripe acrossed the mid section?
Yep, that's it.

Question for everyone here: if you had to bet the house on one of these, would you take Lee beating Griffith or Griffith beating Marinelli?
 
Yep, that's it.

Question for everyone here: if you had to bet the house on one of these, would you take Lee beating Griffith or Griffith beating Marinelli?
Depends... regular season I'd say Lee over Griffith. NCAAs I'd probably say Griffith over Marinelli. Until I see Marinelli perform up to expectations at the "big show", him losing there never shocks me... lol
 
Depends... regular season I'd say Lee over Griffith. NCAAs I'd probably say Griffith over Marinelli. Until I see Marinelli perform up to expectations at the "big show", him losing there never shocks me... lol
HR fans reading that:

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Did I miss something? What makes anyone here believe Joe Lee is on Griffith’s level? He had 2 convincing losses to Wittlake and Bullard last year and his best win is Wentzel.

Is this just because he’s Nick’s brother? As a hoosier, while I like Joe and think he’ll be an AA eventually, Nick has always been on a different tier.

Joe Lee beat Shane Griffith in the Fargo Cadet Championship match 10-0 in 2015. I know that doesn't mean he would win tomorrow, but if you don't think Joe is at or very near that level, you haven't seen enough Joe Lee yet. He's just getting started in the toughest room in the country.
 
Joe Lee beat Shane Griffith in the Fargo Cadet Championship match 10-0 in 2015. I know that doesn't mean he would win tomorrow, but if you don't think Joe is at or very near that level, you haven't seen enough Joe Lee yet. He's just getting started in the toughest room in the country.
Yeah, probably not going to lean on a result from their sophomore year of high school. I’m from Indiana. I’m very familiar with Joe Lee and the Lee family. Fact is there is nothing from the last 3 years of competing since moving to happy valley that would indicate Lee could beat Griffith. They were in the same bracket in january and Griffith controlled the guy who controlled Lee.

Could he make a huge jump this year? Sure! But if you had to choose a guy right now, you’d be high not to choose Griffith.
 
I'm hearing of a possible 125 pulling a commitment and entering the portal. Would love to see this multi time state champ in the Blue n white for his entire career!
 
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I'm hearing of a possible 125 pulling a commitment and entering the portal. Would love to see this multi time state champ in the Blue n white for his entire career!

Gary Steen covers all of your hints:

Possible 125, check.
Currently commited to Pitt, check.
Multi time state champ, check.
Blue n white for entire career(including hs), check.
 
Gary Steen covers all of your hints:

Possible 125, check.
Currently commited to Pitt, check.
Multi time state champ, check.
Blue n white for entire career(including hs), check.
Not desirable due to his dad... kid is top notch but comes with enormous parental baggage with his dad
 
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Not desirable due to his dad... kid is top notch but comes with enormous parental baggage with his dad
Not buying this. As if Mark Steen (or any other parent) is a problem for Cael Freaking Sanderson.

Regardless, Steen can't hit the portal until next year.

"Pulling a commitment and entering the portal" is a bizarre combination. But 2021 guys cannot hit the portal since they're still in HS. So a 2020 guy (whose initial season has been delayed) seems much more likely.
 
Not desirable due to his dad... kid is top notch but comes with enormous parental baggage with his dad
If you can neutralize/minimalize/manage Quentin's dad, Steen's dad should be manageable.

Of course, Nick's dad turned out to be an unmanageable PIA.
 
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Ted,

Baggage ?
Coaches his bad karma club who sent us Carter Starocci has had about 10 or more kids sign division one scholarships in the last two years. Coach and directed the PAWF youth kids nationals For seven years and the PA school boy teams. Coaches Fargo for the men's and women's teams. Him and the Bartletts are good friends. Is there really baggage or just someone with a little beef?

Hmmmm



Not desirable due to his dad... kid is top notch but comes with enormous parental baggage with his dad
 
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Don’t know the man, may actually be a great person, but.
A persons personality/baggage/attitude coaching /advising other people’s children can be totally different from ur own child we all know that.

Let’s give him the benefit from doubt as to how he is, if needed.
 
Ted,

Baggage ?
Coaches his bad karma club who sent us Carter Starocci has had about 10 or more kids sign division one scholarships in the last two years. Coach and directed the PAWF youth kids nationals For seven years and the PA school boy teams. Coaches Fargo for the men's and women's teams. Him and the Bartletts are good friends. Is there really baggage or just someone with a little beef?

Hmmmm
Yeah, if Mark is a headache parent, the standards of this board are way out of whack. He’s passionate, but a headache he’s not, and doesn’t think he’s smarter than Cael I’m certain.
 
Don’t know the man, may actually be a great person, but.
A persons personality/baggage/attitude coaching /advising other people’s children can be totally different from ur own child we all know that.

Let’s give him the benefit from doubt as to how he is, if needed.
I have been coaching for over 30 years and I can honestly say that my behavior when my kid is wrestling in not admirable. I am embarrassed at the way I have acted at times. I am aware of it and work on it, but if you were to judge by how I act when my kid takes a tough loss, then you would not think much of me. If you were to judge me when I am coaching other kids, in the room or in matches, you would think I was awesome. I don't know anything about this guy, but I can understand how people could have mixed opinions.
 
I have been coaching for over 30 years and I can honestly say that my behavior when my kid is wrestling in not admirable. I am embarrassed at the way I have acted at times. I am aware of it and work on it, but if you were to judge by how I act when my kid takes a tough loss, then you would not think much of me. If you were to judge me when I am coaching other kids, in the room or in matches, you would think I was awesome. I don't know anything about this guy, but I can understand how people could have mixed opinions.
So true! One mistake we dads make is to think that for our own kids we should not use the sugarcoating that we use on other kids. Because, you know, our kids are so tough and indestructible, unlike those other kids who are wimpy. It turns out, our unbelievably tough kids are not always indestructible.
 
So true! One mistake we dads make is to think that for our own kids we should not use the sugarcoating that we use on other kids. Because, you know, our kids are so tough and indestructible, unlike those other kids who are wimpy. It turns out, our unbelievably tough kids are not always indestructible.
I really don't think "helicopter parents" are keeping Cael up at night..
 
So true! One mistake we dads make is to think that for our own kids we should not use the sugarcoating that we use on other kids. Because, you know, our kids are so tough and indestructible, unlike those other kids who are wimpy. It turns out, our unbelievably tough kids are not always indestructible.
My anger and poor behavior was more directed at the refs than my kids: although my oldest got more "encouragement" during matches than my youngest. Like I said, I have been working on it and I have made improvements. That is one of the great things about this sport - we can all learn from it every year.
 
So true! One mistake we dads make is to think that for our own kids we should not use the sugarcoating that we use on other kids. Because, you know, our kids are so tough and indestructible, unlike those other kids who are wimpy. It turns out, our unbelievably tough kids are not always indestructible.
When I was in high school at every match my father sat on the top bleacher with another father of a teammate that went on to become a D1 wrestler. The other parents called them Batman and Robin. I would do something not-so-smart and I would hear it from my father from the top row as clear as a bell. They probably would have been asked to leave some matches in today's era. But back the early 80s everyone laughed at them. Even I chuckled a few times. Sometimes I'd give my opponent the the business with an aggressive cross-face and whisper to him "you made my dad mad at me". Definitely was some form of child abuse I suppose, but I have a pretty thick skin as a result. And my mother wasn't involved at all. She sat as far away from them as possible.
 
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