So Penn State just offered the #12 ranked Punter in the class of 2021? SMH.
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I'm assuming PWO so what wrong with that?So Penn State just offered the #12 ranked Punter in the class of 2021? SMH.
So Penn State just offered the #12 ranked Punter in the class of 2021? SMH.
His other offers are Fordham and William and Mary is I hope soI'm assuming PWO so what wrong with that?
Franklin traded follows with Allen. Don't think it's much of note right now.
While I don't promote following any of these "recruiting" pages on Instagram - It feels like they steal paywalled info and promote as their own - someone had sent this to me and I thought it was funny. Tengwall coming in hot in the comment section in reference to Rucci.
While I don't promote following any of these "recruiting" pages on Instagram - It feels like they steal paywalled info and promote as their own - someone had sent this to me and I thought it was funny. Tengwall coming in hot in the comment section in reference to Rucci.
Yes, I saw that. One interesting and unfortunate thing is that Tengwall never spoke much about Rucci. Tengwall spoke about Pounds and Thornton and Bruce, but not about Rucci. For awhile, I have thought that the two of them may not have been, or be, on the friendliest of terms.
Positive news!While I don't promote following any of these "recruiting" pages on Instagram - It feels like they steal paywalled info and promote as their own - someone had sent this to me and I thought it was funny. Tengwall coming in hot in the comment section in reference to Rucci.
Positive news!
One observation: Not a single prospect from Commonwealth of PA. Sobering.
Drew Shelton is from the Commonwealth of PA.Positive news!
One observation: Not a single prospect from Commonwealth of PA. Sobering.
I was counting him as a commit and not a prospective commit. Point taken...but that is one. A couple of decades ago, PA would have 10 Sheltons in a year. Sign of the times...Drew Shelton is from the Commonwealth of PA.
And the point is what exactly? Pennsylvania is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent and I am mistaken?Tell us when you’re sober.
Why do I care where our athletes come from? Back in the 70s and 80s when I was coaching, staffs followed one another on the recruiting trail. PSU would show up, quickly followed by BC, Army, Syracuse etc. No computers, no rating services etc. Today, all major programs play on TV....camps, events planned by recruiting services and as a result both coaching staffs and recruits expand their "nets" coast to coast.Positive news!
One observation: Not a single prospect from Commonwealth of PA. Sobering.
Rucci's Mother posted a very complimentary comment about Franklin and how her son was recruited by PSU. It gave me the impression that his mind was made up to play with his brother and PSU was never a serious consideration. That more than anything, may explain Tengwell "befriending" other OL candidates that were considered "in play." Honestly, it gets a little creepy how some pine over a 17 year old kid's decision. I've seen fewer tears from a high school kid who asked the home coming queen to the prom and she said "no."Yes, I saw that. One interesting and unfortunate thing is that Tengwall never spoke much about Rucci. Tengwall spoke about Pounds and Thornton and Bruce, but not about Rucci. For awhile, I have thought that the two of them may not have been, or be, on the friendliest of terms.
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Why do I care where our athletes come from? Back in the 70s and 80s when I was coaching, staffs followed one another on the recruiting trail. PSU would show up, quickly followed by BC, Army, Syracuse etc. No computers, no rating services etc. Today, all major programs play on TV....camps, events planned by recruiting services and as a result both coaching staffs and recruits expand their "nets" coast to coast.
Some kids wanna stay close to home and at least an equal number wanna "see how the other half lives...." To each his own. I could care less about getting Pa kids. I want a strong roster.....Franklin does a great job with that.
If I recall, that was his "mantra" when he got here. How long ago was that 6-7 years already? At that time we were losing recruits to Pitt. One should not take offense to losing recruits to blue blood programs....that's the high stakes game you choose to play when you go after big game (5 stars). Perhaps fans would be happier if Franklin only recruited 2 and marginal 3 stars like Nardouche....kids who have very few P5 offers...he'd never lose? People say a lot of things. As long as PSU is a top 10 program most years.....we're gonna hammer Franklin over a slogan? He could say to fans..."go $uck yourself" as his new slogan and I'm just fine. He produces wins, he does a phenomenal job of representing the program.I totally agree but Franklin sort of brought some of the criticism on himself with his "dominate the state" mantra. He didn't need to say it if he didn't value it. I mean, people ran out and bought merchandise with that slogan, and I guess he has failed in that dominating the state by any real measure. Again, I don't personally care where we get our players as long as they can play, but franklin sure used to care.
I totally agree but Franklin sort of brought some of the criticism on himself with his "dominate the state" mantra. He didn't need to say it if he didn't value it. I mean, people ran out and bought merchandise with that slogan, and I guess he has failed in that dominating the state by any real measure. Again, I don't personally care where we get our players as long as they can play, but franklin sure used to care.
Totally agree. But the further you get from your campus, the tougher it gets to get and keep the recruits. With the shift of talent away from PA, Franklin’s job is that much tougher. Franklin’s is doing a good job -but not a great one. He is not recruiting at an elite level. And his game day coaching is good but not elite either. Love Franklin...but it is what is it is...s
Why do I care where our athletes come from? Back in the 70s and 80s when I was coaching, staffs followed one another on the recruiting trail. PSU would show up, quickly followed by BC, Army, Syracuse etc. No computers, no rating services etc. Today, all major programs play on TV....camps, events planned by recruiting services and as a result both coaching staffs and recruits expand their "nets" coast to coast.
Some kids wanna stay close to home and at least an equal number wanna "see how the other half lives...." To each his own. I could care less about getting Pa kids. I want a strong roster.....Franklin does a great job with that.
Yeah, he's "just good" not elite.....don't think he would have to collect unemployment if PSU thinks they can do better.......This is the only fan base that had the greatest coach in history and still whines that he stayed too long......We always deserve better. LOLTotally agree. But the further you get from your campus, the tougher it gets to get and keep the recruits. With the shift of talent away from PA, Franklin’s job is that much tougher. Franklin’s is doing a good job -but not a great one. He is not recruiting at an elite level. And his game day coaching is good but not elite either. Love Franklin...but it is what is it is...
Take a chill pill dude. Who’s whining? You are correct - lots of schools would love to have Franklin. And Penn State could do a lot worse. But the facts are the facts, we are not recruiting or playing at an elite level. We are very good at both. But not at the level of most of a Paterno’s tenure. Nothing inherently wrong with that. And you don’t need to be Vince Lombardi to figure that out. The record speaks for itself.Yeah, he's "just good" not elite.....don't think he would have to collect unemployment if PSU thinks they can do better.......This is the only fan base that had the greatest coach in history and still whines that he stayed too long......We always deserve better. LOL
Our fans are great coach evaluators because.....you know......we just know football inside and out (better than the guys who make millions per year to do so).
Its tough being an elite fan when your coach is only very good.Take a chill pill dude. Who’s whining? You are correct - lots of schools would love to have Franklin. And Penn State could do a lot worse. But the facts are the facts, we are not recruiting or playing at an elite level. We are very good at both. But not at the level of most of a Paterno’s tenure. Nothing inherently wrong with that. And you don’t need to be Vince Lombardi to figure that out. The record speaks for itself.
Do you think the best teams in the country become "elite" by dominating the state? He did what was needed at the time now expand. Why is this so hard to understand?Take a chill pill dude. Who’s whining? You are correct - lots of schools would love to have Franklin. And Penn State could do a lot worse. But the facts are the facts, we are not recruiting or playing at an elite level. We are very good at both. But not at the level of most of a Paterno’s tenure. Nothing inherently wrong with that. And you don’t need to be Vince Lombardi to figure that out. The record speaks for itself.
SIAP:
Daily Collegian writer has some words for Franklin's 2021 recruiting effort...
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Penn State football must repave its recruiting trail | Opinion
On Dec. 20, 2017, Penn State received a commitment from a defensive end out of Harrisburg who would turn out to be the top in-state recruit in his class.www.collegian.psu.edu
James Franklin, once considered a top recruiter, has underachieved in the 2021 class, as the Nittany Lions have an embarrassing ranking disproportionate to their national prominence.
Sitting with the 34th ranked class in the country, Penn State is behind programs such as Mississippi State, NC State and Arkansas — all teams with losing seasons in 2019.
“The reality is that we have gone from an average football team to a good football team to a great football team,” Franklin said after the White Out loss against Ohio State in 2018. “We have worked hard to do those things, but we are not an elite football team yet.”
To get to being an “elite football team,” the Nittany Lions simply can’t obtain a recruiting class below seven other Big Ten programs.
So why is it so difficult to get high school players to don the blue and white uniform?
With a recent Cotton Bowl victory in its pocket and three 11-win seasons in the past four years, Penn State should produce top recruiting classes that compete with powerhouse programs like Clemson, Ohio State and Alabama.
Key word: should.
Penn State has proven since Franklin’s hiring that it is still not yet a national recruiter despite recent successes.
Hell, it can’t even recruit its own state properly.
SIAP:
Daily Collegian writer has some words for Franklin's 2021 recruiting effort...
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Penn State football must repave its recruiting trail | Opinion
On Dec. 20, 2017, Penn State received a commitment from a defensive end out of Harrisburg who would turn out to be the top in-state recruit in his class.www.collegian.psu.edu
James Franklin, once considered a top recruiter, has underachieved in the 2021 class, as the Nittany Lions have an embarrassing ranking disproportionate to their national prominence.
Sitting with the 34th ranked class in the country, Penn State is behind programs such as Mississippi State, NC State and Arkansas — all teams with losing seasons in 2019.
“The reality is that we have gone from an average football team to a good football team to a great football team,” Franklin said after the White Out loss against Ohio State in 2018. “We have worked hard to do those things, but we are not an elite football team yet.”
To get to being an “elite football team,” the Nittany Lions simply can’t obtain a recruiting class below seven other Big Ten programs.
So why is it so difficult to get high school players to don the blue and white uniform?
With a recent Cotton Bowl victory in its pocket and three 11-win seasons in the past four years, Penn State should produce top recruiting classes that compete with powerhouse programs like Clemson, Ohio State and Alabama.
Key word: should.
Penn State has proven since Franklin’s hiring that it is still not yet a national recruiter despite recent successes.
Hell, it can’t even recruit its own state properly.
Not sure what that is supposed to mean. CJF is beloved in my household. We support the team and attend every home game, many away games and bowl games. Does not mean Franklin can not be subjected to honest evaluations.Its tough being an elite fan when your coach is only very good.
No. They become elite by elite recruiting and elite game day coaching. Do we have either at Penn State? In what direction are the trend lines pointing? Is that so hard to understand?Do you think the best teams in the country become "elite" by dominating the state? He did what was needed at the time now expand. Why is this so hard to understand?
YesNo. They become elite by elite recruiting and elite game day coaching. Do we have either at Penn State?
Good to know a coach can be beloved while failing to reach elite status. "Nice" girls need dates to the prom too.Not sure what that is supposed to mean. CJF is beloved in my household. We support the team and attend every home game, many away games and bowl games. Does not mean Franklin can not be subjected to honest evaluations.
Let's not confuse "honest evaluations" with what are merely the opinions of "fans." The evaluations that matter, have been rendered, and the end result is that Franklin is paid mega millions for his expertise.Not sure what that is supposed to mean. CJF is beloved in my household. We support the team and attend every home game, many away games and bowl games. Does not mean Franklin can not be subjected to honest evaluations.
Oh so that is the measure? Well, using that standards, others are paid more and are getting better results. So that seems about right.Let's not confuse "honest evaluations" with what are merely the opinions of "fans." The evaluations that matter, have been rendered, and the end result is that Franklin is paid mega millions for his expertise.
No, you are right.....let's go with fanboys making the "evaluations."Oh so that is the measure? Well, using that standards, others are paid more and are getting better results. So that seems about right.
Use that standard and apply it to your opinion. Facts are: 1. recruiting rankings, 10-15 and drifting downward.; 2. On field play 10-15th and holding steady (for now). Bottom line: not top 5-6 and not elite. Nothing wrong with that. But those are the facts (not an opinion).Let's not confuse "honest evaluations" with what are merely the opinions of "fans." The evaluations that matter, have been rendered, and the end result is that Franklin is paid mega millions for his expertise.
And who are you? Sandy Barbour?No, your right.....let's go with fanboys making the "evaluations."
And who are you? Sandy Barbour?
Well they can...and CJF seems to be working hard to get PSU to elite. But dies not mean he will get us there. Do you think others are not working hard? Perhaps they are just better. No shame in that.Good to know a coach can be beloved while failing to reach elite status. "Nice" girls need dates to the prom too.