2024 Olympic Trials match and discussion thread
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So the tribe has spoken? That guy is voted off PSU Island? Now the rest of the US fanbase can love Penn State as much as we do. #problemsolved
JB seemed to resolve his issue with his socks not staying up in this match, lol.
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My two bits on the fan behavior. When you're watching a close and exciting match, your own adrenaline goes sky high and you have to be extra careful about your behavior and what you say. When I was an assistant coach for a high school in WA, I had a very similar situation occur. In a really close and exciting finals match in a tournament, the ref made a call in favor of the other wrester and I just exploded and yelled "You suck ref!". Fortunately , he didn't hear me or I would have been ejected on the spot. As I was driving home later after having calmed down a bit, I started feeling pretty embarrassed by my own behavior. I made a personal commitment to apologize to the ref the next time I saw him which I did a few days later. He was a little puzzled about my apology since he didn't actually hear me, but he knew exactly what call had motivated me and he took the time to explain why he made the call the way he did. The cool part about everything is that we became immediate friends, so my story has a good ending.
The point about my post is that whoever called out to JB might have had a temporary lapse in good judgement caused by an adrenaline rush and blasted out something that they may have later regretted. We don't know that for sure, but it is a possibility.
The point about my post is that whoever called out to JB might have had a temporary lapse in good judgement caused by an adrenaline rush and blasted out something that they may have later regretted. We don't know that for sure, but it is a possibility.
All is forgiven when Willie brings in Bassett.
Just my take.
Burroughs has been a great US wrestling champion. I appreciate his resume. With that said, coming into Penn State's house he has been chirping at a bunch of Penn State wrestling legends and in the past he has chirpped at Penn State's biggest wrestling legend. JB does not appear to be the guy who ever decides to take the high road and bypass the verbal chirp or Twitter drama.
JB felt it necessary to appear to lecture a Penn Stater after defeating him. While competing today he spent more time pulling up his socks than he did wrestling.
Penn State fans could have been more respectful of Burroughs and his past accomplishments. His behavior leading up to today's event and during today's competition and post competition hardly demanded respect though. To put it rather bluntly, JB has been pissing into the wind and is now crying because he pissed on his saggy socks.
Manning leaving the mat with Burroughs after the Mesenbrink match blowing kisses and shouting at fans is hardly in a position to be very judgemental. Mark Manning comes across as a whiney, little blowhard and the fact he needs and expects Willie Saylor to be his apology secretary says enough about Manning. Take Snyder out of the Nebraska program and Nebraska with Manning running the show has the Cornhuskers looking like the Oklahoma Sooners.
Burroughs has been a great US wrestling champion. I appreciate his resume. With that said, coming into Penn State's house he has been chirping at a bunch of Penn State wrestling legends and in the past he has chirpped at Penn State's biggest wrestling legend. JB does not appear to be the guy who ever decides to take the high road and bypass the verbal chirp or Twitter drama.
JB felt it necessary to appear to lecture a Penn Stater after defeating him. While competing today he spent more time pulling up his socks than he did wrestling.
Penn State fans could have been more respectful of Burroughs and his past accomplishments. His behavior leading up to today's event and during today's competition and post competition hardly demanded respect though. To put it rather bluntly, JB has been pissing into the wind and is now crying because he pissed on his saggy socks.
Manning leaving the mat with Burroughs after the Mesenbrink match blowing kisses and shouting at fans is hardly in a position to be very judgemental. Mark Manning comes across as a whiney, little blowhard and the fact he needs and expects Willie Saylor to be his apology secretary says enough about Manning. Take Snyder out of the Nebraska program and Nebraska with Manning running the show has the Cornhuskers looking like the Oklahoma Sooners.
Some of the post Nolf v Burroughs behavior could probably be contributed to a decently high volume of consumed beer.
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The three men I admire most are Curly, Larry, and Moe.
There is a jackass in every arena. The second jackass paints with a broad brush, and assumes jackass#1 has much in common with the rest of the fans there. I deeply respect JB's career, he may be the best ever. His exit not so much, but that is all I will say about that.
The ATM ate my card. It's not my fault.
I’m guessing you missed the parts where Manning and JB were jawing with the crowd after every match JB wrestled, right? Is that ok? JB’s tweeting is ok too I’m guessing? He played the heel, and he got the reaction he wanted.
Again, stuff like this is hilarious coming from an Iowa fan. Who the hell are you to judge another fan base? Have you seen your fans? I’d rather some boo’s than a bunch of racists.
Excellent post. Unfortunately, it's about being an attention freek online for traffic. There's bad blood between the fan base and JB, no doubt about it. There's also a huge difference between someone like J'Den and Jordon. One person in the stands doesn't make a fan base.
This is insane. Oh the PSU fans are horrible for booing the goat. Blah blah blah.
So reverse the roles. We are in Lincoln, Nebraska and Messenbrink hauls off mad hard on the back of JB’s head out of frustration. He also keeps playing with his socks to collect himself during the match. So you saying those fans will not be booing the heck out of Mitchell and screaming stuff at him during and after the match?? Oh I am sure they would have been respectful to Mitchell in JB’s backyard. GTFOH.
So reverse the roles. We are in Lincoln, Nebraska and Messenbrink hauls off mad hard on the back of JB’s head out of frustration. He also keeps playing with his socks to collect himself during the match. So you saying those fans will not be booing the heck out of Mitchell and screaming stuff at him during and after the match?? Oh I am sure they would have been respectful to Mitchell in JB’s backyard. GTFOH.
I hate how wrestling events always turn into a discussion about proper booing etiquette.
1) JB is a great wrestler.
2) JB took extended breaks, wouldn’t return to center mat, head smashed Messinbrink, was assessed an unsportsmanlike, and deserved to be booed for his petty antics.
The statements can coexist.
1) JB is a great wrestler.
2) JB took extended breaks, wouldn’t return to center mat, head smashed Messinbrink, was assessed an unsportsmanlike, and deserved to be booed for his petty antics.
The statements can coexist.
This is so hilarious. One guy yells “career over”, which it is, after a great loses to a local favorite and all hell breaks out about fan decorum at a wrestling meet.
Come on man! This ain’t golf or tennis!
Burroughs deserved it no matter his accomplishments which are stellar. He could have simply kept walking up the tunnel and not engaged a loud fan! But he decided to turn around and shout back. Because of that the entire PSU fan base is crap.
Yep, that makes a lot of sense.
Come on man! This ain’t golf or tennis!
Burroughs deserved it no matter his accomplishments which are stellar. He could have simply kept walking up the tunnel and not engaged a loud fan! But he decided to turn around and shout back. Because of that the entire PSU fan base is crap.
Yep, that makes a lot of sense.
It seems these days fewer and fewer are willing to turn the other cheek and maintain the moral high ground. The fear of the perception of being seen as weak may be reaching epidemic proportions.
Like, whatever happened to the notion 'two wrongs don't make a right?'
Like, whatever happened to the notion 'two wrongs don't make a right?'
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Nothing like a person who thinks of themselve as a media professional using profanity to claim a fanbase is in the gutter.
Am I the only one here who, like JB, is curious about what the attendee who yelled "career is over" has accomplished in their own career and life?
If you're out there and read this, would you please reply?
If you're out there and read this, would you please reply?
They're not comparable. The entire argument is that Burroughs' career insulates him from booing. Mesenbrink does not have that career yet.
JB is a legendary wrestler and a complete puke of a human being. He has won more than just about everyone, but his style is boring and his act is even more tiring. I want him to retire and go away so I don't have to watch him stand around for 6 minutes and then try and act like he isn't what is ruining wrestling. I wish he would man up and fight Bo or DT so his face would be too swollen to talk for a few weeks. I said it and I'm not sorry.
Both of you nailed it!
I’m a PSU fan. I can give a rats ass if fans of other teams are upset that I booed JB.
I love Willie and Basch, but I can really care less about their opinions on this. I don’t hold it against them, just agree to disagree and move on
Is there a career threshold that makes the heckling acceptable to Burroughs and the wrestling media?
"Hey Jordan, I'm an astronaut."
"Oh, OK then, heckle me as much as you want."
Tomorrow is here and I can't wait either. While the wrestling was fantastic, the craziest moment of the day from my seat was when Spencer's Mom and Larry were walking up the steps in my section. First I saw a big LEE on Larry's shirt and then Mom right behind him, no glasses. I elbowed by brother and said "That's Spencer Lee's mom. Then, spontaneously, everyone around us, including the older lady next to us, started taking their glasses off and reaching into their pockets for their glasses and holding them out. I don't think Mom saw this. I almost passed out laughing.
Manning has every right to be upset. Carter did steal Bubba Wilson’s National Championship.
Totally agree. Why does how one score matter? Wrestler until one wins with points.
I might agree with the first point if it also included defensive pulls -- but either way we make the refs judge intent. Sometimes it's not going to be that obvious.
For those who don't like criteria, go to confession and tell the priest that for contrition you'll watch the Suriano-Fix 26-minute HS match on a loop for a full day.
Imagine if Spencer makes the Olympics how the entire world will get to see his mom make a spectacle of herself. Yes, wrestling fans have seen the video but with the Olympics it will include a couple of billion more people.
IDK, ask JB. He's the one who asked the question. But yeah, I might give "cured cancer" a pass.
Are you saying it was PSU Alum and Santa Claus booing Philadelphia native Guion Bluford?
It's all starting to make sense to me now.
Why? It doesn't make JB a better human being. 2 things that never go on my pedestal or get worship. Athletes and fking politicians. Ya know who does? People that defend my country, and those that risk their lives for others. Gold medals don't make the man a better man than someone else. If that were the case, folks like Armstrong, Tiger, OJ and hundreds of others would still be heroes. A hero is a great parent, not money and medals.
All these people talking crap on social media about Mitchell, saying he deserved the head smash for wrestling after the whistle and all.
How dare they after all Mitchell has accomplished in wrestling. Junior world champ, NCAA finalist as a freshman, etc.
Is that how this works?
How dare they after all Mitchell has accomplished in wrestling. Junior world champ, NCAA finalist as a freshman, etc.
Is that how this works?
If these guys want no harassment, or comments from friends in the stands, why do we even allow people in? Why have people even watch these things? You want people to care about the sport and be passionate sbout the sport but not even make a peep?
Maybe we should just not have sports so people behave? Or maybe these guys should get a thicker skin and understand that college or freestyle wrestling isn’t more special than hockey, basketball, football. Tom Brady must have a skin made out of about 100 foot titanium with the kind of violent rhetoric that’s been thrown at him compared to a guy like Jordan Burroughs.
For burrows, my wife who knows nothing about wrestling made a comment that he sure takes a lot of time pulling up his socks. She asked 35 year old man can’t buy better socks. I said that Mitchell pushes the pace hard and he’s older and he’s just stalling.
Yes, It really did happen, including the older lady. It's really unfortunate that the most recognized woman's face in wrestling is not Maroulis or Gray, or Blades, or Hildebrant, but Spencer's Mom.
Oh I'm here. Just real busy weekend so not much time to post.
Those MMA fans booing Bo at UFC 300. Don’t they know all he has accomplished in wrestling and MMA?
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