2024 Olympic Trials match and discussion thread
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Quincy Monday techs Alex Marinelli, so Monday will face Mesenbrink in his next match.
As much as I love our coaches, the only one I trust with the brick is Casey
varner is awful. should never have brick access lol.
it’s close and gilman’s body blocks the angle of spencer’s back from this view. do they have a different angle for review?
65kg Final- Nick Lee vs. Zain Retherford
P1:
Tying up in the center & circling
Zain trying to horse Nick around
Lee half shot, nothing
Lee warned for passivity, Zain a little more aggressive or physical.
Tying up & circling in the center, pushing into each other
Zain warned for passivity
Zain half shot, nothing
Lee shoots, almost gets the leg, but Zain pulls away
Zain passivity again, goes on the clock
Zain shoots in for a single, working, but great scrambling by Lee
Zain shoots again, but Nick scrambles out again, great action!
Shot clock point Lee, 1-0
30-sec left
Zain shoots another double, gets a leg & pushes Nick out for a step out 1-1, Zain advantage
Time expires
1-1, Zain advantage
P2
Tying up & then breaking away
Hand fighting, snap Lee & shot, but nothing
Hand fighting, head slapping, Zain half shot, nothing
Lee half shot, nothing
Tying up & looking for an opening
Passivity warning Lee
Zain shoots, nothing.
Lee goes on the shot clock
Zain shoots, nothing, Lee half shot, nothing
Shot clock point Zain, 2-1, Zain
Tying up & looking for an opening
1-min left
Lee shoots, but nothing
Tying up, Zain reaches for a leg, nothing, stalemate, restart
Someone is bleeding, blood time
33-sec left
There might have been a head butt, because it looks like both wrestlers are having their foreheads tended to. Dan Monthly out trying to help both. Lee's corner brushes him away.
Back to action
Tying up, Lee moving forward, Zain blocking off
Lee looking for a shot, nothing, Zain blocking him off, restart for something
And more blood time- wiping blood off the mat.
It looks like Casey & someone I don't recognize in Nick's corner, and Cody & Varner in Zain's
Back at it again, 10-sec left
Pulling on the head, Lee looking for a shot, but can't find anything
Time expires
Zain Retherford DEC Nick Lee 2-1
Zain wins Match 1
P1:
Tying up in the center & circling
Zain trying to horse Nick around
Lee half shot, nothing
Lee warned for passivity, Zain a little more aggressive or physical.
Tying up & circling in the center, pushing into each other
Zain warned for passivity
Zain half shot, nothing
Lee shoots, almost gets the leg, but Zain pulls away
Zain passivity again, goes on the clock
Zain shoots in for a single, working, but great scrambling by Lee
Zain shoots again, but Nick scrambles out again, great action!
Shot clock point Lee, 1-0
30-sec left
Zain shoots another double, gets a leg & pushes Nick out for a step out 1-1, Zain advantage
Time expires
1-1, Zain advantage
P2
Tying up & then breaking away
Hand fighting, snap Lee & shot, but nothing
Hand fighting, head slapping, Zain half shot, nothing
Lee half shot, nothing
Tying up & looking for an opening
Passivity warning Lee
Zain shoots, nothing.
Lee goes on the shot clock
Zain shoots, nothing, Lee half shot, nothing
Shot clock point Zain, 2-1, Zain
Tying up & looking for an opening
1-min left
Lee shoots, but nothing
Tying up, Zain reaches for a leg, nothing, stalemate, restart
Someone is bleeding, blood time
33-sec left
There might have been a head butt, because it looks like both wrestlers are having their foreheads tended to. Dan Monthly out trying to help both. Lee's corner brushes him away.
Back to action
Tying up, Lee moving forward, Zain blocking off
Lee looking for a shot, nothing, Zain blocking him off, restart for something
And more blood time- wiping blood off the mat.
It looks like Casey & someone I don't recognize in Nick's corner, and Cody & Varner in Zain's
Back at it again, 10-sec left
Pulling on the head, Lee looking for a shot, but can't find anything
Time expires
Zain Retherford DEC Nick Lee 2-1
Zain wins Match 1
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it was Casey that threw the brick. looked like 4 all day to me.
Won’t be a true tournament until Zain gets the head wrap
These two guys know each other too well. A lot of hand fighting with one great scramble that led to no points.
It was Cody, but it looked like Thomas wanted it.
He could’ve given it back to them, right?
Nate Jackson just did what I think most should do when facing a guy in neutral on a knee. Blow right through him, feet to back
Next time Davis vs Ayala?
Next time Davis vs Ayala?
Varner is typically bad with the brick..like I said. Casey is rarely wrong and in college wrestling he’s phenomenal
he could have, yes. it was a really difficult call and situation imo.
in real time it seemed like a textbook 4 to me.
He's a fan, fans interact. A rich successful person now might have to sit on his ass and count his money. It's all part of the game. You don't want fans at games or matches, fine, let's see how much interest there is in sports after that.
Burroughs was not vanquished, he lost at sports ball. Something he's been well compensated for doing. It's not war, it's not life or death, it's a game. And if it was war he wouldn't here any boos or comments after he was vanquished because he'd be dead.
I don't hate it but IMO it would be not as good as the current system.
Criteria is not about the outcome -- it's about the process. After the first point of the match, somebody is winning at all times, and therefore there is no incentive for both guys to mail it in in the 2nd period.
We've seen plenty of matches at B10s, NCAAs, and states where both guys shut down in the last 30-60 minutes of regulation. This system prevents that.
The other issues are: (1) if no scoring in OT, then we just use regulation criteria anyway; (2) It de-emphasizes conditioning -- a gassed wrestler could extend a tie into OT, get a massive break, and then get a quick winning score off the OT whistle.
No idea what you're talking about wrt rich people. Are you saying poor people can not have and show class? Or are you saying rich people are forced to act classy? Sort of reads that way. I don't believe either to be true.
Maybe try not to take everything I write literally.
There remain larger truths. Mercy is good. Grace is good. One's station in life doesn't limit its ability to be shown.
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Please save this for later or put it in another thread. There are actual matches going on right now. Maybe we should focus on those?
Can we please leave the Twitter/X bs on Twitter/X and keep this to today's wrestling.
Hey dummy - anyone have links to a bracket ??
I’m sitting right behind the review officials. That view was the only one they looked at. Unbelievable that they don’t have a camera on the other side of the mat.
Both true, if they want interested and passionate fans at these things and they want to play up certain things for social media fame, this goes with it. I have an idea. No fans, no ticket sales, nothing but print media coverage and maybe radio feeds like it was 1930 or so. then see the money that is made by these guys.
It's like going to Florida and complaining about mosquitos and the heat.
Maybe try not to be so the way you are. Burroughs has made a fortune from wrestling, a very competitive sport, part of which is building a brand and getting medias attention and profiting from it. In doing this sport some will disagree with you and as long as they are allowed to watch these sports in person, which helps pay you, they will sometimes boo. deal with it. Stop trying to be so deliberately pedantic.
This isn't some huge morality play, it's a game that he has been well compensated from playing. The fans paid some big money to be close enough to make a comment he could hear.
57kg Consi: Luke Lilledahl vs. Marcus Blaze
P1:
Here we go
Hand-fighting in the center, head snaps, both feeling each other out early
More hand-fighting & looking for an opening
Blaze half shot, nothing
Passivity warning Blaze
More hand-fighting & head slaps, & tying up
Luke shoots for an ankle, Blaze kicks out, nothing, restart
Blaze pushing forward, Luke circles back to center
Blaze on the shot clock
Shot clock point Luke 1-0
Hand-fighting & head slaps
Luke passivity warning
45-sec left
Tying up, pushing & breaking away, hand-fighting
Luke shot, nothing, Blaze semi-counter, nothing
20-sec left
Tying up, circling & hand-fighting as time expires
1-0 Luke
P2:
Back to action
Luke head snap, & half shot, nothing
Blaze working a 2 on 1, nothing
Luke half shot, nothing
Luke on the shot clock
Neither seems to be able to get through the other's defense
Shot clock point Blaze, 1-1
Blaze in on a quick blast low double & gets a turn 2+2, 5-1 Blaze
Luke pushing forward
1:30 left
Luke shoots, but Blaze with solid defense
Luke half shot
1-min left
Luke snap, but nothing
Blaze working a 2 on 1
Luke pushing forward, but no solid shots
Luke looking for an opening, but Blaze with solid defense
Luke gets to an ankle, but Blaze fights him off
Marcus Blaze DEC Luke Lilledahl 5-1
P1:
Here we go
Hand-fighting in the center, head snaps, both feeling each other out early
More hand-fighting & looking for an opening
Blaze half shot, nothing
Passivity warning Blaze
More hand-fighting & head slaps, & tying up
Luke shoots for an ankle, Blaze kicks out, nothing, restart
Blaze pushing forward, Luke circles back to center
Blaze on the shot clock
Shot clock point Luke 1-0
Hand-fighting & head slaps
Luke passivity warning
45-sec left
Tying up, pushing & breaking away, hand-fighting
Luke shot, nothing, Blaze semi-counter, nothing
20-sec left
Tying up, circling & hand-fighting as time expires
1-0 Luke
P2:
Back to action
Luke head snap, & half shot, nothing
Blaze working a 2 on 1, nothing
Luke half shot, nothing
Luke on the shot clock
Neither seems to be able to get through the other's defense
Shot clock point Blaze, 1-1
Blaze in on a quick blast low double & gets a turn 2+2, 5-1 Blaze
Luke pushing forward
1:30 left
Luke shoots, but Blaze with solid defense
Luke half shot
1-min left
Luke snap, but nothing
Blaze working a 2 on 1
Luke pushing forward, but no solid shots
Luke looking for an opening, but Blaze with solid defense
Luke gets to an ankle, but Blaze fights him off
Marcus Blaze DEC Luke Lilledahl 5-1
Basic human dignity?
So this is a god Jess
No one thinks you’re a Penn State hater outside about 10 people. Haven’t really seen it in this thread.
Just interesting that, in an entire building of inebriated wrestling fans, we’re calling out what’s said to JB. What makes JB special as a protected wrestler?
If the answer is “I called out everyone getting insulted and it was only JB so that’s who I called out”. Then it seems that one guy getting called out over hours means they’re pretty good wrestling fans tbh.
Blaze is tough. One exchange match. Very excited to see Luke in the blue and white next year.
Blaze dec Lilledahl 5-1 on a 2nd period takedown + lace. Lilledahl struggled to find an opening to shoot. Blaze also used a Russian tie to kill clock -- not saying he stalled, just that it was a smart and effective approach with the lead.
Free is growing on me. This weekend I’ve learned more about scoring and strategy plays than I knew by a ton. That match was low scoring but fun.
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