2025 Hodge snubs Carter
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Didn’t Mitchell have no pins? Good job stat man.
Do you prefer I say that Wyatt had more than 2x as many pins as Carter? I'm fine with that.
Only if you post in in bold font to make your point even stronger.
That beating last weekend must have really stung. This is fascinating.
Not sure what you mean. Surely others gray shirted in 2020 to be true freshman in 2021. They could've been 5 timers just like those enrolled who redshirted in 2020.
Was Carter supposed to take Cenzo's or Mark Hall's starting spot in 2020?
Aaron took Craig Edsell's(?).
Yeah, but all but the top 3 Hwts mostly suck. Dancing bears for the most part. Just sayin.
Simply unfounded. There are several world age group medalists in the weight class. You guys are so desperate to discredit Wyatt and Gable. It's a bad look for Penn State fans.
Yes, check wrestle stat 2020 team the only freshmen that were still eligible for this year took a RS that year.
All freshmen that did not RS in 2020 only had 4 tournaments, thier 5th would have been a RS year for them.
Well, mostly PSU fans are reading this. I suppose one or two might engage in modest self-reflection in light of your assertion of their desperation.
Easy to make a case for Wyatt this year. It just “feels” wrong because he was never a strong consideration during the entire season, so it sort of caught most people by surprise immediately after the NCAA finals.
I would have enjoyed seeing Carter win it, but not a big deal.
Also, I don’t think some of you realize that this was the first year at NCAAs Penn State got more cheers when we lost than when we won. I’m hoping we don’t continue to give them more reasons to do so here.
As an aside, I expect we will see more and more new money Ok State fans grace us with their presence in the future.
I would have enjoyed seeing Carter win it, but not a big deal.
Also, I don’t think some of you realize that this was the first year at NCAAs Penn State got more cheers when we lost than when we won. I’m hoping we don’t continue to give them more reasons to do so here.
As an aside, I expect we will see more and more new money Ok State fans grace us with their presence in the future.
To state it’s not a career award is a farce. Wyatt deserves the Hodge because of Gable’s PAST CAREER. If he had not won the Olympics, there is no “greatest upset ever”. It is one unbeaten heavyweight beating another one. You can’t have it both ways. If Gable’s career is considered, so should Carter’s accomplishments
Hendrickson was awesome. Difficult to get that 2nd period TF out of my mind when my guy, with 5 natty daddies, loses the Hodge to him.
Are you talking just PSU and ignoring 2020 gray shirts?
Beau Bartlett was a 1st year freshmen in 2021. He started. He had 5 tournaments.
Micheal Beard Gray-shirted in 2019 and RS in 2020. He had 5 tournaments.
Maybe we are talking past one another.
Just another slight that Carter will use to fuel his fire. Can't wait to see what the future holds for him.
One argument being made that I hadn’t considered, and I think is valid is that, while we’re not supposed to consider anything other than 24-25, we’re considering the 2020-2024 achievements of those Hendrickson beat.
Which one is it?
Which one is it?
I've been saying this from the beginning and then I got sucked in.
This a forum for fans. As a fan I think this blows.
Some posters are better at sucking than others.
Pretty much. But they’re going to cheer more for our losses regardless. The shine has worn off and for better or worse were the evil empire now.
Ok got it.... yes we are both correct.
2020 was the lost year, no tourney. Seniors lost that year as well.
2021 was the extra year, so RS freshmen and true freshmen got the extra year.
I disagree, everybody is the underdog now. If you have no vested interest most root for the underdog. I don't think they were cheering we lost as much as some one else won.
My whole thought strengthened your argument, that's almost two while classes that got an opportunity to get 5.
One would have to rhink that coaches and kids saw this opportunity of 5 years of eligibility and played their cards accordingly.
My whole point for engaging this in the first place was to dispute any assertion that only Carter had the opportunity to be a 5-timer. Fact is plenty could've depending on gray shirting in 2020, red shirting 2020, or starting as a True Freshman in 2021. But only Carter actually accomplished the feat.
That said, Carter acknowledged early on he didn't think 5 was so important, because it was sort of a flukey opportunity. He was quick to admit Cael could've, given a similar opportunity.
Fast twitch could have done it but .........
Let's not forget Mekhi Lewis might've. He won in 2019 and took an Olympic RS in 2020. (Edit) He competed in 5 championships. His body didn't seem to hold out though.
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Lewis actually competed in 5 NCAAs (2019, 2021-2024). And he was healthy in 2022 when Carter beat him with a broken hand.
He forfeited out with injury in 2021. Otherwise his worst finish was 4th.
Thanks. I probably misread the VA Tech write up of his career (or it wasn't updated for 2024).
I feel, as someone said earlier, that it turned into a popularity contest mostly because mitch got a good percentage of the vote. Carter deserved the Hodge. But that's politics and I thought politics was a taboo subject here.
I wonder how many Hodge voters declined to vote for CS due to his team point deduction and/or some of his social media posts and interviews. Sportsmanship is a criteria
Not at all, those same fans were cheering for Penn State while on the way to the top. We are not so shiny any more.
Who knows. Steveson's female relations didn't cost him either Hodge.
That’s my point.
I think we’re at a point where there’s fatigue setting in, and not going to get anyone on the fence in any matches. Instead, it’s actively rooting against the blue singlet.
Maybe we’re saying the same thing?
I think they still cheer for them in good matches they win too. I don't think it's personal for most fans. Yes the die hards hate us.
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