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4,000 fans thought the Clark-Montoya 2-0 match was....

dunkej01

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....... very exciting. Don't be fooled by the fallacy that high-scoring matches mean more excitement. Often they are simply bad wrestling

Jamz, could you pontificate on this a little more?
 
You should have been there. Montoya had Clark on the ropes all match, but could not finish his leg attacks. Great attitude by Montoya including a "wait until next time" during the handshake. The fallacy that has been propagated (mostly by Foley) is that higher scores mean more excitement for the fans. Excitement in wrestling has nothing to do with how high the score may be, especially when it is sloppy wrestling or inflated scoring rules (4 nearfall instead of 3) causing the scoring. A NBA all-star game is high-scoring. That doesn't make it exciting to watch.
 
I didn't watch the Montoya / Clark match, and only listen to Foley for entertainment, but here's one man's opinion...

A 2-0 match can be entertaining, but the AVERAGE 2-0 match is not. In statistical terms, one would have to go out to 3 standard deviations to find an entertaining 2-0 match.
 
I didn't watch the Montoya / Clark match, and only listen to Foley for entertainment, but here's one man's opinion...

A 2-0 match can be entertaining, but the AVERAGE 2-0 match is not. In statistical terms, one would have to go out to 3 standard deviations to find an entertaining 2-0 match.
Disagree. 2-0 matches happen very rarely. NE-IA had 3 of them and they were all exciting bouts as the dual was on the line. That would seem to disprove your statistical theory.
 
Are 2-0 matches fun for the fans of the teams involved. ....probably

Are 2-0 matches fun for general wrestling fans ..... probable

Are 2-0 matches fun for potential fans.....not so much

Your right I didn't see it and will reserve judgement and take your word for it.
 
You should have been there. Montoya had Clark on the ropes all match, but could not finish his leg attacks. Great attitude by Montoya including a "wait until next time" during the handshake. The fallacy that has been propagated (mostly by Foley) is that higher scores mean more excitement for the fans. Excitement in wrestling has nothing to do with how high the score may be, especially when it is sloppy wrestling or inflated scoring rules (4 nearfall instead of 3) causing the scoring. A NBA all-star game is high-scoring. That doesn't make it exciting to watch.

And excitement in wrestling is NOT watching Clark win the match by stalling on top the entire 2nd period without once even attempting a turn or even acting like he cared about turning Montoya.
 
check out Luke Smith's 1-0 win over Bryce Steiert. Some of the best scrambles this year in a very exciting match.
 
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