A Little Tough to Swallow
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The "optics" of this decision, which are squarely on the shoulders of Barbour and no one else, are horrible.
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Okay, then where does the need of comping dozens of administrators and their families fit into the scheme?
LOL Relax, it was sarcasm. Old habit, I've been getting a rise out of band geeks since jr high. Can't help it. Thanks for adding to the joy, bro. Its all good, you're important too...My God......some folks apparently couldn't find their own ass - with two hands, a map, and a flashlight.
First of all I think they should have flown the Blue Band to Jax. As it relates to some of the "old Blue band guys flying down" as I understand they have changed some of the rules on financing.
As i understand the Bowl sponsors used to pay for the team/band etc. to travel to the bowl and provide lodging. Nowadays they pay nothing and the school funds the travel and lodging. Of course the University share of the bowl money is huge so it doen't excuse not flying them down. Just pointing out I think the times are different.
As i understand the Bowl sponsors used to pay for the team/band etc. to travel to the bowl and provide lodging. Nowadays they pay nothing and the school funds the travel and lodging. Of course the University share of the bowl money is huge so it doen't excuse not flying them down. Just pointing out I think the times are different.
A few little things to ponder:
a. the 747 flown down to Jacksonville seats about 380. You can look at that a couple of ways;
b. the Big Ten provided PSU with a $2mm expense allowance for the TaxSlayer Bowl.
Draw your own conclusions.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
12/28/2015
From:
Jeff Nelson Associate AD, Strategic Communications (jtn4@psu.edu)
Re:
Travel to TaxSlayer Bowl
Earlier today, the Penn State Football Team arrived in Jacksonville to begin preparations for the January 2nd meeting between the Nittany Lions and the University of Georgia Bulldogs.
This will be the first meeting between these two historic programs since January 1st 1983, in the 49th annual Sugar Bowl. Penn State’s 27-23 victory in the 1983 Sugar Bowl sealed the program's first National Championship. On that day, the Penn State offense was led by star tailback Curt Warner, and All-American QB Todd Blackledge. A swarming Penn State defense shut down the Bulldog’s Heisman Trophy winning running back, Hershel Walker.
The 1982 Penn State squad – apparently – played without the need for a Head Coach.
The 2015 Penn State squad compiled a record of 7-5 in the rugged Big Ten East, and will be seeking its second bowl victory in as many seasons under Head Coach James Franklin.
The entire 163 member football program: the entire 126 member squad (including all injured, red-shirting, and non-scholarship student-athletes), the entire 10 man coaching staff, 12 man support staff, and the 15 person athletic training staff traveled together aboard a United 747-400 jetliner.
The chartered United 747-400 departed Harrisburg PA at 12:45 pm, and touched down in Jacksonville FLA at 2:27 pm.
Aside from the football traveling party of 163 people, it is not confirmed that anyone was seated in the remaining 211 seats on the United 747-400.
Contrary to unfounded speculation, it cannot be confirmed that 200+ empty suits enjoyed the first class travel accommodations. Neither Sandy Barbour (PSU Director of Athletics) nor PSU President Eric Barron could be reached for comment. Both Ms Barbour’s and Mr Barron’s offices noted that they were travelling between the hours of 12:30 and 2:30 pm, and were unavailable for comment.
Ms Julie DelGiorno – PSU Athletics Integrity Officer - was reached at her home earlier in the day, but was unable to speak at length, as she was “busy packing some sensible shoes….Ferragamo Wing Tips, men’s size 10 ½, and some loafers…for an important business trip”.
Attempts to reach any of the 21 Assistant/Associate Athletic Directors were similarly uneventful, as they all were unavailable due to travel commitments.
Given PSU Intercollegiate Athletics projected operating profit of negative $16 million for the fiscal year ending in July 2016, and in accordance with Penn State ICA’s ongoing efforts to be the World Leader in fiscal responsibility, any of the non-athletic travel party (which may or may not exist) were responsible for procuring their own bellman service to load their luggage from their homes into the personal automobiles.
Personal automobiles – rather than chauffeured vehicles – were required to be used by all members of the administrative staff for travel to/from Harrisburg International Airport (fully reimbursed by the University, of course).
Rumors that hundreds of administrators and other non-athletic associates have been afforded luxury travel accommodations, five days of resort lodging, and unlimited food and beverage - all on the tab of Penn State ICA - are completely unfounded (which means, it may or may not be true, but no PSU spokesperson is authorized to comment).
In unrelated news: the media should be aware that from December 28th through January 2nd, any of the nineteen Vice-President or Vice-Provost members of Eric Barron’s Presidential Council can be reached at (904) 432-1467 (the concierge desk at the Omni Amelia Island….$279 per night).
Ms Barbour forwarded her best wishes to the members of the Penn State University Blue Band, who are travelling to Jacksonville aboard luxury motor coaches.
After taking up a collection among members of the PSU Official Travel Party (the existence of which can neither be confirmed or denied) Ms Barbour has pledged to cover the expenses of “Happy Meals for Everyone” as they make their way to Florida.
Ms Barbour herself contributed $500 to the fund….in the form of the Best Buy gift certificates she received upon the recent installation of the Samsung 78" Class Curved Screen LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV (suggested retail price $8,999.98) in her recently re-redecorated office.
________________________________________
Further media inquiries should be directed to:
Ms Helen Waite .
312 Old Main, University Park, Pennsylvania 16802 (814)-865-7517
Copyright: The Pennsylvania State University © 2015
12/28/2015
From:
Jeff Nelson Associate AD, Strategic Communications (jtn4@psu.edu)
Re:
Travel to TaxSlayer Bowl
Earlier today, the Penn State Football Team arrived in Jacksonville to begin preparations for the January 2nd meeting between the Nittany Lions and the University of Georgia Bulldogs.
This will be the first meeting between these two historic programs since January 1st 1983, in the 49th annual Sugar Bowl. Penn State’s 27-23 victory in the 1983 Sugar Bowl sealed the program's first National Championship. On that day, the Penn State offense was led by star tailback Curt Warner, and All-American QB Todd Blackledge. A swarming Penn State defense shut down the Bulldog’s Heisman Trophy winning running back, Hershel Walker.
The 1982 Penn State squad – apparently – played without the need for a Head Coach.
The 2015 Penn State squad compiled a record of 7-5 in the rugged Big Ten East, and will be seeking its second bowl victory in as many seasons under Head Coach James Franklin.
The entire 163 member football program: the entire 126 member squad (including all injured, red-shirting, and non-scholarship student-athletes), the entire 10 man coaching staff, 12 man support staff, and the 15 person athletic training staff traveled together aboard a United 747-400 jetliner.
The chartered United 747-400 departed Harrisburg PA at 12:45 pm, and touched down in Jacksonville FLA at 2:27 pm.
Aside from the football traveling party of 163 people, it is not confirmed that anyone was seated in the remaining 211 seats on the United 747-400.
Contrary to unfounded speculation, it cannot be confirmed that 200+ empty suits enjoyed the first class travel accommodations. Neither Sandy Barbour (PSU Director of Athletics) nor PSU President Eric Barron could be reached for comment. Both Ms Barbour’s and Mr Barron’s offices noted that they were travelling between the hours of 12:30 and 2:30 pm, and were unavailable for comment.
Ms Julie DelGiorno – PSU Athletics Integrity Officer - was reached at her home earlier in the day, but was unable to speak at length, as she was “busy packing some sensible shoes….Ferragamo Wing Tips, men’s size 10 ½, and some loafers…for an important business trip”.
Attempts to reach any of the 21 Assistant/Associate Athletic Directors were similarly uneventful, as they all were unavailable due to travel commitments.
Given PSU Intercollegiate Athletics projected operating profit of negative $16 million for the fiscal year ending in July 2016, and in accordance with Penn State ICA’s ongoing efforts to be the World Leader in fiscal responsibility, any of the non-athletic travel party (which may or may not exist) were responsible for procuring their own bellman service to load their luggage from their homes into the personal automobiles.
Personal automobiles – rather than chauffeured vehicles – were required to be used by all members of the administrative staff for travel to/from Harrisburg International Airport (fully reimbursed by the University, of course).
Rumors that hundreds of administrators and other non-athletic associates have been afforded luxury travel accommodations, five days of resort lodging, and unlimited food and beverage - all on the tab of Penn State ICA - are completely unfounded (which means, it may or may not be true, but no PSU spokesperson is authorized to comment).
In unrelated news: the media should be aware that from December 28th through January 2nd, any of the nineteen Vice-President or Vice-Provost members of Eric Barron’s Presidential Council can be reached at (904) 432-1467 (the concierge desk at the Omni Amelia Island….$279 per night).
Ms Barbour forwarded her best wishes to the members of the Penn State University Blue Band, who are travelling to Jacksonville aboard luxury motor coaches.
After taking up a collection among members of the PSU Official Travel Party (the existence of which can neither be confirmed or denied) Ms Barbour has pledged to cover the expenses of “Happy Meals for Everyone” as they make their way to Florida.
Ms Barbour herself contributed $500 to the fund….in the form of the Best Buy gift certificates she received upon the recent installation of the Samsung 78" Class Curved Screen LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV (suggested retail price $8,999.98) in her recently re-redecorated office.
________________________________________
Further media inquiries should be directed to:
Ms Helen Waite .
312 Old Main, University Park, Pennsylvania 16802 (814)-865-7517
Copyright: The Pennsylvania State University © 2015
Sorry. Don't let me get in the way of the BWI retards getting worked up about something we don't have an answer about.
Oh, we know the answer. The AD is trying to save money. Unfortunately, the belt tightening doesn't apply across the board.
You raise an interesting point. Why is it that the AD has to pay most of the NCAA fine, but not all of it? Why isn't it on the hook for the victims' settlements? Cost of the Freeh Report and other sundry expenses associated with the Sandusky scandal?
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, I'm not advocating that the AD pay all of these. Just curious about the logic that underpins which part of PSU pays what.
Am I really the only person who looks at the Title of this OP and wants to scream: that's what she said?
Why all the fuss about a B747? Remember they are taking the entire squad and not just the travel squad. No way they would fit on a B737.
Much more to it than that......can you do math?
The over-riding issue is what does PSU Administration spend the money on? An administration that is CONSTANTLY crying poor mouth and pleading for more and more and more donations from Penn Staters.
Kinda' busy work day for me.......but I will break it down for the "math averse" a little later today (If I get some time).
I thought this was about Linda Lovelace and Harry Reemes
Linda was going to post to this thread but she said she'd "had it up to here."
When the blue band plays the game and the football team entertains at halftime, they can fly and the team can bus.
You're a dipshit. The band always flew to bowl games. This is the first I've heard of the band busing to a bowl game.
PSU's administrators aren't playing. They're flying. The cheerleaders aren't playing. They're flying.
I've asked, but you didn't answer, so I'll ask again, What Bowls?? and when did you leave for the Bowl?? Could it be the BB decided to take the bus, and stay longer?? could it be the BB made other trade offs, like going to Ireland? Could it be that certain bowl games pay so much more, that of course the band flew? Maybe like the Rose or the Orange??
First, some answers to your "questions".....
1 - In addition to bussing to Jacksonville, the BB is making a very quick "in-and-out" trip to Jacksonville - just two overnights (IIRC), and then back onto the bus for the return trip IMMEDIATELY after the game. They have made similarly short trips before, but certainly never shorter.
2 - There were no "trade-offs" regarding other trips as opposed to the Bowl trip.
3 - The expenses payout for the Gator Bowl is $2 Million for PSU......more than enough to add in BB air travel - IF PSU ICA wanted to do that (I'll post a breakdown later).
Now, more importantly.....you are completely and utterly missing the point.
The point isn't whether the BB should travel via air, stay longer....or even go to the game at all.
The point isn't whether or not the BB should travel in the same manner as the football squad.
The POINT is:
Why does PSU Administration skimp on BB travel and accommodations - which could EASILY be accommodated via the $2 million expense check - and yet lavish luxury accommodations and perks (with regard to their "everyday" activities - not just a bowl trip) on a bunch of empty suits that have NOTHING to do with the game.
Empty suits that - in many cases - caused the financial troubles that currently ail the PSU ICA.....and folks who are already compensated like third world dictators?
THAT is the point!
Now....add in that those same empty-suit Scoundrels are the folks constantly panhandling the Alumni to contribute more - "for the kids" - while they gorge themselves like fat pigs siphoning off the slop from the trough....and now you are in the realm of the truly despicable.
You are so right ... this university has thrown away more than $100 million over the past few years, so this is how they exercise fiscal responsibility - making the BB take a bus.
P.S. I heard SB had her office redone twice because she didn't like the first remodel. Not sure if that is true or not.
so if the empty suits have no real purpose at the game, and are not there on business, will they be issued a 1099 for the trip??
Thanks for the answers though, UGA just told their kids they would meet up in Jacksonville.
Not sure, but it sounds like you think that is uncommon.....it's not, certainly not for a destination so close.
PSU has done it in the past as well, even for some "far off" sites. The players, generally, love it. They get XX dollars for travel (usually prevailing air fare rates) then they can carpool down on the cheap and pocket the cash for spending money.
More often than not though, especially for big games, the coaches want to make sure they have the entire squad herded together and can be assured they will all get there safe and sound....rather than worry about all the guys arriving on time and in one piece
