Absolutely shameless....

[stormingnorm]

What a pathetically shameless POS.

“The dog ate my homework”

LMAO (or cry?)

http://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article210680104.html


I guess you can just say anything - - - and the mouth-breathers (who appear to constitute the vast majority) will just swallow it up.
It might be interesting to see how many of the low-engagement nincompoops come out of the woodwork here....... but I don’t think I can bear to watch

 

[Art]

So why were hundreds of millions of dollars of projects for sports that will never earn a dime prioritized in the Master Plan ahead of Beaver Stadium? Dumshit!!

 

[LundyPSU]

As NLC donations likely will decrease....

 

[NittPicker]

A new Assistant/Associate AD will be hired to study the situation.

 

[PearlSUJam]

"Franklin said Penn State ranked 13th out of 14 Big Ten programs, ahead of only Rutgers, in facilities capital spending for football during an eight-year span prior to the coach's arrival."

But I thought we had a culture problem and football was prioritized over everything else?

 

[Nitwit]

As NLC donations likely will decrease....

Can’t see donations decreasing as long as the football team is performing as they are now with CJF at the helm. I would expect the fan base to be expanding and the number of donors growing as evidenced by the increase in season ticket sales. Also just because Beaver Stadium renovations are needed doesn’t mean that facilities in the non revenue sports don’t need upgraded. If you want these programs to be competitive, and we do, you have to spend there also. It’s not one vs the other, it’s all of the above. Or maybe you don’t care about women’s volleyball?

 

[rem524]

Not all that surprising. The Coaches Caravan is a fund-raising tour and this is the story that will get them some donations. You never see your town or state government pitch a tax increase to hire more administrators. They position the taxes to hire teachers, firefighters and police. At Penn State, you ask for money to support the football team.

 

[bison13]

A new Assistant/Associate AD will be hired to study the situation.

What will that put them up to 30? 40?

 

[Art]

Can’t see donations decreasing as long as the football team is performing as they are now with CJF at the helm. I would expect the fan base to be expanding and the number of donors growing as evidenced by the increase in season ticket sales. Also just because Beaver Stadium renovations are needed doesn’t mean that facilities in the non revenue sports don’t need upgraded. If you want these programs to be competitive, and we do, you have to spend there also. It’s not one vs the other, it’s all of the above. Or maybe you don’t care about women’s volleyball?

How's that working out for the baseball team?

 

[basic blues]

What a pathetically shameless POS.

“The dog ate my homework”

LMAO (or cry?)

http://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article210680104.html


I guess you can just say anything - - - and the mouth-breathers (who appear to constitute the vast majority) will just swallow it up.
It might be interesting to see how many of the low-engagement nincompoops come out of the woodwork here....... but I don’t think I can bear to watch

What exactly is your problem with this article? It is stating the facts, our facilities are behind many of our peers.

 

[sluggo72]

How's that working out for the baseball team?

Haven't they had to bring in volunteer umpires?

 

[LionDeNittany]

"Franklin said Penn State ranked 13th out of 14 Big Ten programs, ahead of only Rutgers, in facilities capital spending for football during an eight-year span prior to the coach's arrival."

But I thought we had a culture problem and football was prioritized over everything else?

That's an odd set of dates. The eight years prior to Franklin's arrival, but not before and not the years since Franklin arrived.

https://opp.psu.edu/lasch-building-lockerequipment-room-renovation

The Mildred and Louis Lasch Building originally opened in 2000.

 

[interrobang]

Barbour will send out a link for a goFundMe or sell an old lawnmower to raise the money. Nothing to worry about.

 

[Woodpecker]

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[LundyPSU]

Can’t see donations decreasing as long as the football team is performing as they are now with CJF at the helm. I would expect the fan base to be expanding and the number of donors growing as evidenced by the increase in season ticket sales. Also just because Beaver Stadium renovations are needed doesn’t mean that facilities in the non revenue sports don’t need upgraded. If you want these programs to be competitive, and we do, you have to spend there also. It’s not one vs the other, it’s all of the above. Or maybe you don’t care about women’s volleyball?

we will see how donations hold up now that they are not tax deductible for donors...

 

[MJG-90]

That's an odd set of dates. The eight years prior to Franklin's arrival, but not before and not the years since Franklin arrived.

Maybe I'm not following. Isn't the point that the eight years prior to Franklin's arrival, PSU barely spent any money on facilities? Since Franklin's arrival, they've been spending but are in catch up mode so need to accelerate the process?

 

[interrobang]

we will see how donations hold up now that they are not tax deductible for donors...

I doubt this will have much of an impact.

 

[rohrmd9]

How's that working out for the baseball team?

Or the softball team for that matter...both have nice new facilities (relatively new in the case of baseball I guess)

 

[Nitt1300]

What a pathetically shameless POS.

“The dog ate my homework”

LMAO (or cry?)

http://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article210680104.html


I guess you can just say anything - - - and the mouth-breathers (who appear to constitute the vast majority) will just swallow it up.
It might be interesting to see how many of the low-engagement nincompoops come out of the woodwork here....... but I don’t think I can bear to watch

So you are blaming Franklin for the ten years before he got here?

I'm sure that wasn't your intent, but that's kind of how this comes across.

Now I'm not personally interested in helping PSU join in an endless arms race for athletics when schools should all be spending less, not more, on this trivial pursuit- but neither CJF nor the AD are doing anything but their jobs here as far as I can see.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Maybe I'm not following. Isn't the point that the eight years prior to Franklin's arrival, PSU barely spent any money on facilities? Since Franklin's arrival, they've been spending but are in catch up mode so need to accelerate the process?

MY point is why eight years? Perhaps a MAJOR capital project was completed 8 years prior to Franklin arriving?

I don't know, but why 8 years? Do we have to spend the same amount ever year or are there years with high spending and then years of low spending.

It isn't as simplistic as it appears in this article.

LdN

 

[basic blues]

Call me a sucker if you want but it is a fact. Our soccer field does not even have locker rooms, the natatorium is basically falling down and cannot host major events. That is just the tip of the ice berg.

 

[RGWhirly]

I would actually like to see ICA reduce the number of sports however I know that is not going to happen. Football will get some of my money through my purchase of season tix other than that men's hockey gets all of my NLC $.

 

[ClarkstonMark]

Franklin? What?

It was not clear at all who you were criticizing in your OP. Maybe try to make it clearer in your post who you are upset with.

 

[Nitwit]

How's that working out for the baseball team?

That’s my point.

 

[denniskembala]

OMG = "Oh, My Gooch"!

 

[MJG-90]

MY point is why eight years? Perhaps a MAJOR capital project was completed 8 years prior to Franklin arriving?

I don't know, but why 8 years? Do we have to spend the same amount ever year or are there years with high spending and then years of low spending.

It isn't as simplistic as it appears in this article.

LdN

The last major renovation to Beaver Stadium was in 2001. Since then, the only thing I see changing is the scoreboards. I'm not sure what's so mysterious about putting a stake in the ground on the date CJF started the job and going back in time from then to make a point. Seems both simple and valid to me.

 

[PSUSignore]

"Franklin said Penn State ranked 13th out of 14 Big Ten programs, ahead of only Rutgers, in facilities capital spending for football during an eight-year span prior to the coach's arrival."

But I thought we had a culture problem and football was prioritized over everything else?

This is a stupid quote from Franklin. PSU obviously was faced with a massive outlier in terms of facing an unprecedented scandal and sanctions during several of those years. Spending like any peer football program while in the middle of the sanctions would have been idiotic. Of course our spending was lower, it had to be.

 

[LionDeNittany]

The last major renovation to Beaver Stadium was in 2001. Since then, the only thing I see changing is the scoreboards. I'm not sure what's so mysterious about putting a stake in the ground on the date CJF started the job and going back in time from then to make a point. Seems both simple and valid to me.

And since his arrival (you know when we were under sanctions) the spending has been on pace. Why eight years?

LdN

 

[MJG-90]

And since his arrival (you know when we were under sanctions) the spending has been on pace. Why eight years?

LdN

How else do you make a point? They picked a finite time period that made their point. Do you have another time period you would prefer they use?

 

[chrisrn1965]

we will see how donations hold up now that they are not tax deductible for donors...

The donations that are not tax deductible are those to the NLC required to obtain football tickets. You can still donate additional money that would be tax deductible. The new tax law may decrease donations to a range of organizations due to the increase in the standard deduction.

 

[tatum56]

"Franklin said Penn State ranked 13th out of 14 Big Ten programs, ahead of only Rutgers, in facilities capital spending for football during an eight-year span prior to the coach's arrival."

But I thought we had a culture problem and football was prioritized over everything else?

I thought PSU administration had a spending problem.

 

[ThePennsyOracle]

This is a stupid quote from Franklin. PSU obviously was faced with a massive outlier in terms of facing an unprecedented scandal and sanctions during several of those years. Spending like any peer football program while in the middle of the sanctions would have been idiotic. Of course our spending was lower, it had to be.

I think his overall point was that the previous AD never did much of anything to modernize the program....and he is correct.

 

[NittPicker]

The donations that are not tax deductible are those to the NLC required to obtain football tickets. You can still donate additional money that would be tax deductible. The new tax law may decrease donations to a range of organizations due to the increase in the standard deduction.

The clarify, NLC donations used to get benefits of any type (including tickets) are 80% deductible. Depending upon how charitable a person is it may not matter given the change in the tax code.

 

[Art]

That’s my point.

 

[uhlerlion]

How's that working out for the baseball team?

or the softball team? Im sure the Beard's are ecstatic about how it has turned out so far- TIC -

 

[Art]

or the softball team? Im sure the Beard's are ecstatic about how it has turned out so far- TIC -

Okay, so does anyone know what's happening with the Master Plan, or is this as closely guarded a secret as the onion dip budget?

 

[harbest]

What exactly is your problem with this article? It is stating the facts, our facilities are behind many of our peers.

This is a 2000's version of a cold war arms race. The party line is we are falling behind our adversaries and need cash from you the fans of the program hand over fist or we will fall behind in preparing our players to compete at a certain level. The actuality of it is the common fans who live paycheck to paycheck are being left in the dust and are going from making compromises to see their team play in person to not being able to afford it at all. The true fans are being squeezed out of the picture in favor of the ones with deep pockets who have a few thousand dollars lying around to throw at the university or the deeper pocketed corporate sponsors. We may yet see the day when dear old Beaver stadium becomes (fill in the corporate name) stadium. If you doubt me, look at how they have moved the ADA lot around to accommodate people with money. Someone figured it was better to bus the elderly & in firmed to the stadium instead of providing them parking next to the stadium.

 

[sluggo72]

Mississippi State new $3.6 mil locker room

 

[interrobang]

The true fans are being squeezed out of the picture in favor of the ones with deep pockets who have a few thousand dollars lying around to throw at the university or the deeper pocketed corporate sponsors.

Hyperbole much?

 

[sluggo72]

Lincoln Riley new office at OU

Not to be confused with the stand-alone Everest Indoor Practice Facility, the Switzer Center has its own covered field connected directly to the weight room.