Alan Vera passes away

[Psalm 1 guy]

Greco-Roman National Team member Alan Vera, 33, has passed away

USA Wrestling was devastated to receive information that one of its current Greco-Roman National Team members, Alan Vera of Guttenburg, N.J., 33, passed away last night. Vera suffered a sudden cardiac arrest while playing soccer this past summer and ha...

www.themat.com

 

[Little J]

Sad news. Way too young. Makes you wonder why at his age and athletic conditioning he would suffer a cardiac event.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

Sad news. Way too young. Makes you wonder why at his age and athletic conditioning he would suffer a cardiac event.

I know what my money is on.

"Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. "

Risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after the COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in the USA: a cohort study in claims databases - PMC

Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. We used active surveillance from large health-care databases to quantify and enable the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Mat Burn]

He could have had the same heart condition that I have. I didn't know I had a problem, well until I had a problem.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...c-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198

 

[Random4598375]

He could have had the same heart condition that I have. I didn't know I had a problem, well until I had a problem.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...c-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198

I have this. It's genetic, and they've identified the gene mutation that I have that caused it, so I've had it all my life. I've never had any symptoms and didn't find it until last year when I was 52 and went for a regular cardiology checkup, but I could have dropped dead at any point in the last 52 years.

 

[Mat Burn]

I have this. It's genetic, and they've identified the gene mutation that I have that caused it, so I've had it all my life. I've never had any symptoms and didn't find it until last year when I was 52 and went for a regular cardiology checkup, but I could have dropped dead at any point in the last 52 years.

Same story here got the mutation too. I want my daughter to get the genetic test, but it is darn expensive because of her insurance. As long as she gets an annual Echo cardiogram, she will be fine, they can see the condition with that even if you have no symptoms.

Both my father and his mother passed early (52) of the same issue.

 

[Random4598375]

Same story here got the mutation too. I want my daughter to get the genetic test, but it is darn expensive because of her insurance. As long as she gets an annual Echo cardiogram, she will be fine, they can see the condition with that even if you have no symptoms.

Both my father and his mother passed early (52) of the same issue.

I was referred to a specialist in HCM at Penn because my local cardiologist had never seen anyone with as much thickening as I have without having any symptoms at all, LOL. One of the things that they told me is that if my kids are genetically tested, they will have a problem getting life insurance in the future or will have to exclude cardiac arrest from their life insurance if they come up positive, so we're holding off for now until they are done with college and into their professional lives, and they will just have to get annual echoes. Both were normal this year.

My father passed away this summer at 84. He had lots of heart issues (which is why my wife pushed me to get a cardiology exam in the first place given that my age is advancing faster than I'd like to admit...), but this was not one of his issues. In discussing this with my family, I found that a cousin on my mom's side tested positive for the gene mutation but does not have HCM, but I guess that means the mutation is probably from my mom's side. My mom is 78 and she is perfectly healthy. None of her family to her knowledge has ever died from cardiac arrest. Her parents both lived full lives (my grandpa died in his 80s from Parkinsons, my grandma lived to 95).

 

[psumacw]

I know what my money is on.

"Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. "

Risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after the COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in the USA: a cohort study in claims databases - PMC

Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. We used active surveillance from large health-care databases to quantify and enable the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

looks like you'd have about 0.003% chance of being correct ("A total of 411 myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, events were observed among 15 148 369 people aged 18–64 years")

 

[Agoodnap]

I was referred to a specialist in HCM at Penn because my local cardiologist had never seen anyone with as much thickening as I have without having any symptoms at all, LOL. One of the things that they told me is that if my kids are genetically tested, they will have a problem getting life insurance in the future or will have to exclude cardiac arrest from their life insurance if they come up positive, so we're holding off for now until they are done with college and into their professional lives, and they will just have to get annual echoes. Both were normal this year.

My father passed away this summer at 84. He had lots of heart issues (which is why my wife pushed me to get a cardiology exam in the first place given that my age is advancing faster than I'd like to admit...), but this was not one of his issues. In discussing this with my family, I found that a cousin on my mom's side tested positive for the gene mutation but does not have HCM, but I guess that means the mutation is probably from my mom's side. My mom is 78 and she is perfectly healthy. None of her family to her knowledge has ever died from cardiac arrest. Her parents both lived full lives (my grandpa died in his 80s from Parkinsons, my grandma lived to 95).

You should look for a direct to the consumer lab for the testing, which would be confidential. Typically the high-end cost is <$2k.

 

[Pitchfork Rebel]

looks like you'd have about 0.003% chance of being correct ("A total of 411 myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, events were observed among 15 148 369 people aged 18–64 years")

In this case, we already have an extraordinarily rare occurrence. So your population isn't those observed to have the conditions "occurring 1–7 days post-vaccination," but individuals who've suffered SCD. I rather guess that anybody who died post injection didn't keep their appointment, either.

"The causes of SCD in athletes vary, with the estimated incidence of death between 1 in 40,000 to 1 in 80,000 persons"

"In athletes <35 years, inherited cardiac conditions such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and anomalous origin of a coronary artery are most common. "

Risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after the COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in the USA: a cohort study in claims databases - PMC

Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. We used active surveillance from large health-care databases to quantify and enable the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If you rule out the conditions above, then I raise my bet.

Of course I don't belong to the cult of mRNA experimental genomic therapy, so I'd wager accordingly.

 

[psumacw]

In this case, we already have an extraordinarily rare occurrence. So your population isn't those observed to have the conditions "occurring 1–7 days post-vaccination," but individuals who've suffered SCD. I rather guess that anybody who died post injection didn't keep their appointment, either.

"The causes of SCD in athletes vary, with the estimated incidence of death between 1 in 40,000 to 1 in 80,000 persons"

"In athletes <35 years, inherited cardiac conditions such as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and anomalous origin of a coronary artery are most common. "

Risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after the COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in the USA: a cohort study in claims databases - PMC

Several passive surveillance systems reported increased risks of myocarditis or pericarditis, or both, after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination, especially in young men. We used active surveillance from large health-care databases to quantify and enable the ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If you rule out the conditions above, then I raise my bet.

Of course I don't belong to the cult of mRNA experimental genomic therapy, so I'd wager accordingly.

you keep linking to the same 2 year old study that says "A head-to-head comparison of myocarditis and pericarditis risk for the mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2 vaccine brands did not indicate a statistically significant difference, but also could not rule out that a difference might exist. Studies with additional data sources are needed to further evaluate the risk."

either provide something more recent and definitive or take your speculation to a thread that isn't so tragic.


(**Moderator comment: While the events surrounding Mr Vera's passing are tragic and we are all sorry and send condolences to his family, we won't permit this thread or any others to spiral down the vaccine debate rabbit hole.)