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All joking aside, why did pitt football die?

Pitt football is dead. We only play 1 more time. You handily won last year. But yet there are 0 threads about Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio St, Maryland, or anyone else that you should be concerned about on your board. Pitt is the only school you guys want to talk about. Strange.


The same can be said about Pitt’s Board.

AND

The big difference is the Pitt Board’s % of posts about PSU is obviously MANY times greater than the % of posts here about Pitt.
 
Indiana and Ohio State beg to differ.


Indy and tOSU are both doing their best to suck as this year’s conference season has moved along.

And I’m surprised tOSU didn’t give up Men’s CBB after losing THREE TIMES IN ONE SEASON to PSU.
 
Weird thing about Pitt is the few players they sent to the league are HOF caliber: Larry Fitz, Shady, Revis, and Donald.
 
The only time I was in Pittsburgh was when I drove through it in 1992. Do they have room on their campus to build a 45,000 seat stadium? I think that would be a good start.

That’s what Temple is trying to do.
 
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As someone else mentioned, the decline of the WPIAL has worked against them in the longer-term.

In the shorter-term, they've made some poor tactical choices. Tearing down Pitt Stadium was tactical error #1. A number of their coaching hires (Paul Hackett, Major Harris version 2.0, Walt) were significant tactical errors as well.

Honestly, Pitt football today is just an ACC-version of the Cincinnati Bearcats. Except UC actually still plays in their classic on-campus stadium.

A great what if --- what if Pitt was invited to the B1G instead of Michigan State in the early 1950s. It did almost happen. OSU was the big opposition to Pitt.

Major Harris played QB for WVU sir.

Perhaps you meant Walt Harris??
 
There are 0 threads on the 1st Page of the Pitt message board directly related to PSU. The closest thread deals with LaMont Wade. There are 3 different threads directly related to Pitt on the first page of your board. #Facts

There are zero threads on the first page of this board that are in your words "directly related to Pitt".
  • There is a thread about Alabama scheduling a weak OOC opponent.
  • There is a thread making fun of a local fan base that's well known for hating PSU more than they like their own team.
  • There is a thread that literally refers to joking in the title.

I don't know why you misunderstand... any thread making fun of Pitt is not about Pitt... it's about us having fun at their expense. If you don't like being made fun of, stop being a national joke.
 
Weird thing about Pitt is the few players they sent to the league are HOF caliber: Larry Fitz, Shady, Revis, and Donald.

While I think most would agree that the HOF is not selective enough in any sport, and is essentially the hall of very good. The weird thing about having an NFL HOF worthy career is that it in no way changes how mediocre Pitt was when that player was there. Does Pitt have a couple, sure... but it's completely irrelevant to Pitt football. As to how they get these kids:

Sometimes they take on a kid that is highly talented but has some baggage, so other schools pass.
Sometimes they get lucky with a local kid.
Sometimes a player who accomplished nothing while at Pitt, and arrived in the NFL fresh due to their pathetically weak conference, turns out to be a good player.

It's really just part of the cosmic joke. Make just a few players great in the NFL, while Pitt is stuck in misery.

I don't know why you list Larry Fitz, the pride of the university of Phoenix:

larry-fitz_new-300x165.jpg
 
Pitt isn’t dead, what they are now is pretty much their standard since WW2.

The had a really good run for 10-12 years in the 70’s and 80’s. The had that booster club doing got knows what and a glut of really good players locally. It was right place right time for a while, but they have simply reverted back to their historical mean in the modern era.
 
Pitt isn’t dead, what they are now is pretty much their standard since WW2.

The had a really good run for 10-12 years in the 70’s and 80’s. The had that booster club doing got knows what and a glut of really good players locally. It was right place right time for a while, but they have simply reverted back to their historical mean in the modern era.


Really it's just 6 seasons, from 1976-1981.
 
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While I think most would agree that the HOF is not selective enough in any sport, and is essentially the hall of very good. The weird thing about having an NFL HOF worthy career is that it in no way changes how mediocre Pitt was when that player was there. Does Pitt have a couple, sure... but it's completely irrelevant to Pitt football. As to how they get these kids:

Sometimes they take on a kid that is highly talented but has some baggage, so other schools pass.
Sometimes they get lucky with a local kid.
Sometimes a player who accomplished nothing while at Pitt, and arrived in the NFL fresh due to their pathetically weak conference, turns out to be a good player.

It's really just part of the cosmic joke. Make just a few players great in the NFL, while Pitt is stuck in misery.

I don't know why you list Larry Fitz, the pride of the university of Phoenix:

larry-fitz_new-300x165.jpg
He would have made a great LB’er.
 
He would have made a great LB’er.
Would care to explain these posts of yours to everyone here.

DiehardPanther All American
Are you still butthurt that they haven’t put back the statue of that Pedophile Enabler Joe Paterno?
61 DiehardPanther, Jan 6, 2019


DiehardPanther All American
Or hire officials that played at PS like Paterno did. The Guman Crew.
2 DiehardPanther, Oct 13, 2018


DiehardPanther All American
There is nothing that could occur at PS that would stop the machine. Franklin could go on a murder spree, sanctions for cheating, players charged with gang rape, etc. Nothing matters to Nits, but winning football games. If need be, PS would fire Franklin and pay the next guy 10 million.
9 DiehardPanther, Sep 17, 2017


DiehardPanther All American
I have stated numerous times that Pitt is an 8-5 type program with a good coach. I am not sure what is so complicated about that. I don’t even watch PS since the Rape Scandal. I turned my back on them just like they did those children. I am not sure how your rant on them factors into this topic.
77 DiehardPanther, Oct 19, 2017


DiehardPanther All American
The sickening part is how the media is building them up again after what transpired. It is a football before ANYTHING culture even when it comes to covering up a football coach who raped children. They would do the same exact thing if it were to happen again. Sad but true. I will be watching Game 7, USC vs ND, and any other good games. I turn my back on them just like they did those rape victims.
5 DiehardPanther, Oct 21, 2017
 
I wonder how much money Diehard has given to such a worthy cause. I wonder how much of his time he has lent to the victims.

I think we all know the answer to that. He has no vitriolic posts about MSU, or any other institution.

You, Diehard, are a perfect example of why we all despise Pitt so much. If you are a representative of that fine school, then it is nothing but a slum. What the hell was your mother thinking, anyhow?
 
Diehardpanther can eat shit and die, and so can all his friends and family that think the same way. I bet the cowardly piece of shit wouldn't say that stuff to our faces.
 
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Would care to explain these posts of yours to everyone here.

DiehardPanther All American
Are you still butthurt that they haven’t put back the statue of that Pedophile Enabler Joe Paterno?
61 DiehardPanther, Jan 6, 2019


DiehardPanther All American
Or hire officials that played at PS like Paterno did. The Guman Crew.
2 DiehardPanther, Oct 13, 2018


DiehardPanther All American
There is nothing that could occur at PS that would stop the machine. Franklin could go on a murder spree, sanctions for cheating, players charged with gang rape, etc. Nothing matters to Nits, but winning football games. If need be, PS would fire Franklin and pay the next guy 10 million.
9 DiehardPanther, Sep 17, 2017


DiehardPanther All American
I have stated numerous times that Pitt is an 8-5 type program with a good coach. I am not sure what is so complicated about that. I don’t even watch PS since the Rape Scandal. I turned my back on them just like they did those children. I am not sure how your rant on them factors into this topic.
77 DiehardPanther, Oct 19, 2017


DiehardPanther All American
The sickening part is how the media is building them up again after what transpired. It is a football before ANYTHING culture even when it comes to covering up a football coach who raped children. They would do the same exact thing if it were to happen again. Sad but true. I will be watching Game 7, USC vs ND, and any other good games. I turn my back on them just like they did those rape victims.
5 DiehardPanther, Oct 21, 2017
In all honesty, I would not support Pitt football if something similar happened at Pitt. I was a devout Catholic who left the Catholic Church because of what happened.

The Guman Crew comment is accurate.

The one comment is recent, but the other stuff was from 2017. I will do my best to turn over a new leaf.
 
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In all honesty, I would not support Pitt football if something similar happened at Pitt. I was a devout Catholic who left the Catholic Church because of what happened.

The Guman Crew comment is accurate.

The one comment is recent, but the other stuff was from 2017. I will do my best to turn over a new leaf.

Well considering nothing happened at PSU, you should stop supporting Pitt now.
 
Really it's just 6 seasons, from 1976-1981.

There's actually more history than that. They were one of the dominant programs in the first half of last century, especially the 1940s. Obviously that is not where they are anymore but they are still a P5 program.
 
Would care to explain these posts of yours to everyone here.

DiehardPanther All American
Are you still butthurt that they haven’t put back the statue of that Pedophile Enabler Joe Paterno?
61 DiehardPanther, Jan 6, 2019


DiehardPanther All American
Or hire officials that played at PS like Paterno did. The Guman Crew.
2 DiehardPanther, Oct 13, 2018


DiehardPanther All American
There is nothing that could occur at PS that would stop the machine. Franklin could go on a murder spree, sanctions for cheating, players charged with gang rape, etc. Nothing matters to Nits, but winning football games. If need be, PS would fire Franklin and pay the next guy 10 million.
9 DiehardPanther, Sep 17, 2017


DhP =slapnuts mbe34.

DiehardPanther All American
I have stated numerous times that Pitt is an 8-5 type program with a good coach. I am not sure what is so complicated about that. I don’t even watch PS since the Rape Scandal. I turned my back on them just like they did those children. I am not sure how your rant on them factors into this topic.
77 DiehardPanther, Oct 19, 2017


DiehardPanther All American
The sickening part is how the media is building them up again after what transpired. It is a football before ANYTHING culture even when it comes to covering up a football coach who raped children. They would do the same exact thing if it were to happen again. Sad but true. I will be watching Game 7, USC vs ND, and any other good games. I turn my back on them just like they did those rape victims.
5 DiehardPanther, Oct 21, 2017





Slapnuts mbe34 has new nic.
 
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IMHO, when they ore down the old stadium and signed up to play at Heinz it was strike one. At the core of any college team, is the student section. I watch the student section as much as I watch the team at home games.

The next was when they fired Wanny. Here is a Pitt legend who was fired by a dufus AD and then he hired a dufus coach. That led to Phil Bennett, Todd Graham, Keith Patterson, Paul Chryst, Joe Rudolf and now the Duzzer.

I am not sure if Beenett, patterson or Rudolph even coached one game. Of those, the longest tenur is Chryst, 3 years, who left for Wisconsin.

Pitt FB wasn't exactly great before and during Wanny. They were aspiring to be average and talking about building fences around the WPIAL...which was as porous as the Southern border.
 
Pitt FB wasn't exactly great before and during Wanny. They were aspiring to be average and talking about building fences around the WPIAL...which was as porous as the Southern border.
Agree...but that is true of Pitt football since the '70s. They've really not been competitive, on the national stage, since Wanny.

They played in the Fiesta Bowl in 2004 versus Utah (loosing 35-7). Lost to NC St in the Tangerine in 2001. Then the Fiesta in 1983 versus tOSU losing 28-23. There you have a pretty good run in the Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar, Gator and Fiesta again. These are the Walt Harris, Paul Hacket, Mike Gottfried years.
 
I can tell you all why Pitt football died, when is a debatable issue. During the Steve Pederson era, he simply stopped caring about football. Pitt prioritized basketball and for a long time, it worked. They tore down Pitt Stadium, built the Pete and relegated football to a stadium that had 30,000 too many seats. But, let’s not act like Pitt was good in the late 80’s and 90’s, they weren’t.

Today, Pitt is stuck in mediocrity. And to make matters worse, a large swath of the small fan base supports this goon Narduzzi. The athletic department receives nearly no financial support in donations, no one except die hards go to football games, and basketball is on the rebound, but that arena is kinda empty too. Until Pitt makes a serious financial commitment to football and hires a good coach who can recruit, Pitt is stuck. I see it getting way worse before getting better. Or, Narduzzi continues to average 6-7 occasionally 8 wins and gets another extension. I don’t know which option is worse.
 
I think it's pretty "Ironic" that you're over here trolling a Penn State football board.

To be fair, there would be a number of PSU guys in the lair if they didn't ban anyone that makes mild suggestions that Pitt isn't 2 players away from greatness with a roster full 2* and low 3-star players.
 
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Tulane football died when they went to the Superdome> I guess you could say they have been pretty much dead for most years before that. However, they are playing in a new stadium on campus. I believe @ 40k capacity.
 
Their game-day football experience is similar to PSU’s game-day basketball experience. They play in a facility that is very seldom even close to half-full.

Another way to think about it: think about the PSU’s football players’ ride to the stadium on game days.....then think about Pitt’s football players’ ride to the stadium on game days.

There simply is no great reason in the world to be excited to play football at Pitt if you have ANY other opportunity to play elsewhere unless you played high school football in the Pittsburgh area and wanted to stay home to be close to friends and family.
 
Their game-day football experience is similar to PSU’s game-day basketball experience. They play in a facility that is very seldom even close to half-full.

Another way to think about it: think about the PSU’s football players’ ride to the stadium on game days.....then think about Pitt’s football players’ ride to the stadium on game days.

There simply is no great reason in the world to be excited to play football at Pitt if you have ANY other opportunity to play elsewhere unless you played high school football in the Pittsburgh area and wanted to stay home to be close to friends and family.

It’s hard to argue with any of this. Somehow, they’ve recruited Florida really well. But, look at how many WPIAL kids are making an impact on this roster. Hamlin is really the only one, and he’s marginal, at best.
 
It’s hard to argue with any of this. Somehow, they’ve recruited Florida really well. But, look at how many WPIAL kids are making an impact on this roster. Hamlin is really the only one, and he’s marginal, at best.
They haven’t recruited Florida well talent wise just in volume. In Florida they just pick up a lot of scraps that no one else really wanted.
 
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