Anyone not wanting a Pitt vs Penn State
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Not to mention the old days of death threats to Coach’s wife with the need of FBI investigation. And this was before Sandusky revelations.
Add a meaningful trophy into the game - "The Annual Keystone Key Chain Bowl". Whooooaaa, Nellie! Winner gets a, well, a keychain with the score printed on it. Brilliant!
When are our "17-10" keychains coming in? I bet the players and coaches cannot wait for them!
Or is Pitt ordering them as moral victory keepsakes? Both teams? Those keychain makers are striking gold this year!
(Sorry, Sammy.... not a shot at you personally. But as so many others see it clearly - why help them out? We are their only sellout unless ND comes to town. They need to go cozy up to WVa. We're busy with bigger P5 challenges).
If I had to offer an educated guess, Pitt "hates" because it has an inferiority complex. That hate is manifested in some rather obnoxious, unsportsmanlike behavior, like a child throwing a temper-tantrum.
Penn State people "hate" obnoxious behavior.
These sorts of "hate" are not a basis for what some want to call a rivalry. It is something else, something toxic. We know to avoid what is toxic, but you are free to go off and drink it. Alone.
I don't agree with that. It wasn't that long ago that VA Tech was ranked top 10-15 consistently and even though they are not still at that level, it's still a solid program.
Outside of a couple good years, Pitt hasn't been relevant since the 80's and is stuck in a cycle of mediocre to bad teams.
Really don't know how the programs compare now, but unless by historically you mean pre-WWII history, then that's just nuts. Outside of a 7 or 8 year stretch in the late 70s/early 80s, Pitt has been the picture of mediocrity for the past 80 years. Prior to their recent slide, Va Tech had a high level of consistency as a program over the course of a couple of decades that Pitt could only dream about. Don't know what your agenda is but puffing up Pitt to being bigger than they are seems like a losing strategy.
It would appear he has an agenda. Unfortunately the facts do not support it. As I posted earlier, historically, and right now (last 25 years) Tech is better than Pitt.
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Aren't you the idiot that repeatedly tries to convince everyone that Houston should be on the B1G? This idea actually surpasses that for idiocy.
I agree, but then you go and threaten people you don't even know. You're just as bad. Look at your own behavior here before calling out others.
A fair point. Although I was using hyperbole to attack not you, but your behavior, which I considered boorish. Still, I should have given you the benefit of the doubt. I acted badly and for that I apologize.
I wasn't expecting that. Apology accepted and we move on. We are.
All those teams, except Iowa, play in conferences with 8 conference games. That leaves them 4 nonconf games. It is math. PSU can only have 1 home and home series at any time in order to preserve 7 home games. You keep referencing irrelevant things to try and support your argument. If PSU only has a chance for 1 home and home, why waste it perpetually on a team that we just beat and dropped in the polls? Why not schedule Auburn, WVU, VaTech and who knows who else in the future instead, or have the flex to at least try and upgrade the schedule? Bring Pitt back on occasionally (or not), but locking into Pitt as the only P5 nonconf game is ridiculous.
Regarding Colorado, even with Colorado State on the schedule they still play home-and-homes with other OOC schools. The downside is they only have six home games in alternating years. Utah also plays only six home games on occasion but it's not as frequent as Colorado. Since the Penn State financial model is built around seven home games, a permanent OOC opponent will never happen unless the Big Ten returns to an eight game conference schedule.
thats right... it is math. PSU will never have less than 7 home games. Most P5 teams are the same. So with only 1 shot at a H&H opponent at any time, PSU has voted for variety, (arguably) program prestige, different geographies, or just to be done with the hate (and this ongoing discussion) vs Pitt. And the same talking heads who claim we should play Pitt every year just dropped us a spot in the polls for beating them. Ba-bye.
To clarify, the PAC also plays a nine game conference schedule therefore Utah and Colorado are examples of what PSU would be sacrificing with an annual game against Pitt AND another OOC home-and-home. So it's either that or follow the Iowa model and never play a high profile OOC game unless it's at a neutral site which I personally think sucks for a college game unless it's in a bowl.
But those talking heads don’t penalize other teams in rivalry games...so it shows how little they think of Pitt.
Their fans, coaches (many over the years), and surprisingly, even their star players over the years (Dorsett and Ditka come to mind) are almost always insufferable douchebags.
I am soooooo tired of the lame Pitt bullshit.
But the final straw came Saturday when they kicked a FG down 7 with <5 minutes to play and their f#cking coach said it was a 2 score game. It is bad for the culture of Penn State to be routinely exposed to a team and a coach that stupid. It is bad for the morale of our entire University. We need to shut the branch campuses in and around Pgh.
The only thing that could make Barron a worse Prez is if he were a Yinzer. I would take an Amish guy from Lancaster over a Yinzer Eric Barron.
The upside is that it is a fun rivalry (or annual beatdown if you prefer). I look at it as if you lose, then big whoop - it's college football man, not treating some kid with cancer.
Well, I guess I'm just another "idiot" who doesn't want to see us play Pitt. I mean, sure, schedule them for a 2 game series every 15-20 years, I'm fine with that. But if we only have 3 OOC games and are (understandably) committed to 7 home game each year, then it would be beyond boring to play Pitt every season over having a variety of Power 5 teams.
Heck, even if the Big Ten went down to 8 conference games, I'd rather see a rotation of eastern teams (Pitt, Syracuse, BC, WVU, etc) in one slot and a "national" game (top teams like Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, etc.) in another slot over just playing Pitt every year. YMMV.
Heck, even if the Big Ten went down to 8 conference games, I'd rather see a rotation of eastern teams (Pitt, Syracuse, BC, WVU, etc) in one slot and a "national" game (top teams like Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, etc.) in another slot over just playing Pitt every year. YMMV.
1. Pittsburgh was a steel town.
2. Man walked on the moon in the last decade.
3. The Pirates won a World Series.
4. Pete Rose was a beloved Phillies 1st baseman.
5. Regular leaded gasoline was used in cars.
6. Some young quarterback from The banks of the Monongahela River was MVP of the Super Bowl
7. California was a Republican stronghold.
8. Disco was considered kick-ass
9. You could get 10% (or more) on a regular savings account or CD
10. Pitt and Penn State WAS a good rivalry.
Other than #2, with very high probability we will never see any of these ever again.
If it’s not obvious, the national and some local (you Mr. Jones) media despise Penn State for whatever reason and has, depending on your point of view since 1969 or 1994 or 2011. If this were considered a rivalry worth anything Penn State would not drop in the polls after a win, no matter how ugly or the circumstances for the win. Ever, the end. Would Alabama drop after beating rival Auburn 10-9 or 17-10? Would Ohio State drop after beating rival Michigan 42-39 or 17-10? Hell, even Washington if it beat rival Washington State 56-54 or 17-10? Hell no, that’s why this game should be taken out back and shot. It needs to be done forever. No life support, no resurrection ever. The End.
2. Man walked on the moon in the last decade.
3. The Pirates won a World Series.
4. Pete Rose was a beloved Phillies 1st baseman.
5. Regular leaded gasoline was used in cars.
6. Some young quarterback from The banks of the Monongahela River was MVP of the Super Bowl
7. California was a Republican stronghold.
8. Disco was considered kick-ass
9. You could get 10% (or more) on a regular savings account or CD
10. Pitt and Penn State WAS a good rivalry.
Other than #2, with very high probability we will never see any of these ever again.
If it’s not obvious, the national and some local (you Mr. Jones) media despise Penn State for whatever reason and has, depending on your point of view since 1969 or 1994 or 2011. If this were considered a rivalry worth anything Penn State would not drop in the polls after a win, no matter how ugly or the circumstances for the win. Ever, the end. Would Alabama drop after beating rival Auburn 10-9 or 17-10? Would Ohio State drop after beating rival Michigan 42-39 or 17-10? Hell, even Washington if it beat rival Washington State 56-54 or 17-10? Hell no, that’s why this game should be taken out back and shot. It needs to be done forever. No life support, no resurrection ever. The End.
Except next year, PSU fans won’t be buying season tickets to Idaho or Buffalo as they would Pitt.
It's not Pitt/PSU that is the problem. It's the CFB scheduling system. Force all P5 teams to play 11 P5 games...and then PSU can have 9 Big Ten games, Pitt, and another marquee OOC game every year.
Or, i personally would like Pitt for 2 years, then WVU for 2 years, then Syracuse for 2 years...as long as there is ANOTHER OOC game that is bigger (like Auburn, Alabama, Texas, Clemson, etc.)
Or, i personally would like Pitt for 2 years, then WVU for 2 years, then Syracuse for 2 years...as long as there is ANOTHER OOC game that is bigger (like Auburn, Alabama, Texas, Clemson, etc.)
Simple question:
What does Pitt bring to the table?
I have yet to hear an answer that is sufficient enough to justify scheduling Pitt at any point in the foreseeable future.
What does Pitt bring to the table?
I have yet to hear an answer that is sufficient enough to justify scheduling Pitt at any point in the foreseeable future.
[QUOTE="africamurphy, post: 4325359, member: 94964"]It's not Pitt/PSU that is the problem. It's the CFB scheduling system. Force all P5 teams to play 11 P5 games...and then PSU can have 9 Big Ten games, Pitt, and another marquee OOC game every year.
Or, i personally would like Pitt for 2 years, then WVU for 2 years, then Syracuse for 2 years...as long as there is ANOTHER OOC game that is bigger (like Auburn, Alabama, Texas, Clemson, etc.)[/QUOTE]
That's never happening. Whois going to do the forcing?
Or, i personally would like Pitt for 2 years, then WVU for 2 years, then Syracuse for 2 years...as long as there is ANOTHER OOC game that is bigger (like Auburn, Alabama, Texas, Clemson, etc.)[/QUOTE]
That's never happening. Whois going to do the forcing?
That's never happening. Whois going to do the forcing?[/QUOTE]
This might be the best solution that I have read so far. I like Pitt, WV, BC, Syracuse as the rotating mid-tier opponent.
For some reason folks don't like the Pitt rivalry, but without them, this year's OOC schedule would have been even more of a cluster than it already was. Point blank, it was a disaster.
Side note...If I were the B10, I would schedule 8 conference games just like the SEC. I am not sure why the SEC gets a pass on the 8 game conference schedule, but as they say, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Exactly. I agree 100%. Pitt should also agree to play PSU in Basketball every year. Unfortunately, Pitt lets their pride get in the way. So be it.
This might be the best solution that I have read so far. I like Pitt, WV, BC, Syracuse as the rotating mid-tier opponent.
For some reason folks don't like the Pitt rivalry, but without them, this year's OOC schedule would have been even more of a cluster than it already was. Point blank, it was a disaster.
Side note...If I were the B10, I would schedule 8 conference games just like the SEC. I am not sure why the SEC gets a pass on the 8 game conference schedule, but as they say, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.[/QUOTE]
What pass? The Big Ten is the exception with its nine conference games. Why do they do that? Simple, for the TV money.
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The snappy repartee that we've come to expect from you. If we don't like being called an idiot don't starf by calling everyone who disagrees with you one. Shouldn't you be on the OSU or Nebraska boards trying to convince them that Houston is a good fit for the B1G as opposed to trolling here.
Since you updated your message I'll update mine. Are you really blaming the lack of an annual game between Penn State and Pitt as the primary reason for people moving out of Pennsylvania? Exactly where are you getting this data or simply pulling it out of your butt because you're incapable of engaging anyone with facts? What community college did you flunk out of?
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Did I call you an idiot personally? There is the difference between my post and yours
Shut up sammy. You have decisively proven what an idiot you are already in this thread. No need to pile on yourself. And yeah I called you an idiot personally.
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