Apke runs a 4.35 40....4.34 OFFICIAL TIME

[bsmith51]

Barkley and Sanders absolutely did not split reps in the Fiesta Bowl. Also, check out Sanders production in the Fiesta Bowl or lack thereof. Every team focused on Barkley not Trace. Hence against Michigan we had Barkley take the direct snap to confuse Michigan and have them not key on him.

Evaluate what is on film. Barkley was the focus of our offense. We'll see how Trace and Sanders do without him and Gesicki

Responding to you is like talking to a 3 year old. Barkley and Sanders alternated drives in the first half. Overall, Barkley was in for a little over 60% of the offensive snaps. That was much less than normal. I recall our offense looking pretty good the whole game. I also recall Sanders scoring in Q1.

And you have no idea what you are looking at on film. Yes, Barkley got a lot of attention. But every team accounted for Trace in the run game. The notion that they ignored Trace and our other weapons and focused solely on Barkley is simply not true. Iowa, for example, played back the whole game and effectively dared us to give it to Barkley in the run and pass game. That is why he had so many touches that game. Go back and watch the film. Better yet, don’t. You don’t know enough about the game to understand what you are looking at.

 

[AWS1022]

That's awesome. I want more. Like the Steelers were disappointing this season and the Pens were disappointing (very much so) between the Cup runs. Not he Pens can make a first round exit this year and I'm content--can't win every year but did we even have a quality win last year prior to the Fiesta Bowl? Northwestern was our best win but most here don"t even think Thorson is good s

In college football with only 12 games, every win is a quality win. And since maybe one P5 team in a year goes undefeated, 11 wins is pretty much a ceiling for every team, so I’ll take 10 wins a year.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

In college football with only 12 games, every win is a quality win. And since maybe one P5 team in a year goes undefeated, 11 wins is pretty much a ceiling for every team, so I’ll take 10 wins a year.

No, not every win a quality win. I'll take 10 wins...I'd like to beat someone with a pulse while doing so in about 3-4 of those games. And, if we play a schedule like last year you better win 11 like Bama did

 

[AWS1022]

No, not every win a quality win. I'll take 10 wins...I'd like to beat someone with a pulse while doing so in about 3-4 of those games. And, if we play a schedule like last year you better win 11 like Bama did

Yeah, keeping riding that poor schedule train. We play in the best division in college football yet have a weak schedule...how does that work? You will never think our schedule is difficult because that gives you a reason to slam Penn State’s results if they are good. You’re so inconsistent, winning a crap Conference playing no one should get a team in the playoffs but finishing 10-2 in the best division in college football is bad.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Responding to you is like talking to a 3 year old. Barkley and Sanders alternated drives in the first half. Overall, Barkley was in for a little over 60% of the offensive snaps. That was much less then normal. I recall our offense looking pretty good the whole game. I also recall Sanders scoring in Q1.

And you have no idea what you are looking at on film. Yes, Barkley got a lot of attention. But every team accounted for Trace in the run game. The notion that they ignored Trace and our other weapons and focused solely on Barkley is simply not true. Iowa, for example, played back the whole game and effectively dared us to give it to Barkley in the run and pass game. That is why he had so many touches that game. Go back and watch the film. Better yet, don’t. You don’t know enough about the game to understand what you are looking at.

Please rewatch the film....please.
Barkley had 18 carries in the Fiesta Bowl while Sanders had 6. Barkley had 7 catches...Sanders had 1. 25 touches, not including kickoffs, to 7. We fed the back that is infinitely. That's awesome that Sanders scored a TD....almost makes up for 19 yards on those 7 touches compared to 175 for Barkley.
Yep, Barkley or Sanders in the game...exact same offense.
I love you referencing the Iowa game because everything after that moment proves my point. Defenses adapted and forced Trace to beat them...which, to his credit, he did more often than not...until we played good teams prior to the Fiesta Bowl

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Yeah, keeping riding that poor schedule train. We play in the best division in college football yet have a weak schedule...how does that work? You will never think our schedule is difficult because that gives you a reason to slam Penn State’s results if they are good. You’re so inconsistent, winning a crap Conference playing no one should get a team in the playoffs but finishing 10-2 in the best division in college football is bad.

Does Ohio State play in the best division in football and still schedule Oklahoma, or did I imagine that?
I resect the NOrthwestern win, Iowa on the road is solid....after that it was a bad Michigan game.
Ummm...winning a conference should get you in as it would in any sport not FBS. With a real playoff we're likely the last team in last year or first team out....unforuntatly we have a 4 team playoff. With Saquon as a junior you better win 11+ given the schedule and the fact we blew the Ohio State game and should beat MSU...split those and I have no complaints

 

[bsmith51]

Please rewatch the film....please.
Barkley had 18 carries in the Fiesta Bowl while Sanders had 6. Barkley had 7 catches...Sanders had 1. 25 touches, not including kickoffs, to 7. We fed the back that is infinitely. That's awesome that Sanders scored a TD....almost makes up for 19 yards on those 7 touches compared to 175 for Barkley.
Yep, Barkley or Sanders in the game...exact same offense.
I love you referencing the Iowa game because everything after that moment proves my point. Defenses adapted and forced Trace to beat them...which, to his credit, he did more often than not...until we played good teams prior to the Fiesta Bowl

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. I didn’t compare touches or overall impact. I was talking about snap count. Barkley played much less then he normally did. He and Sanders alternated drives for half the game. Our offense moved the ball against a top ranked defense regardless of who was in at RB. Losing Barkley sucks. He is a generational talent. But there was much more to our offense than Barkley.

 

[AWS1022]

Does Ohio State play in the best division in football and still schedule Oklahoma, or did I imagine that?
I resect the NOrthwestern win, Iowa on the road is solid....after that it was a bad Michigan game.
Ummm...winning a conference should get you in as it would in any sport not FBS. With a real playoff we're likely the last team in last year or first team out....unforuntatly we have a 4 team playoff. With Saquon as a junior you better win 11+ given the schedule and the fact we blew the Ohio State game and should beat MSU...split those and I have no complaints

I just looked at three different rankings for SOS and we were #5, #11 and #15....guess it wasn’t too easy of a schedule. But keep saying it, you might actually believe it eventually.

 

[AWS1022]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. I didn’t compare touches or overall impact. I was talking about snap count. Barkley played much less then he normally did. He and Sanders alternated drives for half the game. Our offense moved the ball against a top ranked defense regardless of who was in at RB. Losing Barkley sucks. He is a generational talent. But there was much more to our offense than Barkley.

You know who else besides 78 says we won’t be any good next year because we lose Barkley? Pitt fans...oh wait, hmmm.

 

[bsmith51]

You know who else besides 78 says we won’t be any good next year because we lose Barkley? Pitt fans...oh wait, hmmm.

I am convinced that 78 is really MK.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. I didn’t compare touches or overall impact. I was talking about snap count. Barkley played much less then he normally did. He and Sanders alternated drives for half the game. Our offense moved the ball against a top ranked defense regardless of who was in at RB. Losing Barkley sucks. He is a generational talent. But there was much more to our offense than Barkley.

Right--regardless of the snap count we don't try to get the ball to Sanders when Barkley is in the game we try to feed him the ball for obvious reasons. Our offense was infinitely better with Sanders standing on the sideline as one should expect and understand. There is more to our offense. Gesicki was huge. Trace was the best performing QB in the Big Ten (Thorson's the most talented but Trace was second). Juwan Johnson is a stud. The line improved as the year went on. Losing Gesicki, Hamilton and Saquon is big though. I'm not sorry I'm the only one willing to acknowledge that. I love how because I think we win 8 or 9 next year I think we suck...it's just laughable. It isn't close last year. Our offense was infinitely better with Saquon in the game hence the carry split. Even Franklin couldn't help himself in the Fiesta Bowl. There's a reason Franklin agreed with the coach that said he'd punch himself fin the nuts repeatedly to have Barkley. Franklin would love him for another year because he, like any sane person, knows we're better with him

 

[78SweetRevenge]

You know who else besides 78 says we won’t be any good next year because we lose Barkley? Pitt fans...oh wait, hmmm.

Didn't Pitt fans say he was going to be a bust in the NFL?
Again, how is 8 or 9 wins "not any good". I didn't say we'd lose to Pitt. I love how 9-3 is now looked at as 4-8

 

[BobPSU92]

You know who else besides 78 says we won’t be any good next year because we lose Barkley? Pitt fans...oh wait, hmmm.

78freebeverage.

 

[AWS1022]

Didn't Pitt fans say he was going to be a bust in the NFL?
Again, how is 8 or 9 wins "not any good". I didn't say we'd lose to Pitt. I love how 9-3 is now looked at as 4-8

But you will be the first one on here blasting us for a 9 win season because our schedule wasn’t any good...we know your game.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

But you will be the first one on here blasting us for a 9 win season because our schedule wasn’t any good...we know your game.

Why don't you actually save this thread and we'll see what I do if that happens

 

[phillybillyreprise]

 

[bsmith51]

Why don't you actually save this thread and we'll see what I do if that happens

I will tell you what you will do. Once proven wrong, you won’t own up to it. Rather, you will shift your argument in a different direction and go on some nonsensical tangent. That is your argument pattern. Your tactics are tiresome and child like. I am so tired of you hijacking threads with your senseless babble. I have little doubt that you are MK under a different screen name.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

I will tell you what you will do. Once proven wrong, you won’t own up to it. Rather, you will shift your argument in a different direction and go on some nonsensical tangent. That is your argument pattern. Your tactics are tiresome and child like. I am so tired of you hijacking threads with your senseless babble. I have little doubt that you are MK under a different screen name.

Again, I was on the Lair and I remember MK. Not MK but you're trying.
I don't even understand how you think I'm going to be "proven wrong"....if we win 10-11 games? yes, then I'll be wrong and thrilled that I'm wrong. if I'm not happy with 9 wins? I won't be happy with it but they'll meet my expectation--I won't call it a "disappointing season" like 2017 was.
What's going to likely happen is that I'll be critical of a coach or player and then you'll claim that's me being proven wrong since I thought we'd only win 9...that's the nonsense around this board right now

 

[AWS1022]

Again, I was on the Lair and I remember MK. Not MK but you're trying.
I don't even understand how you think I'm going to be "proven wrong"....if we win 10-11 games? yes, then I'll be wrong and thrilled that I'm wrong. if I'm not happy with 9 wins? I won't be happy with it but they'll meet my expectation--I won't call it a "disappointing season" like 2017 was.
What's going to likely happen is that I'll be critical of a coach or player and then you'll claim that's me being proven wrong since I thought we'd only win 9...that's the nonsense around this board right now

You had us finishing third last year prior to the season, then we win 11 games and you call it disappointing.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

You had us finishing third last year prior to the season, then we win 11 games and you call it disappointing.

waiting for the link
and last year was disappointing--I have no idea how, with that team, and the way we lost both games you or anyone else wasn't disappointed.

 

[step.eng69]

Deion Sanders was so surprised by how fast this white guy was that he felt compelled to hug him
By
Christopher Powers

March 6, 2018
At long last, the NFL Combine finally ended on Monday, and, as is tradition, nothing really happened. If you needed the Combine to realize Saquon Barkley was good because he jumped really high in the jumping-high drill, and he ran really fast in the running-fast drill, and not because he rushed for nearly 4,000 yards and scored 51 total TDs in three years at Penn State, all while literally jumping over humans in the process, then I don't know what to tell ya.

Yet we all still watch, even on day three and four, when defensive lineman stumble their way through the 40-yard dash in incredibly-NSFW fashion. Those who toughed it out until day four of 2018 were treated to the second-best moment of the week -- the first of course being anything Shaquem Griffin did -- when Penn State defensive back Troy Apke stepped in for his 40-yard dash while Deion Sanders was on the mic on the field for NFL Network. You see, Apke is a white guy, and to be fair, speed is not the first thing associated with the majority of caucasians in the NFL. Sure, there are the Danny Woodheads and the Chris Hogans and the Blake Bortles' of the world, but they're few and far between. So when Apke zoomed across the 40-yard line in 4.35 seconds, Primetime was gobsmacked, so much so that he felt compelled to hug him:


From here on out, any fast white guy must be described as being able to "RUN run." Deion is too funny, and you have to love Mike Mayock, who sucks, saying "why are you surprised Deion?" Um, did you not just see that white dude go full Usain Bolt? Incredible.

 

[AWS1022]

waiting for the link
and last year was disappointing--I have no idea how, with that team, and the way we lost both games you or anyone else wasn't disappointed.

Can’t link it because I’m on my phone, but go back and look at the thread from Jan. 30, 2017 entitled “Isn’t it exciting knowing we will be a legitimate top 5-10 team next season again?” You stated we might have a great season based on our schedule but you see us finishing second or third in the Big East. Not quite the national championship expectations you’re talking about now. Which is exactly my point about you...you downgrade us prior to the season, then downgrade what is accomplished based on the strength of schedule. Typical trolling, but keep denying it. *mic drop*