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B12 to B16.

Utah, TCU, OK St, Baylor, Cincy - not a bad football conference at all. They are a great bball conference. The Big 12 commissioner needs to be commended for masterfully navigating conference realignment. I think this whole thing from the triumphs of the big 10 and big 12 to the decade long failures of the pac 12 ends up in a business textbook in the future.
 
Utah, TCU, OK St, Baylor, Cincy - not a bad football conference at all. They are a great bball conference. The Big 12 commissioner needs to be commended for masterfully navigating conference realignment. I think this whole thing from the triumphs of the big 10 and big 12 to the decade long failures of the pac 12 ends up in a business textbook in the future.
He’s just picking up the leftovers from the PAC12. What’s he done? ACC wasn’t picking the leftovers up. He lost his two marquee brands. He needs to persuade A&M and Mizzou to return. That would be huge.
 
what he did was beat the pac 12 to the last available linear tv package available..many laughed when he did, but it effectively cut the pac 12 out from anything other than streaming
 
He’s just picking up the leftovers from the PAC12. What’s he done? ACC wasn’t picking the leftovers up. He lost his two marquee brands. He needs to persuade A&M and Mizzou to return. That would be huge.
He helped end the Pac XII and put them ahead of the ACC. Not sure how we're being critical. They weren't stealing teams from the SEC or Big Ten. You even mentioning Mizzou and A&M is absurd. They'll help raid the ACC soon
 
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what he did was beat the pac 12 to the last available linear tv package available..many laughed when he did, but it effectively cut the pac 12 out from anything other than streaming

This. The Big 12 was left for dead after their two big brands left and many expected them to sooner or later lose their P5 status but he was brilliant in getting a solid core of "next best" teams to make the conference large enough to survive a raid, then cutting off the PAC-12 to a good linear TV deal with good exposure. That enabled the Big 12 to be the aggressor in the western half of the country and destroy the Pac-12. The Big Ten wouldn't have been able to get Washington/Oregon at a big discount - and this wouldn't have invited them - without the Big 12 destabilizing the conference which reached a crescendo with getting Colorado to jump.

The PAC-12 f'ed up royally when it didn't add Oklahoma and Texas and other Big 12 teams back in the day when they had the chance. Among many missteps (their handling of the Pac-12 Network is textbook idiocy.)

And the PAC-12 TV deal process the last year has been unbelievably incompetent.
 
Gotta see what happens to the Beavers, W-State, Cal & the Tree.
Can you imagine how extremely worried they are right now?
Can they join the ACC? @ least they be OK until '36.
 
Gotta see what happens to the Beavers, W-State, Cal & the Tree.
Can you imagine how extremely worried they are right now?
Can they join the ACC? @ least they be OK until '36.

Who knew the Mountain West Conference would outlast the PAC 12?
 
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They will probably merge.
It actually would make sense for the MWC to dissolve and the PAC-whatever to absorb all of them. The PAC has a set spot in the CFP (and money that entails) for now and a bunch of NCAA basketball credits for revenue.

The downside though is the TV deal so I wonder if they can talk to the MWC partners and port it over.
 
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