Specious comparisons and arguments, rolled out on queue by PSU's administration and its apologists. It expects the legislature to write large checks with little or no control over how the money is spent. PSU is not a state school. It's essentially a subsidized private school. There is a substantial difference. Past discussions to bring it into line with how other state universities were/are financially governed went nowhere.
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Specious comparisons and arguments, rolled out on queue by PSU's administration and its apologists. It expects the legislature to write large checks with little or no control over how the money is spent. PSU is not a state school. It's essentially a subsidized private school. There is a substantial difference. Past discussions to bring it into line with how other state universities were/are financially governed went nowhere.
One of Palmer's big donors passed away due to CV
https://news.psu.edu/story/617055/2...state-and-palmer-museum-mourn-death-donor-and
https://news.psu.edu/story/617055/2...state-and-palmer-museum-mourn-death-donor-and
Barron of bad news will be announcing huge adjustments very soon. Unbelievable these times we live in. The country needs to roll out a Debt Jubilee to save it. Pretty simple.
Is the Paterno statue one of the items waiting to be displayed?
"The museum won't use any tuition revenue or general funds, but it will raid the AD to help pay for it"
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Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday...
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CJF gone in 3....2....1."The museum won't use any tuition revenue or general funds, but it will raid the AD to help pay for it"
Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday...
“I think the concept is a great one,” committee member Anthony Lubrano said Thursday.
@lubrano Please explain.
@lubrano Please explain.
"The museum won't use any tuition revenue or general funds, but it will raid the AD to help pay for it"
Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday...
“The vote was split, which some concerned about cost and wisdom of debt for a museum during a pandemic.”
These folks need to get on board. barren laughs at debt.
Why didn’t you paste the rest of it?
““I think the concept is a great one,” committee member Anthony Lubrano said Thursday. “However, I have some real concern about the timing of this project.”
He questioned whether the Big Ten revenue can be counted upon.”
I agree that it’s a great concept. However, it costs too much and the timing is not at all good.
In response, just yesterday someone asked me if I know anything about welding. And I had to reply that since my undergraduate degree was from PSU that course wasn’t offered. He seemed dismayed by my incompetence.That's because in PA, we dish out most of our education money for K-12. PA averages $16,400 per student:
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Find out how much the U.S. spends on public education and how the costs break down per student, by state and by level of government.educationdata.org
Perhaps with the new museum we will have an “arc welding” wing, and that educational shortcoming will be rectified.
However I do agree with you that the Legislature has dropped the ball on this one. Sadly they have been forced to allocate funds for several other more worthy causes. Now if you allow me a few months to think, I’m positive I may be able to provide some.
Well, obviously I don't think it's a great concept. In fact I think it's a total failure, now and in the future. All efforts/resources need to be deployed elsewhere.
Yeah, put it out there where nobody goes. Game. Changer.
Oh, and about that double dip into athletic revenues for this and the football facilities upgrades.
Oh, and about that double dip into athletic revenues for this and the football facilities upgrades.
It's not the AD's money no matter what that blithering idiot Brandon Short says. And it's not as if Ms. Excellence doesn't spend it on stupid shit.
I've previously suggested what's going on here, but I'd like to see if the article confirms it.
Where is Barry Fenchak when you need him?
"The museum won't use any tuition revenue or general funds, but it will raid the AD to help pay for it"
Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday...
Wait, I was told the football facilities upgrades were actually investments that returned even more money back to the general funds. Enron would be proud with this type of accounting.
A new museum is a nice to have and was very questionable spending even before Covid. Now it is almost criminal to move forward and spend money on it.
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Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
BILL SCHACKNER
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
bschackner@post-gazette.com
MAY 6, 2021
10:31 AM
This story will be updated.
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday on the effort to greatly enhance what officials are calling the largest such museum between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
The Committee on Finance, Business and Capital Planning reviewed the project that would more than double the available exhibition space and relocate museum from its current location on Curtis Road in State College to the Penn State Arboretum at University Park. The vote was split, which some concerned about cost and wisdom of debt for a museum during a pandemic.
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The project is projected to cost upward of $85 million. It also would involve new classrooms and meeting spaces and enable the state’s flagship public university to accommodate more of the museum’s massive collection.
The plans also have been undergoing local review by municipalities in and around State College.
Penn State has raised almost $20 million and anticipates debt no greater than $62 million, which it says would not involve tuition revenue or general funds but would instead be subsidized by sources, including Big Ten Conference media revenues.
Nevertheless, pursuing a museum project during the pandemic has raised concern in some Penn State circles about the wisdom of incurring debt in what has been a turbulent time for universities, including Penn State.
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“I think the concept is a great one,” committee member Anthony Lubrano said Thursday. “However, I have some real concern about the timing of this project.”
He questioned whether the Big Ten revenue can be counted upon.
Officials, including Penn State President Eric Barron, have cited the importance of the project to communities across Central Pennsylvania and beyond, with its free admission making the arts more accessible to everyone from schoolchildren to older adults.
“Situating the Palmer Museum of Art within the Arboretum will create a cultural resource unlike any other in our region, connecting art, nature and science in exciting new ways," Mr. Barron said in the project's early stage. "The complex will further our strategic goals of advancing the arts and humanities and — because cultural opportunities also create economic opportunities — of driving economic development."
The museum bears the name of the late James and Barbara Palmer. Mr. Palmer was the CEO of what is now Comcast, and his wife was a member of the board.
Bill Schackner: bschackner@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1977 and on Twitter: @Bschackner.
First Published May 6, 2021, 10:31am
Not for me and I don't subscribe. 🤷♂️
Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
BILL SCHACKNER
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
bschackner@post-gazette.com
MAY 6, 2021
10:31 AM
This story will be updated.
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday on the effort to greatly enhance what officials are calling the largest such museum between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
The Committee on Finance, Business and Capital Planning reviewed the project that would more than double the available exhibition space and relocate museum from its current location on Curtis Road in State College to the Penn State Arboretum at University Park. The vote was split, which some concerned about cost and wisdom of debt for a museum during a pandemic.
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The project is projected to cost upward of $85 million. It also would involve new classrooms and meeting spaces and enable the state’s flagship public university to accommodate more of the museum’s massive collection.
The plans also have been undergoing local review by municipalities in and around State College.
Penn State has raised almost $20 million and anticipates debt no greater than $62 million, which it says would not involve tuition revenue or general funds but would instead be subsidized by sources, including Big Ten Conference media revenues.
Nevertheless, pursuing a museum project during the pandemic has raised concern in some Penn State circles about the wisdom of incurring debt in what has been a turbulent time for universities, including Penn State.
ADVERTISEMENT
“I think the concept is a great one,” committee member Anthony Lubrano said Thursday. “However, I have some real concern about the timing of this project.”
He questioned whether the Big Ten revenue can be counted upon.
Officials, including Penn State President Eric Barron, have cited the importance of the project to communities across Central Pennsylvania and beyond, with its free admission making the arts more accessible to everyone from schoolchildren to older adults.
“Situating the Palmer Museum of Art within the Arboretum will create a cultural resource unlike any other in our region, connecting art, nature and science in exciting new ways," Mr. Barron said in the project's early stage. "The complex will further our strategic goals of advancing the arts and humanities and — because cultural opportunities also create economic opportunities — of driving economic development."
The museum bears the name of the late James and Barbara Palmer. Mr. Palmer was the CEO of what is now Comcast, and his wife was a member of the board.
Bill Schackner: bschackner@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1977 and on Twitter: @Bschackner.
First Published May 6, 2021, 10:31am
Please take this opportunity to give early, often, and in large sums.
Thanks. Nothing new there. More irresponsible spending. Ultimately there will a reckoning and it will manifest itself as a new line on semester tuition bills.Not for me and I don't subscribe. 🤷♂️
Penn State trustees endorse $85 million Palmer Museum of Art expansion
BILL SCHACKNER
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
bschackner@post-gazette.com
MAY 6, 2021
10:31 AM
This story will be updated.
A committee of Penn State University trustees Thursday endorsed a new and expanded Palmer Museum of Art, setting up a final vote by the full board Friday on the effort to greatly enhance what officials are calling the largest such museum between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
The Committee on Finance, Business and Capital Planning reviewed the project that would more than double the available exhibition space and relocate museum from its current location on Curtis Road in State College to the Penn State Arboretum at University Park. The vote was split, which some concerned about cost and wisdom of debt for a museum during a pandemic.
ADVERTISEMENT
The project is projected to cost upward of $85 million. It also would involve new classrooms and meeting spaces and enable the state’s flagship public university to accommodate more of the museum’s massive collection.
The plans also have been undergoing local review by municipalities in and around State College.
Penn State has raised almost $20 million and anticipates debt no greater than $62 million, which it says would not involve tuition revenue or general funds but would instead be subsidized by sources, including Big Ten Conference media revenues.
Nevertheless, pursuing a museum project during the pandemic has raised concern in some Penn State circles about the wisdom of incurring debt in what has been a turbulent time for universities, including Penn State.
ADVERTISEMENT
“I think the concept is a great one,” committee member Anthony Lubrano said Thursday. “However, I have some real concern about the timing of this project.”
He questioned whether the Big Ten revenue can be counted upon.
Officials, including Penn State President Eric Barron, have cited the importance of the project to communities across Central Pennsylvania and beyond, with its free admission making the arts more accessible to everyone from schoolchildren to older adults.
“Situating the Palmer Museum of Art within the Arboretum will create a cultural resource unlike any other in our region, connecting art, nature and science in exciting new ways," Mr. Barron said in the project's early stage. "The complex will further our strategic goals of advancing the arts and humanities and — because cultural opportunities also create economic opportunities — of driving economic development."
The museum bears the name of the late James and Barbara Palmer. Mr. Palmer was the CEO of what is now Comcast, and his wife was a member of the board.
Bill Schackner: bschackner@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1977 and on Twitter: @Bschackner.
First Published May 6, 2021, 10:31am
Tuition? No way. Fees on the other hand are completely different. Completely different.
Well there’s your problem, trying to understand what I’m saying. If I don’t understand what I’m saying how on Earth are you supposed to make any logical sense out of my comments.
1. I graduated over 50 years ago. I don’t believe a 40 hour welding course was offered back then as part of any curriculum I know of, but then again I’m not a university course historian. So I may be wrong. I do know that guy in “Animal House” was a pretty good welder so perhaps Faber College offered the course. See this is exactly the type of rambling that I’m referring to.
2. As a taxpayer I’m often annoyed at how all Legislatures Federal, State and Local spend money. And I don’t have even any fervent political axes to grind. Furthermore, my psychiatrist feels that I should be more tolerant of others viewpoints, so if you’re happy 😃 I’m happy 😃. I trust this clarifies matters.
They run PSU like the Federal Government - like there is a never ending stream of money that will never go away and debt is always a good thing. How about making sure the kids get back into the classrooms full time ASAP or is that kind of thing not a priority for Pennsylvanias "Flagship" University.
All I can say is I wished you were with me yesterday. You could have fixed that guy’s trailer hitch.
Did he ever explain how the full $81 million price tag is being paid for? $17 million from gifts and a portion of $4 million from B10 media. Where is the other $60 million coming from? He kept stressing that none of the funds are being taken from education, okay where are they coming from?
He also never addressed if those other higher priority capital projects are happening or not. He clearly is an art fan/elitist and this is a pet project of his. Meanwhile he probably squirms when the football program wants $5 million to upgrade facilities yet the football program is the face of the university whether he likes it or not. It also infuses a ton of money into the local economy and businesses on campus.
He also never addressed if those other higher priority capital projects are happening or not. He clearly is an art fan/elitist and this is a pet project of his. Meanwhile he probably squirms when the football program wants $5 million to upgrade facilities yet the football program is the face of the university whether he likes it or not. It also infuses a ton of money into the local economy and businesses on campus.
Why would el Presidente ever worry where the $60 million is coming from. Deep thinkers always leave the details for the little people.
Ms. Excellence is gettin' her swimmin' hole. The veil between the University and ICA has been shredded. When ICA can no longer pay for itself the money will come from the University's General Fund. That will happen before we know it.
So David Gray is replaced by a bigger nimrod. Someone should ask how much his consulting contract with PSU is costing.
Probably because the school buses have to park off campus and the poor kids have to walk a couple of blocks.
Wow. That's awesome. I am going to have to use this at work and I can't wait for a good oppty to do so. Thanks!
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