If you were an NFL owner, would you hire a HC that has been fired after just two years on his first (NFL HC) job? I have little doubt that OB could find a job as an assistant somewhere. But if Kevin Plank is underwriting the football payroll at Maryland, there is no NFL AC job that's going to pay what that HC gig will.
BOB to Maryland?
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If you were an NFL owner, would you hire a HC that has been fired after just two years on his first (NFL HC) job? I have little doubt that OB could find a job as an assistant somewhere. But if Kevin Plank is underwriting the football payroll at Maryland, there is no NFL AC job that's going to pay what that HC gig will.
Can I get a refresher on why BOB is hated here? I thought he was really stupid to leave, no doubt.
But that's his choice and now he's probably regretting it.
But that's his choice and now he's probably regretting it.
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Whined to David Jones about 'Paterno People' and left the program high and dry after trying to bail his first year. Don't hate him per se, but he's a chode.
Yeah, forgot about that.
I don't think he was anti-Joe, but he's pretty selfish if he thinks that long time PSU fans were going to drop Joe Paterno from their thoughts and start thinking about O'Brien right away.
I don't think he was anti-Joe, but he's pretty selfish if he thinks that long time PSU fans were going to drop Joe Paterno from their thoughts and start thinking about O'Brien right away.
Why does anyone think this would be a good recruiting battle? IMO Great QB coach, great use of TE's, erratic game day coach, very average recruiter [not only didn't like it but seemed to recruit in an imbalanced manner].
Right to work? The man has made enough money at Penn State and Houston to retire,live the life of luxury and never work again or do whatever he wants!
O'Brien will be coaching the Texans next year. The GM may be looking for a job. The Texans need a franchise QB--those are hard to find--and they need Clowney to be healthy.
In fairness Jones egged him on and tried to prod him into saying it, then printed it. I have my own opinion about who the db was in that situation.
If he brings Butler back to coach an opposing defense, we should look forward to it.
If he has to go back to a college team, I know where there might be an OC opening,
Chode, that's awesome - clearly from my generation because I haven't heard that term used in decades. Let me translate for all the more recent generations who don't know what it means - small, soft Richard.
This thread makes me so mad I could punch my fist through my car windshield right now.
Handcuffed? He knew what he was getting into. I don't buy it. He wanted to coach in the NFL - the highest level......
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Well, he would have left after the first year if he could have - thank goodness for his buyout or we would have really been up the creek so to speak. While neither of his seasons were spectacular (BS COY awards notwithstanding), it did show that there was a future for the program for the right guy. Thankfully, the wrong guy left so we could get him.
I think you need to look at it from his perspective. He took the job and was assured we wouldn't be penalized...and then we were. He then deals with a fan base that is splintered and irritate. It's his job to shield the TEAM from all of these outside distractions and try to win. All the while being compared to a legend, and being baited by the media at every turn. In your mind, you realize you are being asked to do an impossible task by people you really have no type of connection to other than a contract. Considering all of this, I give the guy a pass. I am even amazed at the composure he maintained. You don't have to love B'OB, but you do owe him a thank you.
Honestly, with the buyout that Houston had to put up, I'm not even sure that O'Brien's employment was a net cost for PSU.
Regarding the issue of being reassured that PSU would not be sanctioned that was pretty much what most observers believed at the time. No one counted on the hubris of Emmert.
Agreed, I'm not saying he was intentionally mislead. My point is he took over under extraordinary circumstances and held things together. Granted it was his ticket to the NFL. We used him and he used us. It was a mutually beneficial arrangement. It's hard for me to harbor ill will towards him. He came in and did what he was paid to do. He left as everyone knew he would. I just don't get what anyone is upset about.
Forget Franklin and BOB/FLO.
I want Harbaugh! Not Jim....John! (As soon as he's fired by the Ravens)
Think about it..Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh. This is the kind of sensationalism this penalized program deserves.
I want Harbaugh! Not Jim....John! (As soon as he's fired by the Ravens)
Think about it..Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh. This is the kind of sensationalism this penalized program deserves.
He did tell the kids who came in 2014 that he would be there until the sanctions passed. That is a fact. I also believe that something happened internally (Joyner?) that was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. So, people should be upset that he didn't tell 17-18 year olds the truth. But, given some of the things we have heard about Joyner and his methods, I might have forgotten my principles, too.
O. T.--I always laughed when Joyner would say that he stepped into a war zone when he became A. D. He wanted everyone to think he was this great stabilizing factor. He failed to mention or acknowledge that he had something to do with creating that "war zone."
Too funny, and to think he did all this effectively for free.....blah, blah, blah. Some of you people are priceless.
I'm pretty sure he did everything he was paid to do. So why the animosity. As I stated we used him...he used us.
While your giving him a pass,dont forget the millions of dollars he got paid to deal with all you mention!
We "used him" by giving a job and title that he never held before PSU? You have a rather interesting and absurd definition of "used him".
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Nope - he's a putz. He could have left without pissing on our fan base - but didn't. Glad he's being exposed in the NFL.
In our society today people are more than willing to ass kiss sports figures. This mentality that we owe a debt of gratitude to a coach, players, etc. is such BS. What did any of them do for you personally while earning millions upon millions of dollars for themselves? And what have 99% of them done to improve society in general? The answer to both is nothing. People need to get their priorities in order.
Penn State's ranking in total defense in 2013 (Butler's year as DC) = 24.
http://espn.go.com/college-football...al/position/defense/sort/totalYards/year/2013
Penn State's ranking in total defense in 2011 (Paterno/Bradley's last year) = 22.
http://espn.go.com/college-football...al/position/defense/sort/totalYards/year/2011
