I guess the fact that gun murderers get life in prison for just 3 seconds of activity is inherently unfair by that logic. His dad is totally ridiculous on this.His dad said that he is being penalized for just 20 minutes of activity.
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I guess the fact that gun murderers get life in prison for just 3 seconds of activity is inherently unfair by that logic. His dad is totally ridiculous on this.His dad said that he is being penalized for just 20 minutes of activity.
Another example that comes to mind....one example, but illustrative....
We took one of our daughter's boyfriends with us to another daughter's soccer game. We only had a couple of folding chairs with us, not enough for everyone. The boyfriend promptly sat in the chair, leaving my daughter to sit on the ground. And he stayed there. Saw nothing unusual about it.
Again, just one example. But it is the mindset that I saw time and time again.
Another example that comes to mind....one example, but illustrative....
We took one of our daughter's boyfriends with us to another daughter's soccer game. We only had a couple of folding chairs with us, not enough for everyone. The boyfriend promptly sat in the chair, leaving my daughter to sit on the ground. And he stayed there. Saw nothing unusual about it.
Again, just one example. But it is the mindset that I saw time and time again.
This is just a thought with no intent to change the subject of this thread, but where are the parents? Oh, I know, out making enough money to get that second or third Beamer. My opinion is that parents have dropped the ball in our times. To them, making money trumps parenting.I am amazed with what my daughters tell me and am glad they are that open about today's world. I asked the high school one the other day how her boyfriend was(had been dating a few weeks) ... her answer was, we broke up... I said oh I am sorry... she said don't be, with what he wanted from me sexually I told him no way and he said he was moving on since there were plenty of other girls who would give him sex..... Was so proud of her but it's what our kids face daily. So much pressure to have sex/ do drugs etc... It's everywhere, kids in middle schools having sex party's after school at kid's houses whose parents work etc. These are in up scale neighborhoods and suburbs. It's a whole new world out there.
I am amazed with what my daughters tell me and am glad they are that open about today's world. I asked the high school one the other day how her boyfriend was(had been dating a few weeks) ... her answer was, we broke up... I said oh I am sorry... she said don't be, with what he wanted from me sexually I told him no way and he said he was moving on since there were plenty of other girls who would give him sex..... Was so proud of her but it's what our kids face daily. So much pressure to have sex/ do drugs etc... It's everywhere, kids in middle schools having sex party's after school at kid's houses whose parents work etc. These are in up scale neighborhoods and suburbs. It's a whole new world out there.
glad that never went on in the late 60's-70's when I was growing up.....wait...I am amazed with what my daughters tell me and am glad they are that open about today's world. I asked the high school one the other day how her boyfriend was(had been dating a few weeks) ... her answer was, we broke up... I said oh I am sorry... she said don't be, with what he wanted from me sexually I told him no way and he said he was moving on since there were plenty of other girls who would give him sex..... Was so proud of her but it's what our kids face daily. So much pressure to have sex/ do drugs etc... It's everywhere, kids in middle schools having sex party's after school at kid's houses whose parents work etc. These are in up scale neighborhoods and suburbs. It's a whole new world out there.
Are you referring to the "hook up" culture that seems to be everywhere?I worked on a book recently, titled Girls and Sex. It is a must for parents with daughters, and hell, even sons.
On one hand, teen pregnancies are down and there is even evidence that teens have less sex now than say in the 80s. However, it is wholly unfulfilling and surface, which is unhealthy.
More specifically, he grew up in Oakwood, Ohio: which is basically Dayton's richest and most elite suburb.
Kid was very very privileged growing up. "Drinking and doing drugs" is by no means all he had available to him.
glad that never went on in the late 60's-70's when I was growing up.....wait...
It's happened in all eras of history, but was it as pervasive? Look, pornography is everywhere. Kids have access to it. They "grow up" thinking that dropping their drawers and screwing is normal, even if they've just met. Yes, there are exceptions, but I think this kind of behavior is more pervasive today and accepted, though it can be totally debilitating long term for young people.glad that never went on in the late 60's-70's when I was growing up.....wait...
Another example that comes to mind....one example, but illustrative....
We took one of our daughter's boyfriends with us to another daughter's soccer game. We only had a couple of folding chairs with us, not enough for everyone. The boyfriend promptly sat in the chair, leaving my daughter to sit on the ground. And he stayed there. Saw nothing unusual about it.
Again, just one example. But it is the mindset that I saw time and time again.
100% concur that Brock Turner's actions should not be blamed on Ohio.
On the flip side, porngate, Kathleen Kane, and corruption in PA also had no bearing on his actions, so I fail to see how that statement by you has any relevance in the discussion.
Exactly. This stuff is totally out of hand and suffocating our young people, in many cases wrecking their lives. Millions of people have pontificated about the horrors of Sandusky, and rightly so, yet we allow 12 and 13 year olds to have sex. Hell, we give them the condoms.wow ... you attended sex party's in 6th grade and had sex with multiple partners in one afternoon? Changed my whole opinion of you...
I remember my mom, who went to school in the 30's saying,' what you think you're generation invented sex'.wow ... you attended sex party's in 6th grade and had sex with multiple partners in one afternoon? Changed my whole opinion of you...
I remember my mom, who went to school in the 30's saying,' what you think you're generation invented sex'.
Another example that comes to mind....one example, but illustrative....
We took one of our daughter's boyfriends with us to another daughter's soccer game. We only had a couple of folding chairs with us, not enough for everyone. The boyfriend promptly sat in the chair, leaving my daughter to sit on the ground. And he stayed there. Saw nothing unusual about it.
Again, just one example. But it is the mindset that I saw time and time again.
Dad says this was misconstrued and he did not intend it sound sexual (getting some action). ok, i can almost buy that.Twenty minutes of "action," was the actual word used.
My mom used to say that too.I remember my mom, who went to school in the 30's saying,' what you think you're generation invented sex'.
This is just a thought with no intent to change the subject of this thread, but where are the parents? Oh, I know, out making enough money to get that second or third Beamer. My opinion is that parents have dropped the ball in our times. To them, making money trumps parenting.
I'm not sure when you were raised but I know that when I was a kid, my parents and all my friends' parents were way less involved in their kids' lives than the parents I've seen nowadays and the level of involvement I have with my kids. We were on our own and fended for ourselves way more than my kids and their friends. I've coached a ton of baseball and basketball over the years and parents are even at the practices and almost never miss games. When I was a kid parents would have never shown up to a practice and most only came to games if they didn't have something in their own lives to do. There are way more helicopter parents nowadays than when I was a kid, so I don't think lack of parental involvement can be blamed.
Even if one accepts what you are saying, and I do to an extent, but not totally, one would have to say that parents are not doing a very good job teaching their kids how to behave as responsible people. And they don't behave responsibly, because they aren't expected to do so or taught to do so.I'm not sure when you were raised but I know that when I was a kid, my parents and all my friends' parents were way less involved in their kids' lives than the parents I've seen nowadays and the level of involvement I have with my kids. We were on our own and fended for ourselves way more than my kids and their friends. I've coached a ton of baseball and basketball over the years and parents are even at the practices and almost never miss games. When I was a kid parents would have never shown up to a practice and most only came to games if they didn't have something in their own lives to do. There are way more helicopter parents nowadays than when I was a kid, so I don't think lack of parental involvement can be blamed.
Yes. I was just telling my wife the other day how parents concern themselves with getting their kids into the "right" preschool so that they can get to Harvard or Yale one day. Yet, sex parties at 14 years old are ok with some. It's an absurdity.Sadly, the type of helicoptering you describe here would be more accurately described as adults trying to vicariously relive their youths, imo. So, parenting is probably the problem.
Even if one accepts what you are saying, and I do to an extent, but not totally, one would have to say that parents are not doing a very good job teaching their kids how to behave as responsible people. And they don't behave responsibly, because they aren't expected to do so or taught to do so.
I'm going to piss off the Lax Mafia here, but rich white lacrosse bros are about the douchiest athlete subset goingCorrect about being a Stanford alum. He did play LAX at Stanford, as well. (He may have been captain -- I'm not certain of that.) Just a clarification that men's LAX is a club sport at Stanford.
Sadly, the type of helicoptering you describe here would be more accurately described as adults trying to vicariously relive their youths, imo. So, parenting is probably the problem.
I worked on a book recently, titled Girls and Sex. It is a must for parents with daughters, and hell, even sons.
On one hand, teen pregnancies are down and there is even evidence that teens have less sex now than say in the 80s. However, it is wholly unfulfilling and surface, which is unhealthy.
In Russia...there is a pecking order that is unwritten.
If you don't give up your chair to someone higher in the pecking order, they come over and tap their toe on the leg of your chair. I was in an airport lounge that was completely empty when I got there. Talking with my wife and another couple, I didn't notice the place filled up and an elderly woman was standing behind my chair with her 40-something son. I felt this tapping...what the heck??? I turned around and saw them. I immediately got up and, mumbling in english, offered her the chair. The man thanked me "Spasiba!" and she sat. All good!
- the infirm
- the elderly
- women
- men
But, to your story, I was born and raised several decades ago and would never think of not offering my seat or opening a door. However, I HAVE been ripped by women (I didn't even know) for opening a door for her. So its a little confusing. Heck gals can now use the men's restroom and visa versa.
are women equal or are they not? Its a little confusing these days.
I'm going to piss off the Lax Mafia here, but rich white lacrosse bros are about the douchiest athlete subset going
Please tell me that this kid wasn't given the obvious middle nameBrickman House, Jr., Utica
I'm going to piss off the Lax Mafia here, but rich white lacrosse bros are about the douchiest athlete subset going
Please tell me that this kid wasn't given the obvious middle name
Booooo! Yup, Springfield dudes are regular dudes. I think Tom Kiefer of Cinderella fame went there. Haven has a real mix of people - wealthier people from Swarthmore and Rose Valley, solidly middle class from most of Wallingford, and working class from South Media and Garden City.not that long ago, that would be a pretty accurate description of those playing boy's/men's LAX. with the exception of pockets in Long Island, some other areas in NY, and a few other pockets across the country, it was pretty much a sport only played at prep schools in high school. That started to change in the 80s, and now it's the fastest growing sport in the country, in terms of participation, and has become very common at public schools in a lot of states.
if I recall correctly, you are a Haven grad. fwiw, Haven's boy LAX team were defeated on Tuesday in the PIAA boy's LAX semis by Springfield (Delco) -- not a team/school that you would define as a collection of rich white guys.
His dad said that he is being penalized for just 20 minutes of activity.
Booooo! Yup, Springfield dudes are regular dudes. I think Tom Kiefer of Cinderella fame went there. Haven has a real mix of people - wealthier people from Swarthmore and Rose Valley, solidly middle class from most of Wallingford, and working class from South Media and Garden City.
Yeah, I know the sport is growing like a weed, but I did emphasize that my target was rich lax dudes, but you could probably generalize to rich, entitled kids doing anything. Your classic Episcopal, Haverford School, Landon (in DC), etc popped collar tool.
Is there a way for the prosecution to appeal the sentence? I thought they could because I think they did that here in Philly with Vincent Fumo when his pals on the bench pretty much gave him a pass.The dad needs an ass kickin as much as the kid.
Yeah, I didn't think you'd be too pleased with the outcome of the semi match.
Episcopal, Haveford, etc. do have a number of kids that fit the profile you described. At the same time, they are getting more and more aggressive about recruiting kids that don't fit that profile, but who are great LAX players (or other sports athletes). These kids are the stars of their MS teams, and at some point during their 8th grade year they seem to be approached by the prep schools, offered great packages, and then they start telling their friends they won't be joining them in HS. It drives the public HS coaches in the area crazy.